Wonder Woman Complete Collection TV Series Blu-ray July 28th 2020

[moviebuff75]

The scene seems to take place at night. Can someone with the disc let me know if:
1. The pilot has THE NEW, ORIGINAL WONDER WOMAN title screen...or just WONDER WOMAN.
2. The Douglas Cramer closing logo is there.
3. The Saul Bass WBTV closing logo is there.

[do.wayne.ClassicFilm]

Originally Posted by Alhlan Ain Ajeeba

Even though im importing this from US, and paying an arm and a leg for import fees,because amazon is only offering expensive priority international shipping at the moment. I find it truly bizarre amazon uk isn't releasing this. They released batman 66 same week as USA did. This would do decent sales,maybe not batman 66 numbers,but well enough.

Originally Posted by DawnShadow

DeepDiscount would have to be a much cheaper option for you - any reason your preference is Amazon? In my experience they package stuff just as poorly if not worse.

I ended up canceling my Wonder Woman blu-ray preorder with Amazon.com and going DeepDiscount instead. With their current site wide 15% discount, I was able to preorder Wonder Woman at $42.50 plus shipping. I had to pay tax too but still got the order in at under $49 shipped. Amazon has been slower with my orders than DD lately, glad they are having another one of their site wide 15% discounts, saved me a few dollars.

[VonterVoman]

Originally Posted by moviebuff75

The scene seems to take place at night

It doesn't really seem that way. I mean, the blue tint does make it seem like night time, but it cuts from a daylight scene at 2:35pm in Washington, DC and then after the scene posted it cuts to a night scene in Germany (where it would be night due to time zones, +5 hours), then cuts back to Paradise Island during the day with the title card "a few moments later". There is an old clock on the wall that seems to indicate it's 5:30pm, but would it be that "dark" in a tropical island? Not to mention there's no torches lit up inside. The previous remaster didn't make it look like a day for night scene at all.
There are also other scenes that get a blue tint out of nowhere during the new remaster, in clear daylight. And there are other scenes that are day for night over which they didn't "add" any blue tint over it
There are some episodes where even the white from the animated intro "comic book pages" looks blue, and some where it looks pink (and they looked white previously.
Anyway I'm nagging too much.

I don't have the discs but based on the iTunes web version the pilot doesn't have "The New, Original Wonder Woman" title, but the episodes have the Saul Bass WBTV logo. But I'll leave that to someone who has the discs to confirm.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by VonterVoman

There's no way this is how it was supposed to look like. And it also happens in the CBS seasons. Haven't seen anything like this for other 70s shows in blu-ray either.

I agree and I hate when this happens. But how much of the series is affected like this? All the shots I'm seeing are pretty colorful. Is this just a single shot with this kind of coloring?

[moviebuff75]

I believe that previous releases were taken from IPs, and this release was taken from the masters. There was probably a lot of fading going on with the elements. They aren't going to have the same exact color values. I would have to see the shows to see if they are correct. The opening titles had various amounts of fading, even when the show was new. They reused the same footage so much.

[theatom]

Originally Posted by moviebuff75

The scene seems to take place at night. Can someone with the disc let me know if:
1. The pilot has THE NEW, ORIGINAL WONDER WOMAN title screen...or just WONDER WOMAN.
2. The Douglas Cramer closing logo is there.
3. The Saul Bass WBTV closing logo is there.

Pilot has WONDER WOMAN and Douglas S Cramer.

[VonterVoman]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I agree and I hate when this happens. But how much of the series is affected like this? All the shots I'm seeing are pretty colorful. Is this just a single shot with this kind of coloring?

Not much to this extent. Some episodes barely look any different. But the Paradise Island scenes in the pilot I find quite different. And the previous remaster is not that great either, it does have some light color tint at random too, and lacks a bit of color. But I think it looks more natural at least.
All in all, there's no real consistency to the changes. Sometimes the white is toned down and sometimes it's way brighter. Sometimes there's a lot more contrast and sometimes a lot less. Sometimes the greens look the same and sometimes they are blindingly vibrant. I have watched a few episodes of Batman '66 and haven't noticed such dramatic changes to the image as Wonder Woman often has, except more vibrance and black levels a little darker.
Here are more comparison screencaps from the pilot episode. The last one I think has been improved, and looks like the treatment they gave Batman '66. The changes are a wildcard.

