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Old 09-26-2020, 07:18 PM   #181
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All sales are final, now ain't that a bi**h! If anybody agrees with those terms then they're a fool because, you're giving permission and allowing them to take advantage to rip you off, but some people just don't care. They don't mind being a sucker.
just buy what you want to buy, if you dont want it dont buy it? what is the problem?
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:32 PM   #182
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All sales are final, now ain't that a bi**h! If anybody agrees with those terms then they're a fool because, you're giving permission and allowing them to take advantage to rip you off, but some people just don't care. They don't mind being a sucker.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:35 PM   #183
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It's not theft. It's policy. Rules. That are clearly stated on their website. You even have to click a box that specifically says; " I have read and agree to the website terms and conditions" before you can finalize your order.

Their rules on Returns clearly states the following;

"Returns

All sales are final EXCEPT for defective discs (please see below).

Defective discs can be exchanged for the same title only. We will not take back titles that will not play in your player due to PAL or regional coding.

Furthermore, we are aware that many of these ‘modified’ and ‘region free’ players are very temperamental. When possible, please try the disc in another player before contacting us for a return.

Shipping costs are non-refundable.

If for any reason, a refund/return is absolutely necessary, a 15% restocking fee will apply (For Example – If you order a $100 disc, you will be charged $15 restocking fee if you return it). All refunds for any reason are in store credit only

Returns must be sent back within 15 days. Please do not send back a disc without notifying us first or it will be returned to you.

If you are sending back a defective disc DO NOT CLEAN IT OR USE A DISC ‘FIXER’ IF YOU DESTROY THE DISC USING ONE OF THESE, THE DISC IS YOURS – DEFECTIVE OR NOT. We have to return these discs to our distributors and the use of these devices or a coarse cleaning cloth, such as a paper towel, prohibits us from sending them back."

It's no different than other companies with their policies. You agree to those terms when you make the purchase; you have to otherwise you can't complete the purchase. If someone doesn't wanna be bothered to read, that's on them. So stop with the "it's theft" b/s when if anything it's more or less a contract with the buyer agreeing to their terms when making the purchase. Their terms are clearly stated in black and white. Get. Over. It.
At the end of the day, their policies don't matter... They can make up any policy they want, but if it goes against consumer law of a particular country, then they will have to take it up the arse if anyone disputes their terms and conditions and has fair argument against them
... You don't even need to speak to them to get your money back, a credit card company/bank or PayPal can make that determination on their own.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:41 PM   #184
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“Theatrical trailers, TV and radio spots for the original film as well as trailers for the entire Tremors franchise”

Are trailers ever an indication from Arrow that they also have the rights to sequels? I see that it says “the entire franchise.” I’m hoping that also means the underrated television series. It had some amusing TV spots.
I think the sequel trailers were included as extras on past disc releases of the first Tremors. Unless they were doing a box set I don't really see why they would plan to release the direct to video sequels later. Especially not the most recent entries.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:48 PM   #185
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Y’all are the reason why we can’t have nice things like this in The world? What are you crying about now that’s taken up 9 pages? Gimme a break people.
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Old 09-26-2020, 07:53 PM   #186
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At the end of the day, their policies don't matter... They can make up any policy they want, but if it goes against consumer law of a particular country, then they will have to take it up the arse if anyone disputes their terms and conditions and has fair argument against them
... You don't even need to speak to them to get your money back, a credit card company/bank or PayPal can make that determination on their own.
Diabolik is bound by US law. Their policies do matter because they have the right to have them. When you buy from Diabolik you specifically enter their contract. If it breaks another country's laws then I guess that country can go nanny state and block their customers from buying in the first place.
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Diabolik is bound by US law. Their policies do matter because they have the right to have them.When you buy from Diabolik you specifically enter their contract. If it breaks another country's laws then I guess that country can go nanny state and block their customers from buying in the first place.
And you'd be wrong... Unless you live here, you have no idea what we can and can't successfully dispute to achieve certain outcomes under our laws... Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi

Edit: It goes both ways, if they choose to sell to Australian customers, then they have to also take our rights and laws into consideration, otherwise, don't sell to us.

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And you'd be wrong... Unless you live here, you have no idea what we can and can't successfully dispute to achieve certain outcomes under our laws... Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi

Edit: It goes both ways, if they choose to sell to Australian customers, then they have to also take our rights and laws into consideration, otherwise, don't sell to us.
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Old 09-26-2020, 10:53 PM   #189
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Growing up I must have watched this 50 times with my father. We both haven’t seen it in years, it will be a blast to revisit it together in 4K!
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Old 09-26-2020, 11:17 PM   #190
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I would be all for this but seeing as I got the steelbook collection, I think i just want the 4K disc upgrade to put in the case and i'm good.
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Old 09-27-2020, 01:44 AM   #191
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And you'd be wrong... Unless you live here, you have no idea what we can and can't successfully dispute to achieve certain outcomes under our laws... Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi
Unless you live here, you have no idea what can and cannot be disputed under our laws. It works both ways, right?

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Old 09-27-2020, 01:48 AM   #192
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If this sells well I hope who ever has the rights to Tremors 2 will release it on 4K. Honestly I only like the first 2 but I’ll take a complete 4K box set of all the movies together.
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Unless you live here, you have no idea what can and cannot be disputed under our laws. It works both ways, right?

lol
In this case I do, you and a couple of members have outlined Diabolik policies and terms and conditions... Their policies and terms and conditions may be viewed as unfair and unreasonable in particular situations under our laws. If they want to sell to Australian consumers, they are agreeing to our policies and legislation to be able to trade here.


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If you buy online from an overseas business, they must comply with the consumer protection laws in their own country however the Australian Consumer Law also applies to anyone conducting business within Australia, including overseas businesses.

