Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[mojo_navigator]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The potential of not having access to electricity when it gets dark would make it virtually impossible to be a movie fanatic and enjoy our films ...

I disagree. We’ve seen all our favourite movies multiple times by now; I’m sure we could sit in total darkness and recreate them in our minds unaided

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Solar requires electrical storage, none of the rare earth batteries are environmentally sound. Look at the Tesla powerwall as a example. You could go fuel cell, but making cars and fuel cells is very expensive. Still that is the future over current electric cars. Even Elon Musk says the tech is ‘mind-bogglingly stupid,’ but hydrogen cars may yet threaten Tesla.

We don’t yet have the technology for mass scale storage. We have solar farms with battery back up but not at the capacity require for mass adoption, not even close. We need new battery technology and it’s a race against time. Failing that, we need Solar that gives us power at night. I’m sure you can appreciate that’s a big ask.

There are some that believe it’s just not possible to have a consumerist society and go all renewable. That’s a very worrying thought.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The potential of not having access to electricity when it gets dark would make it virtually impossible to be a movie fanatic and enjoy our films so yeah..far more concerned with climate change and a solution that allows us to stay in this century and not go back to the dark ages. What’s the point of surviving a pandemic if the future is no enjoyment of what I care about most outside of family?

There is no basis for any of your fears as usual. The power grid is not facing imminent collapse. No one in authority is proposing rationing our power.

There are many clean renewable sources for power and they do not all require toxic batteries to function. The need for electrical power will be met as it always has been met.

And here's a new flash for you: movies can be watched during the daytime. You can also create your own dark environment; you'd think a projector owner would realize that readily.

The pandemic is a real and present danger; it is actually killing people and that is plenty to worry about without adding your endless list of contrived fears.

Why not throw in asteroid strikes, vertically framed content, Quibi, those wily vegetarians, and every other fevered worry of yours while you're at it? Why not just totally paralyze yourself with all of your silly fears at the same time?

You might enjoy this PBS documentary: Blackout:

"A look at what happened in New York City the night the lights went out in July of 1977, plunging 7 million city residents into darkness. By the time power was restored, stores and businesses had been looted and burned and thousands had been arrested."

https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/American...ut-DVD/212153/

May as well throw in the resulting civil unrest and really piss your pants.

I have far better uses for my time than to entertain your endless litany of doomsday scenarios; shouldn't you be outside building your bunker or stocking the one that you already have? When you emerge from it in 10 years as the last one standing all the movies will be yours and streaming will be gone; you'll be in your own post apocalyptic cinematic heaven.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

There is no basis for any of your fears as usual. The power grid is not facing imminent collapse. No one in authority is proposing rationing our power.

There are many clean renewable sources for power and they do not all require toxic batteries to function. The need for electrical power will be met as it always has been met.

And here's a new flash for you: movies can be watched during the daytime. You can also create your own dark environment; you'd think a projector owner would realize that readily.

The pandemic is a real and present danger; it is actually killing people and that is plenty to worry about without adding your endless list of contrived fears.

Why not throw in asteroid strikes, vertically framed content, Quibi, those wily vegetarians, and every other fevered worry of yours while you're at it? Why not just totally paralyze yourself with all of your silly fears at the same time?

You might enjoy this PBS documentary: Blackout:

"A look at what happened in New York City the night the lights went out in July of 1977, plunging 7 million city residents into darkness. By the time power was restored, stores and businesses had been looted and burned and thousands had been arrested."

https://www.blu-ray.com/dvd/American...ut-DVD/212153/

May as well throw in the resulting civil unrest and really piss your pants.

I have far better uses for my time than to entertain your endless litany of doomsday scenarios; shouldn't you be outside building your bunker or stocking the one that you already have? When you emerge from it in 10 years as the last one standing all the movies will be yours and streaming will be gone; you'll be in your own post apocalyptic cinematic heaven.

How can a daytime movie experience be met when I (and many millions) work most of the time it’s sunny? The only chance I get for films is nighttime and Saturday.

I know what people think of some of my posts but this is based in fact. We either go 100% renewable and sacrifice everything we enjoy or we keep fossil fuels and hurt the planet.
It’s not possible imo to go renewable AND continue with our energy usage. Not going to happen. We will need to make huge sacrifices, which personally I’m not prepared to make.

Like you say, there are renewable options but only two are cost effective. Wind and Solar. Both are intermittent sources and NEED storage or they simply won’t provide us what we need. If we do find a storage solution, we STILL need to cut our energy use by an estimated 55% by 2030. How do we do that?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

How can a daytime movie experience be met when I (and many millions) work most of the time it’s sunny? The only chance I get for films is nighttime and Saturday night.

Work 7 days a week do you? From sun up to sundown? You're very busy and you still find time to scare us here at blu-ray.com!

While the world crumbles around you, you think that your job will be safe? Love your optimism; I never thought that I would get to say that about you!

Nothing that you said is based in fact; everything that you say is based upon your own endless font of personal fears.

Renewable energy alone can meet our power needs if we as a society want it to; all we lack is the will.

Wind power does not need storage; we have wind farms in many places that generate power and transmit it directly to utilities for distribution. There is also hydroelectric power and geothermal power. Solar energy can be used in real time as well. Battery technology is advancing like every other form of tech.

