Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

Hopefully at least it’ll end not long after, at least the lockdowns. I never knew how much I’d miss going into stores until I couldn’t anymore. Target & the Supermarket is all I’ve been to.

I don't expect things to get back to normal until sometime in summer if we're being honest here. By the time stores do reopen things will be different. Lots of more store closures coming in the next 12 months.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

I don't expect things to get back to normal until sometime in summer if we're being honest here. By the time stores do reopen things will be different. Lots of more store closures coming in the next 12 months.

It'll be a lot longer than summer...

Once the virus peaks and new cases are negligible then the threat (as China, South Korea etc. are now experiencing) will be new clusters of infections from visitors from other countries...

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

It'll be a lot longer than summer...

Once the virus peaks and new cases are negligible then the threat (as China, South Korea etc. are now experiencing) will be new clusters of infections from visitors from other countries...

Come on! Let's be more optimistic than that. I have vacation plans in June and am hoping I can still go through with it and not have to cancel anything.

[rdodolak]

Here's an interesting article on the Spanish flu.

Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly

...
Not only was it shocking that healthy young men and women were dying by the millions worldwide, but it was also how they were dying. Struck with blistering fevers, nasal hemorrhaging and pneumonia, the patients would drown in their own fluid-filled lungs.

Only decades later were scientists able explain the phenomenon now known as “cytokine explosion.” When the human body is being attacked by a virus, the immune system sends messenger proteins called cytokines to promote helpful inflammation. But some strains of the flu, particularly the H1N1 strain responsible for the Spanish flu outbreak, can trigger a dangerous immune overreaction in healthy individuals. In those cases, the body is overloaded with cytokines leading to severe inflammation and the fatal buildup of fluid in the lungs.
...

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

I don't expect things to get back to normal until sometime in summer if we're being honest here. By the time stores do reopen things will be different. Lots of more store closures coming in the next 12 months.

I doubt they’ll keep the stores closed that long. I also don’t think the majority of people will stand for it honestly, especially when the weather is nicer.

[Captain Flint]

Originally Posted by darkness2918

I doubt they’ll keep the stores closed that long. I also don’t think the majority of people will stand for it honestly, especially when the weather is nicer.

This. There's going to be a mass revolt once the weather starts turning nicer. People will flock to the beaches and other crowded spaces. People won't stay cooped up inside for another few months, let alone 12. The country will need to re-open sooner rather than later.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Anyone that thinks the virus will be "over" by the summer is dreaming. They haven't even come up with a vaccine/cure yet, and may not until next year.

I myself was starting to make vacation plans before the pandemic started, but completely put them on hold. I have 0 plans to go anywhere this summer. There is no way in hell I'm getting on a plane & travelling anywhere while this virus is still floating around - even if the powers that be say it's OK to fly.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

It'll be a lot longer than summer...

Once the virus peaks and new cases are negligible then the threat (as China, South Korea etc. are now experiencing) will be new clusters of infections from visitors from other countries...

...And Americans returning home.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Captain Flint

This. There's going to be a mass revolt once the weather starts turning nicer. People will flock to the beaches and other crowded spaces. People won't stay cooped up inside for another few months, let alone 12. The country will need to re-open sooner rather than later.

Good lock.

Before that happens, Trump hotels and casinos will be open for business.
...Hollywood movie theaters too.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by AnamorphicWidescreen

Anyone that thinks the virus will be "over" by the summer is dreaming. They haven't even come up with a vaccine/cure yet, and may not until next year.

I myself was starting to make vacation plans before the pandemic started, but completely put them on hold. I have 0 plans to go anywhere this summer. There is no way in hell I'm getting on a plane & travelling anywhere while this virus is still floating around - even if the powers that be say it's OK to fly.

Yup. My vacations will consist of my back yard for the next 2 years...

[RustinCohle]

Damn. Just imagine if we had a countrywide mandatory lockdown that started two weeks ago instead of all these “suggestions” and “guidelines” and “voluntary” things. We’d probably be almost done with this virus.

[Pondosinatra]

This is kinda cool...you're already online posting about this virus...why not help stop it at the same time?

https://foldingathome.org/

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

Damn. Just imagine if we had a countrywide mandatory lockdown that started two weeks ago instead of all these “suggestions” and “guidelines” and “voluntary” things. We’d probably be almost done with this virus.

Unless you plan to stop people from traveling to/from here for the next year+, we wouldn't be done with anything. Also good luck trying to enforce a mandatory lockdown of a country this size.

[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

Damn. Just imagine if we had a countrywide mandatory lockdown that started two weeks ago instead of all these “suggestions” and “guidelines” and “voluntary” things. We’d probably be almost done with this virus.

Yep because we've still got people running to "essential" stores to buy non essential items.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

Damn. Just imagine if we had a countrywide mandatory lockdown that started two weeks ago instead of all these “suggestions” and “guidelines” and “voluntary” things. We’d probably be almost done with this virus.

Just imagine if we had restricted entry to the US (primarily air travel), to include China, earlier on.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

The current mortality rate for CV19 in the US is 0.017 based on 140,990 cases and 2,457 deaths.

But (IMO) the real stat is those who have recovered: 4,435. That's a very low recovery rate.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

10% of 150,000 (rounded number) is 15,000
5% is 7,500
1% is 1,500
2% is 3,000

Say the world is careful, and we only view best cases scenarios to keep the spirit up; is 100,000 a reasonable number? ...Too much? We're 97,500 from that. ...That is quite a lot.

Lee, where are you going on Easter, April 12...two weeks exactly from now?
You think we'll be over 100,000...worldwide?

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

Yep because we've still got people running to "essential" stores to buy non essential items.

I couldn’t even find toothpaste when I went to the store this weekend. Face it, all the essential items are sold out!!

We are all stuck just ordering everything at Amazon for inflated prices.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I couldn’t even find toothpaste when I went to the store this weekend. Face it, all the essential items are sold out!!

We are all stuck just ordering everything at Amazon for inflated prices.

Did you check your local Walgreens or the equivalent?

[darkness2918]

Originally Posted by Captain Flint

This. There's going to be a mass revolt once the weather starts turning nicer. People will flock to the beaches and other crowded spaces. People won't stay cooped up inside for another few months, let alone 12. The country will need to re-open sooner rather than later.

I think itll open sooner as well. People are just not going to stay inside during nicer weather, most don't even do it now. And with nicer weather people will want to buy clothes ect… so they definitely wont put up with stores being closed. Its only a matter of time I think before some people reach the breaking point.

[MifuneFan]

Plenty of toothpaste available at all local Targets.