Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4K UHD (1977-2019)

[PRO-630HD]

Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth

Lucas always said that he wrote star wars for 12 year olds. ROTJ was written for 5 year olds. Too many song and dance numbers and those stupid ewoks. If that's your thing, good for you, but it's not for me. I would've given it a C grade. Maybe C-

The major flaw of Return of the Jedi? Ewoks! Originally written they were supposed to be Wookies on Kashyyyk instead of Endor. People would have loved that! Instead we got Teddy Bears. Stupid move on Lucas's part and Harrison Ford hated the Ewoks. Georges thought process was the Wookies were too technologically advanced to be a primitive culture living in trees. First off look at The Holiday Special, yes Wookies living in trees just like the Ewoks. Look at our planet and native man living in the Amazon to this current day, the Aborigines in Australia. Yes primitive Wookies would have worked much better.

When Teddy Bears take out the biggest threat to the galaxy being the Empire it diminishes the threat they impose and makes them look like 3rd rate amateurs. Otherwise I actually think that Return of the Jedi is a very strong film with the exception of that one minor flaw.

[alexdg1]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Meh, I think Rise of Skywalker is fine. If there's one thing I'm grateful for the Sequel Trilogy showing me, it's that people take Star Wars way too seriously (and I'm as guilty of it as anyone, or at least I was).

As a Star Wars fan from the 1977 Generation, I can honestly say that I like all three Trilogies, albeit with more fondness for the Original Trilogy than for the Prequels/Sequels. The only film of the saga that I have storytelling issues with is Attack of the Clones. I don't hate it, but it just doesn't work well for me.

Re the Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, I canceled my Walmart order because I'm not sure that I trust a third-party seller on Wally World. Ordered the set from Best Buy.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

When Teddy Bears take out the biggest threat to the galaxy being the Empire it diminishes the threat they impose and makes them look like 3rd rate amateurs.

It's meant to be like how the Viet Cong defeated the American soldiers.

[Panama Jack]

Originally Posted by alexdg1

Re the Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, I canceled my Walmart order because I'm not sure that I trust a third-party seller on Wally World. Ordered the set from Best Buy.

The Walmart set was NOT being sold by a third party seller. I checked it multiple times while the listing was up, and it very clearly said Shipped and Sold by Walmart.com. I posted that earlier today. But whatever, you'll really like the Best Buy set, and you'll get 4k discs and 4k digital copies as well.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

The major flaw of Return of the Jedi? Ewoks! Originally written they were supposed to be Wookies on Kashyyyk instead of Endor. People would have loved that! Instead we got Teddy Bears. Stupid move on Lucas's part and Harrison Ford hated the Ewoks. Georges thought process was the Wookies were too technologically advanced to be a primitive culture living in trees. First off look at The Holiday Special, yes Wookies living in trees just like the Ewoks. Look at our planet and native man living in the Amazon to this current day, the Aborigines in Australia. Yes primitive Wookies would have worked much better.

When Teddy Bears take out the biggest threat to the galaxy being the Empire it diminishes the threat they impose and makes them look like 3rd rate amateurs. Otherwise I actually think that Return of the Jedi is a very strong film with the exception of that one minor flaw.

It's almost as absurd as the resistance taking out the First Order's entire base of operations in Starkiller Base and then somehow their entire armada is subsequently running for their lives at a disadvantage during the beginning of ep.8 .

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Nothing371

It's almost as absurd as the resistance taking out the First Order's entire base of operations in Starkiller Base and then their somehow their entire armada is
subsequently running for their lives at a disadvantage during the beginning of ep.8 .

That doesn't mean they can't still be dangerous.

[mikematt101]

Originally Posted by Nothing371

It's almost as absurd as the resistance taking out the First Order's entire base of operations in Starkiller Base and then their somehow their entire armada is
subsequently running for their lives at a disadvantage during the beginning of ep.8 .

Not as absurd as Rey and Luke standing rooted to the spot on Ahch-To while all the stuff described in The Last Jedi crawl & the opening battle happens....

[RodChester]

Originally Posted by mikematt101

Not as absurd as Rey and Luke standing rooted to the spot on Ahch-To while all the stuff described in The Last Jedi crawl & the opening battle happens....

The crawl of The Last Jedi just describes what happened in The Force Awakens. Nothing absurd there.

[samlop10]

The Phantom Menace 4K Disc Review:

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/star...tom-menace-uhd

Not surprised at the results given the state of digital production at the time.

[PRO-630HD]

Originally Posted by shane01

I much prefer Trevorrow's draft. Even if he stayed on board, it would have been altered because of Carrie's death, however.

I think The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi got to deconstruct the Original Trilogy, for better or worse, but The Rise of Skywalker decided it was in fact part of the whole Saga all along, and it just couldn't deliver on that conceit in one movie under the circumstances.