I have spent all the effort on this that I intend to; replying to your every worry consumes too much of my energy. Not to mention it is futile; you are going to stay scared no matter what happens.

[Wendell R. Breland]

An estimated 88,0005 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women5) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.

I would wager alcohol and tobacco will remain on store shelves, people will continue to eat Big Mac's, pay someone to wash their car or mow their lawn and stream rather than get off their butt and put a disc in the player.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

I would wager alcohol and tobacco will remain on store shelves, people will continue to eat Big Mac's, pay someone to wash their car or mow their lawn and stream rather than get off their butt and put a disc in the player.

I can't catch cirrhosis of the liver or lung cancer from anyone.

Pretty sure obesity isn't contagious, either.

[Chevypower]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If you deeply cared for film, I think you want that video/audio quality that only disc offers.

Interesting. The cameras record digital files. The files are uploaded into the NLE system in digital files. It’s mastered to a digital file. But the quality doesn’t come until it’s authored to a disc? Here’s another surprise for you. You can extract the video and audio from a disc back to a file in the same quality as a disc. Amazing isn’t it?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

Interesting. The cameras record digital files. The files are uploaded into the NLE system in digital files. It’s mastered to a digital file. But the quality doesn’t come until it’s authored to a disc? Here’s another surprise for you. You can extract the video and audio from a disc back to a file in the same quality as a disc. Amazing isn’t it?

You're replying to a post he made in January now?

The digital master derived from what the digital camera captures is not what we as consumers get. Disc formats and streaming both use compression and the latter, streaming, uses far more compression than do the comparable disc formats; that's the point. The least compressed file is the preferred file for those that care about quality.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

Interesting. The cameras record digital files. The files are uploaded into the NLE system in digital files. It’s mastered to a digital file. But the quality doesn’t come until it’s authored to a disc? Here’s another surprise for you. You can extract the video and audio from a disc back to a file in the same quality as a disc. Amazing isn’t it?

Someone tell this guy, I can’t be bothered.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Work 7 days a week do you? From sun up to sundown? You're very busy and you still find time to scare us here at blu-ray.com!

While the world crumbles around you, you think that your job will be safe? Love your optimism; I never thought that I would get to say that about you!

Nothing that you said is based in fact; everything that you say is based upon your own endless font of personal fears.

Renewable energy alone can meet our power needs if we as a society want it to; all we lack is the will.

Wind power does not need storage; we have wind farms in many places that generate power and transmit it directly to utilities for distribution. There is also hydroelectric power and geothermal power. Solar energy can be used in real time as well. Battery technology is advancing like every other form of tech.

I have spent all the effort on this that I intend to; replying to your every worry consumes too much of my energy. Not to mention it is futile; you are going to stay scared no matter what happens.

What is not fact sir?

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

What is not fact sir?

What part of "I'm done" with this topic was unclear to you?

Facts come with citations; your recent posts about your current (pun intended) tangent contain none. You are the one making the assertions and the predictions; the burden of proof is yours. If you come up with any, show it to someone else; I lack the energy for this tired topic.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Someone tell this guy, I can’t be bothered.

It's "all digital" after all.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

The potential of not having access to electricity when it gets dark would make it virtually impossible to be a movie fanatic and enjoy our films so yeah..far more concerned with climate change and a solution that allows us to stay in this century and not go back to the dark ages. What’s the point of surviving a pandemic if the future is no enjoyment of what I care about most outside of family?

Is this we are all doomed because you getting bored thinking about power failures spoiling your tranquility?

[bhampton]

If I buy Physical Media and whistle that "Don't Worry Be Happy" song will that solve it?

That's what I'm trying so far.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Chevypower

Interesting. The cameras record digital files. The files are uploaded into the NLE system in digital files. It’s mastered to a digital file. But the quality doesn’t come until it’s authored to a disc? Here’s another surprise for you. You can extract the video and audio from a disc back to a file in the same quality as a disc. Amazing isn’t it?

So everything we do from digital cameras to a disk you play has no compression involved. This sounds nothing more then someone discussing ripping instead of a movie production flow.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Is this we are all doomed because you getting bored thinking about power failures spoiling your tranquility?

We joke but the loss of a life long passion is the loss of life itself. (That’s my quote, not someone else’s)

Despite Vilya’s claims, 100% renewable energy is not possible without HUGE sacrifices from consumers. Basically we woul be going back in time 40-50 years.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by bhampton

If I buy Physical Media and whistle that "Don't Worry Be Happy" song will that solve it?

That's what I'm trying so far.

No, but a battery storage breakthrough and solar panels that last all day long would!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Is this we are all doomed because you getting bored thinking about power failures spoiling your tranquility?

Which is more worrisome? A real and present right now pandemic or possible power rationing and outages in the unspecified future? Geez, let me ponder that awhile. The one can kill me here and now and the other may inconvenience me someday; which should I be the more concerned about?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Which is more worrisome? A real and present right now pandemic or possible power rationing and outages in the unspecified future? Geez, let me ponder that awhile. The one can kill me here and now and the other may inconvenience me someday; which should I be the more concerned about?

Without doubt, power rationing and the loss of electricity at our fingertips in our future. That bothers me way more, honestly.

Anything that would stop me enjoying movie night in the future is waaay more concerning. Like I said, what’s the point of surviving a pandemic if the life you have after that deprives you of what you love about life?