[Show spoiler]

[AllAboutMatt]

I'm really bummed out by what I'm seeing. I was hoping this would be a stellar release, it's a shame that there is so much random color tinting.

[VonterVoman]

I don't think it'll be a problem if you haven't watched the DVDs a few times to know what it could look like, and like I said some episodes look very normal (the second one already looks a lot better), the War Department scenes in general look better, but still... all that's left for me now is to hope for a better 4K release in 20 years (if ever)

[Benoit Blanc]

Originally Posted by Mose Harper

Looks about on par with the Mill Creek Charlie's Angels set.

I thought most of those caps looked waxy on first glance, but opening them up in another window at full size, they don't look too bad. This was a show that generally had a slicker look to it anyway.
I'll hold off any further comments till I see it in motion, but what's on display here isn't a big disappointment.

And I'm happy it's finally certain they are presented in their OAR.

Looking forward to getting the set whenever Target deigns to send it to me. Not a show I'll be binge watching, but like CA it will be nice to have this accessible for a one off watch here and there.

I have Mill Creek's release of Airwolf too, as well as Charlie's Angels. I was gonna buy the UK release of Airwolf from Fabulous (got The Incredible Hulk Complete Series and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century Complete Series from Fabulous) but they left out Season 4.

Originally Posted by VonterVoman

There's no way this is how it was supposed to look like. And it also happens in the CBS seasons. Haven't seen anything like this for other 70s shows in blu-ray either.

This reminds me of the 4K remaster of Batman '89 that I saw on iTunes. The colours on that release were way too strong and the blue tint was annoying as ****.

[moviebuff75]

Is Stella Stevens credited in the opening credits of the pilot episode? I wrote WB and told them it was missing from the digital version.

[AllAboutMatt]

Can someone post screen caps of the CBS Seasons? I'm curious to know if those look less tinted than the ABC ones.

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by VonterVoman

Looking at these screencaps the color timing is exactly the same as the web version and it's definitely DNR'd. Oh well. I think the sudden blue tint in some scenes will be the most recognizable to anyone.

I'm sad about this.

[theatom]

Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Is Stella Stevens credited in the opening credits of the pilot episode? I wrote WB and told them it was missing from the digital version.

Yes. Do you have any other credit-related questions? Maybe get them out in post.

[moviebuff75]

Thanks. That's all. I contacted WB, and they listened.

[VonterVoman]

Originally Posted by AllAboutMatt

Can someone post screen caps of the CBS Seasons? I'm curious to know if those look less tinted than the ABC ones.

Here are some, I posted a very tinted one and a more normal one from each Season (2 and 3). All scenes are in daylight. That rainy one it looks like they decided rain warranted a blue tint or something. You can see some differences in the cropping as well.

[Show spoiler]

I think on average the episodes look more like the 3rd and 4th pictures.

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the average random scene, if you have the iTunes software you could search for the show and play the 30 second previews for all the episodes. It could help.

[AllAboutMatt]

The third and fourth pictures look pretty good to me. But I still can't get over the blue tint. I'm really on the fence now.

[moviebuff75]

When you have two pictures side by side, the difference is more apparent. I don't have a problem with it. But, I will watch the entire thing before I decide.

[VonterVoman]

I have been watching it on DC Universe every week and it doesn't bother me much most of the time. Maybe I overreacted a little the very first time I saw the pilot episode on it (back in 2018) because those Paradise Island scenes really did look very different, and it rubbed me the wrong way.
DNR aside, the film dust and scratches being removed and the stock footage all cleaned up and enhanced can kinda make up for the color changes.
I still wish they had worked with more care to prevent those mishaps. Sometimes it looks like they ran an algorithm to calculate the average colors or something and just went with it for all the scenes.

[thorr]

Here is a comparison of the Blu-ray vs a high quality HDTV recording vs the DVD. They are all overlaid and aligned so you can see the cropping differences.

Blu-ray on top:


HDTV on top:


DVD on top:


HDTV on top of DVD on top of Blu-ray: