It's a Wonderful Life 4K UHD (1946)

[gates70]

Originally Posted by Tuc0

I am guessing also that it demands more since it helped when I took one other cable off. I read somewhere that it does not matter if the sources they are connected to are on ot off, they still take space so I am guessing the all round bandwith source for all three cables comes from the same place and is divided to the four ports and since three are connected and one feeds on huge amounts of data, there simply was not enough there to pass the demanding DV correctly through.

Someone smarter with these than me probably knows better though. I have not had any hdmi issues prior so I am new ro these problems

Buy yourself Fiber Optic HDMI cables and be done with it. You won't have any more bandwidth issues.

[Dubstar]

I was beginning to watch this last night and I was noticing that the audio was out of sync with the picture at the very beginning and then when I toggled between the English descriptive track and back to the English mono track it somehow fixed itself - what's up with that? is that a faulty disc pressing or was the receiver doing something wonky?

[MonolithicErik]

I had the same audio sync issue when I watched it and a toggling through the languages fixed it. Weird right?

[Tuc0]

Originally Posted by gates70

Buy yourself Fiber Optic HDMI cables and be done with it. You won't have any more bandwidth issues.

Yeah they are just so darn expensive.
Well the 18gb certified cable from amazon works like a charm with all the others plugged in as well.

[Brian81]

I feel like I'm the only person who has never had to do the HDMI cable changes, outside of annoyance with connectors that get finicky. I've recently been swapping out of cables from 2005, not because of quality but rather because I have to reach behind the rack and wiggle them because they lose connection.

[Geoff D]

Same. I've got some HDMI cables that are literally 10 years old which have zero problems squirting 4K60 @ 12-bit 4:2:2 down the pipe. And the one I use with my current Panasonic UB820 player is the no-brand one that came with the UB900.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Poya

^ Agreed. The sheer entitlement of some.

It's entitlement to want to wait for a deal?

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

The British release has the remastered HD Blu-ray. Stated clearly on the back. The US getting saddled with the colourized version is odd. No enthusiast really wants it.

Maybe Ted Turner got Paramount locked into some stupid home video stipulation every release in the US has to have it.

I'm an enthusiast and still enjoy having the colorized version, though it looks a lot worse now compared to the 4k, but that's not due to the colorization, it's due to the old master they used for the colorization.

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

They could have included both discs like 95% of other 4K UHD releases for those of us that are future proofing. They could’ve also included the colorized version as a third disc if they wanted it there so badly. Nobody was asking for it in the first place, especially not the hardcore cinephiles that are getting this 73 year old black-and-white film on 4K UHD.

Not gonna lie, colorized films can be fun to watch as curiosities, but I can’t picture sitting through an entire film like that (though I remember watching bad colorized versions of Scrooge (1951) and The Most Dangerous Game (1934) in school). As far as the technology has come, it still looks very uncanny-valley.

The colorization of this film is quite old. New colorization techniques look quite stunning when using a newly-remastered source combined with new colorization methods. The original Lost in Space unaired pilot was released colorized as an extra with the new Series blu-ray, and it looks incredible.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Vilya

If the 4K edition offers no benefit over the blu-ray, why would you "truly recommend" that people pay twice as much to get it? The blu-ray is currently selling for $9.81 and the 4K edition is selling for $19.96; why exactly are you recommending the more expensive purchase?

Your comment makes no sense, but I have come to expect that from you the same as with your doppleganger.

On sale or second hand. It's obvious.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

On sale or second hand. It's obvious.

It is obvious. It is obvious that you still make no sense.

If the 4k edition offers no improvements over the blu-ray edition, there is no reason to buy it, on sale or even second hand. It would instead make sense to buy the blu-ray edition on sale or second hand.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Vilya

It is obvious. It is obvious that you still make no sense.

If the 4k edition offers no improvements over the blu-ray edition, there is no reason to buy it, on sale or even second hand. It would instead make sense to buy the blu-ray edition on sale or second hand.

The reason would be to be able to use our 4K setup more often and actively support the 4K disc industry. Other classics were released in 4K HDR like Schindler's List where the uptick in details is quiet obvious as well as shadow layers depth. So why not encourage people to spend the extra bucks on this?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

The reason would be to be able to use our 4K setup more often and actively support the 4K disc industry. Other classics were released in 4K HDR like Schindler's List where the uptick in details is quiet obvious as well as shadow layers depth. So why not encourage people to spend the extra bucks on this?

