Diminishing Returns: Cabling

[Johnny Vinyl]

The formula I've always used is about 15% of the value of my system. It's worked well as I'm happy with all of my connections. Perhaps one day, if I'm able to, I'll go to a 20% formula, because I really would like to find out at what point my investment starts to roll back.

John

[rded]

Originally Posted by John72953

The formula I've always used is about 15% of the value of my system. It's worked well as I'm happy with all of my connections. Perhaps one day, if I'm able to, I'll go to a 20% formula, because I really would like to find out at what point my investment starts to roll back.

John

Ditto John! My 3 front cables plus my IC approches $1.4k. I actually had the chance of upgrading to all Heimdall. But I thought adding a new sub or upgrading to Cofidence 2 or getting a 2nd 2-channel system will work better for me. My delear gave me a very tempting deal on the C2s but the wife gave me an ultimatum on the TT and integrated amp for the 2nd system She said: "the sooner you get the TT and integ amp, the sooner you'll be able to upgrade to the C2s!"

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by rded

Ditto John! My 3 front cables plus my IC approches $1.4k. I actually had the chance of upgrading to all Heimdall. But I thought adding a new sub or upgrading to Cofidence 2 or getting a 2nd 2-channel system will work better for me. My delear gave me a very tempting deal on the C2s but the wife gave me an ultimatum on the TT and integrated amp for the 2nd system She said: "the sooner you get the TT and integ amp, the sooner you'll be able to upgrade to the C2s!"

You gotta love the ladies!

I think many people, if not most (even on this forum), would tell us that we are wasting our money incorporating better accessories (such as cabling, wire, stands, isolation tweaks, etc). Even with my entry-level system I can tell the difference good upgrades make. I can only imagine what those differences would be like on a system like yours, Intamin and naturephoto1(Rich).

John

[rded]

Originally Posted by John72953

You gotta love the ladies!

I think many people, if not most (even on this forum), would tell us that we are wasting our money incorporating better accessories (such as cabling, wire, stands, isolation tweaks, etc). Even with my entry-level system I can tell the difference good upgrades make. I can only imagine what those differences would be like on a system like yours, Intamin and naturephoto1(Rich).

John

I know John. You, me, Intamin and the 3 Riches are true audio enthusiasts and because of that we are considered a "dying breed". I am really glad that you guys are here to educated or at least give your honest to goodness advice other members.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by rded

I know John. You, me, Intamin and the 3 Riches are true audio enthusiasts and because of that we are considered a "dying breed". I am really glad that you guys are here to educated or at least give your honest to goodness advice other members.

I'm not sure about the "advice-giving" part for myself , but yes I have a lot of passion about this. It would be hoot to get all of us in a room to sit and chat about all of this!

As a an aside: Great Thread Intamin!

John

[naturephoto1]

Guys,

You may wish to look into some of the ICs and power cords from Kevin in Taiwan that many of Dave Schulte's customers use. Kevin also makes a higher end line of some of these products sold under Dave's Time Portal line name. Here is a link for one of his silver ICs that I like very much:

http://tinyurl.com/dlcqs2

Check out Kevin's other products. He uses some of the best available materials coming in from China and does the work in Taipei. He is using most of the same materials used by the high end users in the US for a huge cost savings.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

Guys,

You may wish to look into some of the ICs and power cords from Kevin in Taiwan that many of Dave Schulte's customers use. Kevin also makes a higher end line of some of these products sold under Dave's Time Portal line name. Here is a link for one of his silver ICs that I like very much:

http://tinyurl.com/dlcqs2

Check out Kevin's other products. He uses some of the best available materials coming in from China and does the work in Taipei. He is using most of the same materials used by the high end users in the US for a huge cost savings.

Hi Rich,

Once this economic downturn lets up I'll be investigating some of the suggestions you have brought forward.

John

[rded]

Originally Posted by John72953

Hi Rich,

Once this economic downturn lets up I'll be investigating some of the suggestions you have brought forward.

John

What are you talking about? You're in Canada! You guys have it really good up there!

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by rded

I know John. You, me, Intamin and the 3 Riches are true audio enthusiasts and because of that we are considered a "dying breed". I am really glad that you guys are here to educated or at least give your honest to goodness advice other members.

Rhett,

Don't forget to add Big Daddy, Greg (gremal), Sir Terrance, Woody, Andrew (mdabb), Nick (welwynnick), Prerich, Steve (dobyblue) and a few others to this short list for the lunie asylum.

Rich

[rded]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

Rhett,

Don't forget to add Big Daddy, Greg (gremal), Sir Terrance, Woody, Andrew (mdabb), Nick (welwynnick), Prerich, Steve (dobyblue) and a few others to this short list for the lunie asylum.

Rich

My Bad Rich!! I guess the looney bin group is a lot bigger than I originally thought! We should have a convention

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by naturephoto1

Rhett,

Don't forget to add Big Daddy, Greg (gremal), Sir Terrance, Woody, Andrew (mdabb), Nick (welwynnick), Prerich, Steve (dobyblue) and a few others to this short list for the lunie asylum.

Rich

And rich (richteer)! And you know what else Rich, when some of us started posting in the vinyl section on a regular basis we 've had some people come there expressing a great interest in that format and 2-channel audio in general. Guys like CasualKiller and my buddy Opips! Gotta love him!

John

[naturephoto1]

Originally Posted by John72953

And rich (richteer)! And you know what else Rich, when some of us started posting in the vinyl section on a regular basis we 've had some people come there expressing a great interest in that format and 2-channel audio in general. Guys like CasualKiller and my buddy Opips! Gotta love him!

John

I think that Rich Teer was one of the 3 Riches that I think that Rhett was referring to; I am not sure if he meant Prerich as the third. Is Opips' native language French? Like a lot here I also have a bit of difficulty understanding him? But, yes he and CasualKiller (another casualty due to the economy) and CrazyBlue are getting into our ranks, but they have to work at it a bit longer.

Rich

[richteer]

Originally Posted by John72953

The formula I've always used is about 15% of the value of my system. It's worked well as I'm happy with all of my connections. Perhaps one day, if I'm able to, I'll go to a 20% formula, because I really would like to find out at what point my investment starts to roll back.

John

I think somewhere between 10% and 20% is a good rule of thumb. If nothing else, it helps keep one's spending in check! For example, I'd love the bragging rights that would come with using Valhalla between my preamp and power amps, but even if I keep my room configuration the same (which I don't wnat to do), using a $6k cable to connect a $1k preamp to a $3.5k pair of amps just isn't sensible!