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Old 01-17-2020, 08:54 PM   #1
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Over in the AVS forum there is a disagreement regarding what version of HDMI the SC-904 and SC-704 uses. Even though the owners manuals briefly mention HDMI 2.1, some are claiming that the SC-904 and SC-704 really uses HDMI 2.0b.



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Old 01-25-2020, 03:27 AM   #2
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Over in the AVS forum there is a disagreement regarding what version of HDMI the SC-904 and SC-704 uses. Even though the owners manuals briefly mention HDMI 2.1, some are claiming that the SC-904 and SC-704 really uses HDMI 2.0b.



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The 704 and 904 are HDMI 2.0b with eARC capability, not HDMI 2.1
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Old 01-26-2020, 03:43 AM   #3
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The 704 and 904 are HDMI 2.0b with eARC capability, not HDMI 2.1
The owners manuals mention HDMI 2.1, Pioneer should not have mentioned HDMI 2.1 in the owners manual if the receivers are only HDMI 2.0b with eARC.

I never heard back from Pioneer, but this is really confusing if the manual says HDMI 2.1 and the product really is 2.0b.

What proof do you have that the latest Pioneer receivers are 2.0b instead of HDMI 2.1?
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The owners manuals mention HDMI 2.1, Pioneer should not have mentioned HDMI 2.1 in the owners manual if the receivers are only HDMI 2.0b with eARC.

I never heard back from Pioneer, but this is really confusing if the manual says HDMI 2.1 and the product really is 2.0b.

What proof do you have that the latest Pioneer receivers are 2.0b instead of HDMI 2.1?
So look at the USA SC-LX904 user manual and it has this:
PG77
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Connect this unit between a TV and AV component. Connecting this unit with the TV can output the video and audio signals of the AV component to the TV, or play the audio of the TV on this unit. Connection with the TV differs depending on whether the TV supports the ARC (Audio Return Channel) function or eARC (Enhanced Audio Return Channel) function. The ARC function and eARC function transmit the audio signals of the TV via an HDMI cable, and plays the audio of the TV on this unit. To check if the TV supports the ARC function and eARC function, refer to the instruction manual of the TV, etc.
The eARC function is a newly added function for HDMI 2.1.
PG220
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The eARC function is a newly added function for HDMI 2.1. This is an expanded function from the existing ARC function, and is able to send audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio that cannot be sent with the ARC function, from an eARC-compatible TV to this unit.
That doesn't say they are using HDMI 2.1 ports only that the SC-LX904 AVR can do a HDMI 2.1 feature which we all know doesn't require HDMI 2.1 ports.

Some people on AVS don't know how to interpret documentation it seems. There has been older AVR's supporting eARC for awhile hasn't it? A HDMI.org requirement requires them to document this now, even if the ports aren't the latest I think.

Note the AU user manual for the SC-LX904 had the same text also as the USA doc.

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Old 01-28-2020, 12:58 AM   #5
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If you look page 220 of this AU pdf it doesn't.



So look at the USA SC-LX904 user manual and it has this:
PG77

PG220


That doesn't say they are using HDMI 2.1 ports only that the SC-LX904 AVR can do a HDMI 2.1 feature which we all know doesn't require HDMI 2.1 ports.

Some people on AVS don't know how to interpret documentation it seems. There has been older AVR's supporting eARC for awhile hasn't it? A HDMI.org requirement requires them to document this now, even if the ports aren't the latest I think.
Ok then the Pioneer Elite SC-904 and SC-704 has a HDMI 2.1 feature but is not considered full HDMI 2.1.

Really totally confusing in the manual. Pioneer needs to label their spec sheets with the version of HDMI that is being used. I will revise the first post to say HDMI 2.0b like I originally had when I created this thread.
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Old 01-30-2020, 07:53 PM   #6
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To bad the Pioneer does not have DTS X Pro and just standard DTS X. But then having up to 32 channels in a home theater setup is extremly niche.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...58&postcount=1
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