Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War

[Himmel]

Black Ops Cold War Confirms Next-Gen Features PS5 and Xbox Series X Versions Will Have

. “Both digital console versions of Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War offer upgrades, within the same console family, from PlayStation 4 to PlayStation 5 and Xbox One to Xbox Series X that will support higher framerate, hardware-based ray-tracing, shorter load times, and more,” Activision said about the plans for the next-gen versions of Black Ops Cold War.

There are a few caveats to getting those features though. If you want ray-tracing and the lower load times, it appears that for now you’ll have to get the digital edition of the game, not the physical one. You also won’t be able to take advantage of those features if you plan on playing the current-gen version of the game on the new consoles via backwards compatibility

“Both current generation versions (PlayStation 4 and Xbox One) will be playable on their respective next-generation console via backwards compatibility by downloading the game from your account’s digital library,” Activision said. “But, the game will not include any of the next-generation features, such as higher framerate, hardware-based ray-tracing, faster load times, and more.”

[NARMAK]

It literally makes ZERO sense how faster load times are locked behind a paywall when BC is using an NVME!

Activision are amongst the Top 3 slimeballs in the industry imo. EA and a toss up being Gearbox and 2K as well as Bethesda for a 3rd.

I like what somebody else said. They're making console players pay extra for the same game PC users get regardless of what their PCs could handle and when they do upgrade PC parts in whole or part, they can access those features. Faster loading? Get an SSD. Better graphics? New GPU.

Oh, not to mention its usually cheaper to buy.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

I like what somebody else said. They're making console players pay extra for the same game PC users get regardless of what their PCs could handle and when they do upgrade PC parts in whole or part, they can access those features. Faster loading? Get an SSD. Better graphics? New GPU.

Oh, not to mention its usually cheaper to buy.

And you get apologists saying ‘they don’t owe you a free update’

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

It literally makes ZERO sense how faster load times are locked behind a paywall when BC is using an NVME!

Activision are amongst the Top 3 slimeballs in the industry imo. EA and a toss up being Gearbox and 2K as well as Bethesda for a 3rd.

That sounds corrupt of Activision if that's the case, I agree.

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by Talal86

And you get apologists saying ‘they don’t owe you a free update’

Please consider it this way; the art assets for the PS5/X2 version are sitting right there in the form of the PC version, and yet Activision aren't charging PC owners a bigger price to play the game with the settings maxed out! But they ARE charging new next-gen console owners for the privilege of porting those assets to the new consoles! So who is ripping off whom?

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

Please consider it this way; the art assets for the PS5/X2 version are sitting right there in the form of the PC version, and yet Activision aren't charging PC owners a bigger price to play the game with the settings maxed out! But they ARE charging new next-gen console owners for the privilege of porting those assets to the new consoles! So who is ripping off whom?

I mean, gamers LITERALLY cannot rip off game companies. They set their prices and tell us "Like it or lump it"

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by NARMAK

I mean, gamers LITERALLY cannot rip off game companies. They set their prices and tell us "Like it or lump it"

Or they wait for the game to drop in price or even buy it second hand, meaning the game company get's either smaller return or nothing at all. The choice is still there.

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by TheWildWhelk

Or they wait for the game to drop in price or even buy it second hand, meaning the game company get's either smaller return or nothing at all. The choice is still there.

But that's no difference in terms of how say the car industry works. In fact, i'll argue it like this. Games publishers typically have now started to sell the games at the fixed price they want from retailers and then the retailers have to make the profit to RRP or take the loss.

That choice to wait is in the hands of consumers for now. What happens when things go all digital. I see games on there released years ago, available used on disk for like <£10 but somehow full RRP digitally £44.99 or higher. Borderlands 3 for example.

That's why i absolutely despise the forced move towards digital because consumer choice is going to be eroded and price fixing with the "Like it or Lump it" attitude rampant. They'll be far, far more proactive and close any VPN digital stuff down as well that we currently do. Banning your accounts and possibly Hardware being bricked.

I would say cars are dying a similar death. We all knew improvements had to be made but they are trying to force us into something before it's fair or user ready instead of targeting bigger problem areas. In gaming, this is now becoming the bloated development costs which imo are completely fabricated and lies. If the cost to make games was so, so high, how come they somehow always find fat bonuses for execs whilst firing rank & file employees en masse?

I think we're 1-2 gens away from the BS these companies are going to pull and dress it up all nice. Mark my words now. You all as gamers are gonna get gaslighted and Stockholm syndrome done to you

[Zivouhr]

Interesting points.

Even digital games can suffer from a "wait for a price drop" scenario, as I often do for PSVR games that I'm on the fence about if the price is too high. Only when that price drops to something more reasonable, do I buy it.

