Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Underworld54]

You can't tell me that you can open up a barber as being an essential business but keep meat packing places closed and saying they're non essential.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

You can't tell me that you can open up a barber as being an essential business but keep meat packing places closed and saying they're non essential.

Um, they are considered essential, maybe do some research. Meat packing and processing plants aren't all shut down. The administration has ordered that they remain open. Some have had to temporarily close, but they are all mandated to stay open. You don't need to open up the country for those places to hire new people.. You should also understand that you can't just get someone off the street for this kind of job..

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

You can't tell me that you can open up a barber as being an essential business but keep meat packing places closed and saying they're non essential.

Meat isn’t essential. I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 16 (I’m 38 now), and I can tell you that you don’t need meat to live.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Funny thing that Cuomo was saying yesterday that everyone should wear a mask and it's disrespectful if you don't do so. He even said that it's such a simple thing to do. I'm not the biggest fan of the guy, but oh man, he was so right!! That's what has been getting me so annoyed all along. People in this world just don't do the simplest things and that's why messes like this happen. A lot of times, what's expected of us in life is so little yet somehow, stupid people still don't want to do it.

was Cuomo wearing a mask? i havent seen him wear a mask ever. regardless if he is nowhere near anyone, perception is everything.

Originally Posted by Omegaice

Do you truly believe that the virus cares about your age? I'm all for modern medicine & finding a viable vaccine to fight against King Corona but that could take years to develop SAFELY. I'm over 40 & I can not work from home & I have been going into work since all of this started. What about folks like me? Guess we're screwed then but oh well, right? Folks have to be allowed to return work & earn money to provide for their families & not every occupation has a nice "WFH" option.

higher risk people would be recommended to stay at home but if they are comfortable going to work, then they go to work.

Originally Posted by mar3o

But when does safe distancing apply and when is it allowed to be relaxed? At some point in the florist shop, you need to approach the counter, to either discuss an arrangement if you need something custom, or at least to possibly exchange money. At some point your going to break the 6-foot rule. But I doubt there will be major crowds at a florist shop. Popular mall stores though can get pretty crowded fast. When I go to bath & body works with my girlfriend, those are often pretty packed.

My favorite small local pizza shop doesn't even allow credit card payments - they don't even have a machine - it's cash only.

Clothing stores are pretty important but they get busy, plus people are handling and trying on clothes and then putting them back on the rack for somebody else to try on.

the 6ft rule is broken EVERY DAY at grocery stores. how is going up to the cashier at a flower shop any different than going up to one at a grocery store

Originally Posted by mar3o

https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-re...160833255.html

People will have to 'repeatedly self-isolate for 14 days at a time' under virus contact tracing drive



Fun times. This is in Scotland. No way that would fly in the US.

Originally Posted by mar3o

The more I think about this article, the more I think they're going a step too far over in Scotland:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/people-re...160833255.html

That's, simply put, unrealistic and unachievable. So you're sitting 2 seats away from somebody at a hair salon waiting your turn and that weekend you're contacted and expected to go into isolation just because the person 2 chairs away tested positive for it? 2 Weeks later you have a customer come into your work and spends 15 minutes discussing something, or you're at a meeting, and that weekend you get contacted again and are expected to go into isolation for another 2 weeks?! And that's in a hotel, not your own home! And this can repeat indefinitely, just because an app triggers your locations being nearby somebody who has it?

Come on, this is going too far. That's an unrealistic burden and will basically mean more people will lose jobs if they suddenly have to disappear for 2 weeks even if they aren't sick just because an app says so. Plus, as the article says, there can be false positives as people in apartments can trigger false positives just by being on opposite walls, due to bluetooth picking up through the walls. It could easily pick up your neighbor on the opposite wall to your apartment. I have a neighbor directly on the other side of my wall, and my bluetooth picks up his laptop every time I do a search for bluetooth devices.

