Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Vinegar Syndrome has been releasing slips without movies for the last year on select older releases and they'll add more to that collection in November during the next Black Friday sale.

Yes but those older releases never had slipcases to begin with. To date they have not reissued any slipcases that have gone OOP.

[goodnitesteve]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

Universal knows they can make money off the Halloween franchise. Halloween 2018 made $250 million off of a $10 million budget. Like i said before, i would be shocked if SF releases 4K's of Halloween II and Halloween III. I think Universal will release themselves.

Universal still sells II & III as well. The market may be getting smaller, but at the same time, I still think there's an audience for both releases. Universal is still going to put out their barebones every time they update their sets.

[Worship.my.wreck]

Originally Posted by TripleHBK

Vinegar Syndrome has been releasing slips without movies for the last year on select older releases and they'll add more to that collection in November during the next Black Friday sale.

I don't think VS mentioned anything about new catalog slipcovers for this upcoming Black Friday sale.

[Luke Dodge748]

Originally Posted by Worship.my.wreck

Yeah people will buy pretty much anything. I'm pretty sure there's a market for just the artwork inserts or arrow booklets as well.

Yes. I won't but Arrow blu's unless I know that it comes with the booklet. And if it's a slipcover blu I will usually wait until I find it complete. <<<Sadist

[DukeTogo84]

It's been unusually quiet for Scream/Shout these past few months, but I'm guessing all their resources went into the Friday set. I'm hoping 2021 brings us a lot of great titles as their November-December slate has left me slightly worried.

Hoping that we finally get Alligator, Deadly Friend, and the big one Alone in the Dark in 2021. Maybe we'll also finally get Dawn of the Dead...

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

It's been unusually quiet for Scream/Shout these past few months, but I'm guessing all their resources went into the Friday set. I'm hoping 2021 brings us a lot of great titles as their November-December slate has left me slightly worried.

Hoping that we finally get Alligator, Deadly Friend, and the big one Alone in the Dark in 2021. Maybe we'll also finally get Dawn of the Dead...

I too am looking forward to seeing what Scream has planned for 2021 (hopefully January announcements will be made next week). As you say, the current pandemic and the Friday set probably account for the back half of 2020, which offered very little in the way of new-to-Blu titles (especially when you consider that the two Arkoff titles were initially scheduled for earlier in the year). I am eager to see if this trend is buckled going into next year. While some 4K upgrades (both steelbooks and UHD titles) will be peppered in the line, I don't see them putting out too many UHD upgrades.

There may be some fears that Scream have 'run out' of titles. Admittedly, certain familiar avenues for them have been almost exhausted now:

- Not much Hammer left (some Warner titles if they can get them, and a handful of others from the Hammer estate)
- Not many Universal titles left (bar a few 00s titles, and perhaps a handful of CE double-dips)
- The MGM catalogue is now being mined by Scorpion, Severin and Vinegar Syndrome, so would they even bother to make another deal, especially as they've just lost the rights to loads of MGM titles?

That said, there are still numerous options for them, business-sense and materials permitting:

- Paramount (no doubt the current deal still has a few titles left to reveal, including Dead Zone)
- Warner Bros
- Sony (still a fair few candidates here)
- Corman (we've seen them start to mine this, but let's hope they also go beyond limited edition upgrades of previous releases)
- Arkoff AIP (still a few possibilities here)

There may also be some other catalogues they've snapped up or licenced, not to mention independent deals. Hopefully good things are in store for next year.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

It's been unusually quiet for Scream/Shout these past few months, but I'm guessing all their resources went into the Friday set. I'm hoping 2021 brings us a lot of great titles as their November-December slate has left me slightly worried.

Hoping that we finally get Alligator, Deadly Friend, and the big one Alone in the Dark in 2021. Maybe we'll also finally get Dawn of the Dead...

All titles I'd be down for. And that rumored Dead Zone release...

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

I too am looking forward to seeing what Scream has planned for 2021 (hopefully January announcements will be made next week). As you say, the current pandemic and the Friday set probably account for the back half of 2020, which offered very little in the way of new-to-Blu titles (especially when you consider that the two Arkoff titles were initially scheduled for earlier in the year). I am eager to see if this trend is buckled going into next year. While some 4K upgrades (both steelbooks and UHD titles) will be peppered in the line, I don't see them putting out too many UHD upgrades.

There may be some fears that Scream have 'run out' of titles. Admittedly, certain familiar avenues for them have been almost exhausted now:

- Not much Hammer left (some Warner titles if they can get them, and a handful of others from the Hammer estate)
- Not many Universal titles left (bar a few 00s titles, and perhaps a handful of CE double-dips)
- The MGM catalogue is now being mined by Scorpion, Severin and Vinegar Syndrome, so would they even bother to make another deal, especially as they've just lost the rights to loads of MGM titles?

That said, there are still numerous options for them, business-sense and materials permitting:

- Paramount (no doubt the current deal still has a few titles left to reveal, including Dead Zone)
- Warner Bros
- Sony (still a fair few candidates here)
- Corman (we've seen them start to mine this, but let's hope they also go beyond limited edition upgrades of previous releases)
- Arkoff AIP (still a few possibilities here)

There may also be some other catalogues they've snapped up or licenced, not to mention independent deals. Hopefully good things are in store for next year.

I feel as though things are a bit more dependent on Shout now. There are a lot of dramas and comedies that need releases and that's the obvious line for things to go to.
Speaking of Paramount, I'll say it so it's out in the living ether (again, again, again) Scream needs to get and release Raimi's last two to release: A Simple Plan and The Gift.
And now that I think of it, maybe a deal could be worked out with Lionsgate since they have been taking their sweet time with releases, as some movies stay stuck in their vault.