You contradict yourself and you continue to make no sense.

So, you "truly recommend" that people buy the 4K edition, "if someone didn't own it yet", in order to "support the 4K disc industry" despite your claim that "the 4K HDR adds nothing/zero/nada to this film that the bluray doesn't already." Do you therefore "truly recommend" that we buy every 4K disc regardless of the quality? After all, we gotta support that 4K disc industry even when there are no improvements, right?

In your first reply to me you advised that people wait for a sale, or that they even buy this 4K edition "second hand." How is spending the least amount possible really supporting "the 4K disc industry?" Waiting for clearance level pricing does not motivate the studios to release more films on the 4K disc format. Now all of a sudden you are encouraging people to "spend the extra bucks on this" right after telling us that we should pay as little as we can for it, even to buy it used, and that we should not buy it at all if we already own this film on blu-ray.

If showing love to the 4K disc format is your goal, you should be encouraging people to buy it now, not that they wait for a big price drop. If supporting the 4K disc format is oh so important to you, you should be truly recommending that they purchase the 4K edition even if they already own the blu-ray.

Purchasing second hand, as you advised in your first reply to me, does not support the 4K disc format as the studios make nothing from such purchases.

In summary then, we should, according to you, spend the extra money and buy this 4K release even though it offers no improvements over the blu-ray in order to show our support for the 4K disc industry. Unless we already own it on blu-ray, that is, in which case we should not buy it at all which somehow also demonstrates our support.

Yet we should also should pay as little as possible when buying it because when the studios earn as little as possible that really motivates them to release more films on 4K disc.

We should even buy it used because then the studios earn exactly squat from the purchase and earning nothing really stokes their enthusiasm to release more product. Yeah, you're a real champion for the 4K disc format alright.

[kristoffer]

Has anyone compared the disc to digital version? I watched the iTunes version tonight and at times the grain looked a little managed. Is that also case with the disc?


Edit: on close inspection the iTunes version looks nearly identical to the disc.
Grain is not as heavy as I would expect.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13...35&i=4&l=0&a=0

[oddbox83]

Yes, the restoration used a little bit to retain some consistency across the different sources. I have no issue with DNR used in this manner, this is what it should be used for, a tool to manually tweak and not a heavy blanket use.


However, MP4 at lower bitrates like iTunes will be smoothing out grain further.

The caps you link to show plenty of grain left vs the older master which was significantly more processed.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

Has anyone compared the disc to digital version? I watched the iTunes version tonight and at times the grain looked a little managed. Is that also case with the disc?


Edit: on close inspection the iTunes version looks nearly identical to the disc.
Grain is not as heavy as I would expect.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=13...35&i=4&l=0&a=0

Why would you expect it to be heavy though? Movies of this vintage were shot on very slow stock, not that they didn't have grain at all as a result but 25 or 50 ASA stock is going to be very fine grained. Abundant for sure, but not unduly coarse or overbearing especially when transferred from the OG negative.

There has been some 'management' on this restoration and no-one's saying otherwise, but to my eyes it's been used more to balance out the numerous opticals and dupe sections rather than obliterate what's there on the negative, which looks utterly gorgeous IMO.

[Dave Mack]

Interested to get the disc now after the reviews. Last year we bought the vudu 4K Version but it looked really flat and washed out. The black bars on the side were dark grey. Seems like a gamma error or something. The 1080p hd amazon prime stream looks much better even if lower Rez

[Geoff D]

Happy holidays Dave.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

Interested to get the disc now after the reviews. Last year we bought the vudu 4K Version but it looked really flat and washed out. The black bars on the side were dark grey. Seems like a gamma error or something. The 1080p hd amazon prime stream looks much better even if lower Rez

I rewatched this yesterday. This gets me every time! The best Christmas film of all time. ����
Looked marvellous in Dolby Vision 4K on itunes.

[ROSS.T.G.]

I haven’t watched a movie in my collection since end of October. Watched yesterday and a very solid release. DV has really hit its stride now. Highlights weren’t aggressive. I really didn’t see any black crush either.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I haven’t watched a movie in my collection since end of October. Watched yesterday and a very solid release. DV has really hit its stride now. Highlights weren’t aggressive. I really didn’t see any black crush either.

I'd say Apocalypse Now is the DV gold standard to beat right now.

But It's A Wonderful Life is indeed excellent.