There's a point where some ideas are just not feasible, and will do more harm than good, and this crazy idea is one of them.

that is preciseness what that are going to try and do here with the app coming out soon. im not downloading that nonsense on my phone and im sure the majority of people wont either

[MifuneFan]

Cuomo/NY's mandate for wearing a mask is to do so in situations where social distancing can't be maintained. That isn't an issue at his press briefings, which I have to assume most people are seeing him (if not in an interview on CNN or something)

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Meat isn’t essential. I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 16 (I’m 38 now), and I can tell you that you don’t need meat to live.

By that logic, then vegetables aren't essential either. Like it or not, both meat and others foods are part of the food supply we depend on, and obviously is and should be considered essential. We don't need food shortages.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Cuomo/NY's mandate for wearing a mask is to do so in situations where social distancing can't be maintained. That isn't an issue at his press briefings, which I have to assume most people are seeing him (if not in an interview on CNN or something)

totally understand that but perception is everything. there are going to be people out there who say, well, if he's not wearing one, neither will i.

people arent very bright and adhere to the monkey see monkey do approach

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Cuomo/NY's mandate for wearing a mask is to do so in situations where social distancing can't be maintained. That isn't an issue at his press briefings, which I have to assume most people are seeing him (if not in an interview on CNN or something)

A lot of people still don't understand that and assume you have to wear a mask all the time outside your home. I see people driving with them on all the time.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by bruceames

By that logic, then vegetables aren't essential either. Like it or not, both meat and others foods are part of the food supply we depend on, and obviously is and should be considered essential. We don't need food shortages.

Food is essential, yes. But meat isn’t. You can live a long and healthy life with fruits, vegetables, and miscellaneous foods such as nuts.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Food is essential, yes. But meat isn’t. You can live a long and healthy life with fruits, vegetables, and miscellaneous foods such as nuts.

Meat is food. Get off your vegetarian high horse. I could live a long and happy life as a carnivore if I wanted to.

[Moe Szyslak]

"Whatever fits my particular worldview should be considered essential"

Got it.

[MifuneFan]

Yes, "starvation" isn't coming. That's hyperbole at its finest. I mean, people could live off of just potatoes if they had to, and there's a huge excess of that right now, and they're actually being thrown away sadly. All of this food should be exported to places where people are actually starving to death...

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Food is essential, yes. But meat isn’t. You can live a long and healthy life with fruits, vegetables, and miscellaneous foods such as nuts.

Guess you missed the rancher saying they are being forced to mow under crops too...it's just not being forced to kill livestock.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Yes, "starvation" isn't coming. That's hyperbole at its finest. I mean, people could live off of just potatoes if they had to, and there's a huge excess of that right now, and they're actually being thrown away sadly. All of this food should be exported to places where people are actually starving to death...

Eating just potatoes would cause long felt health issues. We have to stop this short term thinking and think long term ramifications too.

[Naiera]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

We have to open up. This is ridiculous.

[Show spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9pC...ature=youtu.be

Nope.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Meat is food. Get off your vegetarian high horse. I could live a long and happy life as a carnivore if I wanted to.

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

"Whatever fits my particular worldview should be considered essential"

Got it.

I didn’t mean to imply that those that prefer to eat meat should stop, just that "essential" means necessary, and you don’t need meat to live. Excuse me for wanting words to be used properly.

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Guess you missed the rancher saying they are being forced to mow under crops too...it's just not being forced to kill livestock.

I didn’t watch the video.

[Underworld54]

Let's say we ate potatoes and only potatoes for months. There would be a huge spike in obesity and a huge spike in diabetes and heart disease.

[Lacit170]

what happened to this thread???

we really talking about only eating potatoes and only eating vegetables lol

i know youre both being facetious but i dont think we need to go into depth on the topics

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Let's say we ate potatoes and only potatoes for months. There would be a huge spike in obesity and a huge spike in diabetes and heart disease.

I guess you don't understand how hypoetheticals work. No one will actually have to eat just potatoes for the next few months. There will be a huge variety of food available even with any shortages. The point being no one here will be starving.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

I didn’t mean to imply that those that prefer to eat meat should stop, just that "essential" means necessary, and you don’t need meat to live. Excuse me for wanting words to be used properly.

You don't need vegetables to live either.

But both meat and vegetables comprise the world's food supply and both are considered essential. Cut off part of that supply and you have a food shortage.