Agreed! The draft completed a year before The Last Jedi was released. Since Fischer was dead the smart thing to do was have Luke Skywalker take command of the Resistance in their fight against the First Order! So no you don't kill off the one man that saved the entire galaxy and turn him into a self loathing Hermit! Rian Johnson is an idiot and took a giant $hi+! all over Luke Skywalker's character! Along with his treatment of Rey are easily the films biggest problems. Canto Bright is the least of The Last Jedi's issues. Hamill knew this early as he stated "Luke would take a year or two off and come back and sort out the problem. Jedi's never quit. Not my Luke Skywalker" And another thing Hamill knows the character of Luke Skywalker far better than Rian Johnson ever will. Bottom line is the character arcs were far better in an enclosed episode 7 - 9 trilogy. Drawing episode 9 into a 9 story arc was bound to collapse under it's own weight. The sequel trilogy started out so well with The Force Awakens and unfortunately went downhill from there. It also helped tremendously that Lawrence Kasdan helped write the script! I would have paid him whatever he wanted to write all three.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

So no you don't kill off the one man that saved the entire galaxy and turn him into a self loathing Hermit! Rian Johnson is an idiot and took a giant $hi+! all over Luke Skywalker's character!

You're attached by a Messiah complex when it comes to Luke, where you think he is infallible and beyond scrutiny.

[aiman04]

The Phantom Menace review by Bill Hunt.

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/star...tom-menace-uhd

[Batman90]

I regret ordering fro DMC. Even though I got a really good deal on all the movies. $125 for 9 4K movies is good. But not happy my order hasn’t moved an inch.

[mikematt101]

Originally Posted by aiman04

The Phantom Menace review by Bill Hunt.

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/star...tom-menace-uhd

So they haven't even ported over all the stuff from the old prequel DVDs. Unless someone tells me the new BDs are significantly better than the 2011 versions, I'm heading for the exit.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Hamill knew this early as he stated "Luke would take a year or two off and come back and sort out the problem. Jedi's never quit. Not my Luke Skywalker"

You're removing the context of those quotes. He said after seeing the movie that he was wrong about his doubts, and he came to believe that Rian Johnson was the exact man they needed for the job. And no, he was not paid off to change his mind.

[Majoran]

Originally Posted by mikematt101

So they haven't even ported over all the stuff from the old prequel DVDs. Unless someone tells me the new BDs are significantly better than the 2011 versions, I'm heading for the exit.

Probably best for you to exit right then....especially if you’re not going to watch the UHDBRs. If anything you can probably pick them up for cheap when people sell them off.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by aiman04

The Phantom Menace review by Bill Hunt.

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/star...tom-menace-uhd

Taken with a grain of salt because it's Bill, but this was one I was wondering how the PQ would be, and I see it's still terrible.

This movie I can only really watch for the podracing and the duel of the fates. Every time I watch it I think, "It's going to get better!" and - no, no it doesn't.

[redxrebellion]

So is there anything exclusive to this set besides swag?

[PRO-630HD]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

You're removing the context of those quotes. He said after seeing the movie that he was wrong about his doubts, and he came to believe that Rian Johnson was the exact man they needed for the job. And no, he was not paid off to change his mind.

He wasn't wrong about anything! Disney made him rescind his comments! He refers to the character he played in "The Last Jedi" as Jake Skywalker. He was unhappy with the treatment of the character in the sequel trilogy. You would have to be a fool not to realize that.

He stated this in interview after interview prior to the release! He views it as a missed opportunity and he was never even given the decency of a hero moment once in the film and Harrison had many in The Force Awakens.

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2018/...uke-skywalker/

All 50+ times Mark Hamill tried to subtly warn us about last jedi/force awakens and Disney - YouTube

[crystalpepsi]

Originally Posted by aiman04

The Phantom Menace review by Bill Hunt.

https://thedigitalbits.com/item/star...tom-menace-uhd

Originally Posted by Bill Hunt

For the film’s original DVD release in 2001, that interpositive was scanned in 10-bit 2K by Lowry Digital, resulting in the creation of a 2K Digital Intermediate (complete with digital VFX tweaks and a color grade supervised by Lucas). This source was used again for the 2011 Blu-ray release, though with a bit more Lowry Digital remastering (and still more digital VFX and color timing tweaks).

For The Phantom Meance’s 3D theatrical release—and to protect Disney’s investment following the studio’s purchase of the Star Wars franchise in 2012—the cut negative (with VFX film-outs) was scanned again in 16-bit 4K by Reliance MediaWorks (formerly Lowry Digital).

Is there a source for this? I know that Reliance did 16-bit 4K scans in 2012 for the original trilogy, but I haven't seen a single source mentioning TPM, and the 4K scan thing doesn't make much sense.

Very few shots (~170 out of 2000+) lack digital effects, so it's a digital film for all intents and purposes. A 4K scan of a 2K filmout would be more expensive than an upscale and would look worse for nearly every shot (except for those ~170 au naturel shots without digital effects).

It's unlikely that they spliced filmouts of the 2011 changes (like the CGI Yoda) into the negative, so you would have to redo those, and it would be a huge waste of money to do the same changes for releases five months apart.