It's great to see Ubisoft offering games for PS5 for 59.99 and not 69.99. That's a good start. Plus the free upgrades to PS5 when those are ready. I wish they gave a release date already for those things. Cyberpunk too, which won't be available for PS5 till 2021 some time.

The first trailer for this game at Gamescom, that was just a cinematic cutscene with Ronald Regan talking at a table. Not a good demo at all. I don't know why game companies think showing a CGI trailer is a good idea. It only makes the final game look worse in comparison if the graphics can't match the quality.

[TheWildWhelk]

I'm hardcore when it comes to the price i pay for a video game; i'm almost always 'lagging behind' new releases, so it's no biggie to wait for it to drop in price. The Far Cry series, Assassins Creed from Syndicate (PC) onwards i have bought on week of release, but for Gears 5 and GTA5, i held off for the price to drop. As i have 'all 3 formats' being 1X, PC and PS4, there is always something that hits my varied pricing point. (And yes, quality optimisation is a major point as well.)

[Zivouhr]

Yes, there are way too many potentially good games to buy so that allows for careful selection and playing one game at a time while buying one game at a time, which affords time to wait for a sale price for other games on a list.

One thing I'm really surprised about these past couple years for PS4 are all of the new games being released for 39.99, 29.99 and 49.99. Some of them are lengthy, full games, while others are remasters or smaller stories.

Mafia Definitive Edition, practically a brand new game from scratch but for the story and voices probably. 39.99

Star Wars Squadrons for 2D and PSVR, 39.99.

I hope PS5 keeps this trend going for games that want to offer that nice option.

[TheWildWhelk]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Yes, there are way too many potentially good games to buy so that allows for careful selection and playing one game at a time while buying one game at a time, which affords time to wait for a sale price for other games on a list.

The idea of paying £50 for a game with a campaign i can burn through in 15 hours with no multiplayer simply isn't an option any more. Something i've discovered with re-playing some of the AC games during the pandemic is how much time can be spent with open world games, which is fantastic. The money i spend on a game directly reflects how much gaming time i'm going to get out of it.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Yes, there are way too many potentially good games to buy so that allows for careful selection and playing one game at a time while buying one game at a time, which affords time to wait for a sale price for other games on a list.

One thing I'm really surprised about these past couple years for PS4 are all of the new games being released for 39.99, 29.99 and 49.99. Some of them are lengthy, full games, while others are remasters or smaller stories.

Mafia Definitive Edition, practically a brand new game from scratch but for the story and voices probably. 39.99

Star Wars Squadrons for 2D and PSVR, 39.99.

I hope PS5 keeps this trend going for games that want to offer that nice option.

Hitman 3 also coming to VR. I think they are going to make all 3 playable in VR. Not sure how it’s going to work yet but exciting news.

Getting back to COD, this might be the first year I skip it. I will have 20 VR games to start next year with and I have 30 PS+ games to start. I simply won’t have space for COD if it’s as large a game as Modern Warfare. Also, the Black Ops series was never my Favourite. Much prefer the Modern Warfare’s. Especially 3 and the current one.

[TheWildWhelk]

I'm more excited for this one than i have been for years, as it is finally getting the Black Ops series back on track. It was never the intention for Black Ops 2 to catapult into 2025, and BOIII was 98% 'Cyber Warfare' and nothing to do with the previous games. With Jason Blundell gone from Treyarch, we can also hope there are some new top-notch creatives involved with this one.

[Himmel]

http://youtu.be/rXRQyd6_5j4

[tcripe]

theres like basically zero gameplay in that trailer

[bryanr1213]

Originally Posted by tcripe

theres like basically zero gameplay in that trailer

Please tell me that team deathmatch isnt gonna have the jet skis on armada, I feel like they want to get rid of team deathmatch and turn everything into warzone.


Plus to comment on your response alot of streamers are actually allowed to stream it today so you will be able to see alot of gameplay even though I think the sbmm matchmaking is turned off because its streamers only right now so they want to hide all the ngativity for now.

[Blu Lemmy]

I watched a couple vids from Jackfrags last night.....colour me unimpressed......it looked poor

[bryanr1213]

Originally Posted by Blu Lemmy

I watched a couple vids from Jackfrags last night.....colour me unimpressed......it looked poor

as someone who has played every year since mw2 I grow less and less interested each year since ghost, I have mw I beat and platinumed the game and played some multiplayer now I just let my 4 year old play the multiplayer.

[Talal86]

I’m only interested in the campaign, if it’s anywhere as good as Modern Warfare color me interested