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All your usual consumer rights apply when you shop with an Australian online business. Those rights may also apply when you buy from an overseas online business although you might find it difficult to get a repair, replacement or refund because the business is not based in Australia.
In those instances where an Australian consumer might find it difficult to get a refund from an international seller, then that's where charging back comes into it, if you have a fair and reasonable case to present to your bank, credit card company, or PayPal... What can Diabolik do to prevent this from happening? Nothing. You seem so sure that your consumer law is the only one that matters in an online transaction between a U.S. company and an Australian consumer... Show me in your legislation where it says that everything in their terms and conditions overrules our laws, and where it's states that we have no rights, and are not able or allowed to arrange a charge back from a U.S. business?

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Old 09-27-2020, 04:35 AM   #194
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In this case I do, you and a couple of members have outlined Diabolik policies and terms and conditions... Their policies and terms and conditions may be viewed as unfair and unreasonable in particular situations under our laws. If they want to sell to Australian consumers, they are agreeing to our policies and legislation to be able to trade here.

In those instances where an Australian consumer might find it difficult to get a refund from an international seller, then that's where charging back comes into it, if you have a fair and reasonable case to present to your bank, credit card company, or PayPal... What can Diabolik do to prevent this from happening? Nothing. You seem so sure that your consumer law is the only one that matters in an online transaction between a U.S. company and an Australian consumer... Show me in your legislation where it says that everything in their terms and conditions overrules our laws, and where it's states that we have no rights, and are not able or allowed to arrange a charge back from a U.S. business?
You can keep the text wall and the things I never said nor implied.

The point was and is they have a no refund policy when placing orders, if you don't like it don't order. They have a right to that policy. It'd fall under no-refunds for change of mind which is legal in Australia as far as I know. However if you want to file a chargeback then be my guest and file a chargeback and I never said otherwise. I'm sure you wouldn't be the first abroad or even here locally to do so. Good grief.

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I'll never bother ordering from diabolik or vinegar syndrome. How they want to do business is their prerogative though.
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If this sells well I hope who ever has the rights to Tremors 2 will release it on 4K.
That would be great, but I feel like DTV films on UHD are going to be rare.

I'd be happy with just a remastered Blu from Arrow.
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You can keep the text wall and the things I never said nor implied.

The point was and is they have a no refund policy when placing orders, if you don't like it don't order. They have a right to that policy. It'd fall under no-refunds for change of mind which is legal in Australia as far as I know. However if you want to file a chargeback then be my guest and file a chargeback and I never said otherwise. I'm sure you wouldn't be the first abroad or even here locally to do so. Good grief.
I had a feeling that you'd present no facts from your countries legislation to back up your "Diabolik is bound by US law" statement, arguing that their policies and terms conditions, and U.S. laws overrides Australian laws that protect our consumers.

Sure, as I previously said - "They can make up any policy they want, however, as I have also said, if it goes against consumer law of a particular country, then their policies maybe meaningless, if anyone disputes their terms and conditions and has a fair and reasonable argument against them. The seller also has a responsibility to comply with the consumer laws of the country that are selling to, for you to try to make the claim that our rights and laws are void to the international sellers is absolutely ridiculous. You have not been able to refute this with anything you've said, therefore your argument is essentially nothing more than drivel, from someone that is merely siding with Diabolik (which isn't the first time, you are regularly involved in discussions where you take the position of defending companies) and their policies based purely on what you think and agree with... In which case, your opinion on the matter deserves to be completely disregarded.

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Defective discs can be exchanged for the same title only

If for any reason, a refund/return is absolutely necessary, a 15% restocking fee will apply (For Example – If you order a $100 disc, you will be charged $15 restocking fee if you return it). All refunds for any reason are in store credit only.
Diabolik state on their policy page that "All sales are final except for defective discs", therefore everything else is referring to their policies on how they handle an item that is defective. They are not within their rights to charge a 15% restock fee for accepting back a defective disc under Australian consumer law, companies here can do that if you are not legally entitled to a refund, such as in instances where you have simply changed your mind, but not for a the customer receiving a defective product. If Diabolik even attempted to pull that nonsense on me, the conversation would be instantly over, and I would just go straight over their head to my credit card company and reverse the full charge. Also, under Australian law we are entitled to a refund if:

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When you have a major problem with a product, you have the right to ask for your choice of a replacement or refund.
If the product is defective, and we decide that we would like a refund, we don't have to accept their "store credit only" policy, we are entitled to our money back, and again, if they tried to enforce this made up policy of theirs which Australian consumer law contradicts, then they would find out quickly how meaningless their rules really are. I don't care whether you like it or not, and think it shouldn't be possible, it is, and I certainly would do it if they ever were to stuff me around.

You were clearly arguing about more than refunds for change of mind (I addressed my views on their change of mind policy in my very first post today, go back and read it)... Your need to try and defend these companies over these sorts of things all of the time, made you rush in a debate with me, causing you to make some inaccurate statements. Anyway... Unless you have something of actual relevance to move forward with, perhaps we should leave it here... Enjoy your night.

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How strange. Three weeks ago, I watched all six Tremors movies, and the TV series.
Had no clue it would EVER come out in 4k. ANY of them! haha
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All I can say is that I wasn't expecting this and never would have expected it. Universal ignored Tremors since the DVD days and showed no interest in remastering it for Blu-Ray or theatrical releases.
Funny enough I was thinking the other day, I wonder if they will make a 4k of tremors. Lo and behold.
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What are the chances Universal will release this in the near future with upgraded sound?

Step 1: Release crappy version and make sure lots of people buy it over the next 10 years.
Step 2: Let someone else release a 4k version, put lots of bonus features on it and make sure it sells
Step 3: Release it again, this time in a boxset, with even more bonus features and DTS:X

This sounds like their master plan.
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