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

It's been unusually quiet for Scream/Shout these past few months, but I'm guessing all their resources went into the Friday set. I'm hoping 2021 brings us a lot of great titles as their November-December slate has left me slightly worried.

Hoping that we finally get Alligator, Deadly Friend, and the big one Alone in the Dark in 2021. Maybe we'll also finally get Dawn of the Dead...

I imported a copy of the Spanish "grey market" release of Deadly Friend (along with Gladiator, the 1992 boxing flick) and they arrived a couple of weeks ago. The PQ on DF leaves a lot to be desired but it'll tide me over until a legit US release comes along (if ever). There are LOTS of movies that have still not been released on Blu-ray, only problem is most are tied up with the major studios. Scream's deal with Warner appears to have been a very limited one and, while Paramount have softened their anti-Blu-ray stance this year, it remains to be seen how far their newfound hospitality will extend.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

And now that I think of it, maybe a deal could be worked out with Lionsgate since they have been taking their sweet time with releases, as some movies stay stuck in their vault.

Yeah, it would be great if Shout could get a deal with Lionsgate. It's better than those films being forgotten and collecting dust.

[LyMoula]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

I too am looking forward to seeing what Scream has planned for 2021 (hopefully January announcements will be made next week). As you say, the current pandemic and the Friday set probably account for the back half of 2020, which offered very little in the way of new-to-Blu titles (especially when you consider that the two Arkoff titles were initially scheduled for earlier in the year). I am eager to see if this trend is buckled going into next year. While some 4K upgrades (both steelbooks and UHD titles) will be peppered in the line, I don't see them putting out too many UHD upgrades.

There may be some fears that Scream have 'run out' of titles. Admittedly, certain familiar avenues for them have been almost exhausted now:

- Not much Hammer left (some Warner titles if they can get them, and a handful of others from the Hammer estate)
- Not many Universal titles left (bar a few 00s titles, and perhaps a handful of CE double-dips)
- The MGM catalogue is now being mined by Scorpion, Severin and Vinegar Syndrome, so would they even bother to make another deal, especially as they've just lost the rights to loads of MGM titles?

That said, there are still numerous options for them, business-sense and materials permitting:

- Paramount (no doubt the current deal still has a few titles left to reveal, including Dead Zone)
- Warner Bros
- Sony (still a fair few candidates here)
- Corman (we've seen them start to mine this, but let's hope they also go beyond limited edition upgrades of previous releases)
- Arkoff AIP (still a few possibilities here)

There may also be some other catalogues they've snapped up or licenced, not to mention independent deals. Hopefully good things are in store for next year.

Paramount: In addition to The Dead Zone which I agree is probably a lock, wouldn't be shocked to see a Collector's Edition of Sleepy Hollow as well. The title in question here, due to Mann allegedly hating the film, is The Keep. I could see them doing that if Mann had softened on his views towards it.

Warner: There's still a lot to mine from this deal even if, based on sales of previous titles i.e. Val Lewton, indicate they will probably be sticking to the more recent fare. We still have FearDotCom, Gothika, House Of Wax, The Reaping, Orphan and maybe even a Collector's Edition of The Lost Boys or The Shining.

Who owns the 2006 Black X-Mas remake? Was it Dimension? Who could put this film out? I'd love to see SF tackle it if possible.

[BarnDoor]

Another possibility discussed already - and admittedly speculative at this stage - is that SF gain access to Miramax titles via Paramount, who are now in charge of distributing the catalogue.

With Paramount simply re-releasing many Miramax releases formerly distributed by Echo Bridge and Lionsgate, it's difficult to know how amenable they'd be to SF's overtures. Are they content to simply make a cheap profit from existing Miramax releases, or is the move indicative of a company who have no real plans or care for the Miramax catalogue, and so would be willing to sub-licence to SF, who seem to be ahead of all other labels (with the possible exception of Criterion now) when it comes to licencing from Paramount.

Even if Paramount are amenable, it might be that they keep hold of something like Scream, which would be unfortunate as that in particular is crying out for a good release.

[SonnybytheSea]

Originally Posted by LyMoula

Paramount: In addition to The Dead Zone which I agree is probably a lock, wouldn't be shocked to see a Collector's Edition of Sleepy Hollow as well. The title in question here, due to Mann allegedly hating the film, is The Keep. I could see them doing that if Mann had softened on his views towards it.

Warner: There's still a lot to mine from this deal even if, based on sales of previous titles i.e. Val Lewton, indicate they will probably be sticking to the more recent fare. We still have FearDotCom, Gothika, House Of Wax, The Reaping, Orphan and maybe even a Collector's Edition of The Lost Boys or The Shining.

Who owns the 2006 Black X-Mas remake? Was it Dimension? Who could put this film out? I'd love to see SF tackle it if possible.

I'm sure most of what you've mentioned will come from SF down the line, except The Shining (Warner will never give that up!) and The Keep, Paramount might release a barebones edition themselves eventually!
Apparently Kino had The Keep for awhile and Mann was willing to make a Director's Cut but it turned out the deleted footage was lost so they scrapped the whole thing. I'm surprised that the footage is lost since most of it ended up in the TV-version which is floating around online (It's got to be somewhere!!) So Mann is obviously willing to give The Keep another try as long as he can pull off a Coppola remix....
I do think SF will go hard on Paramount for the Miramax/Dimension Library and Black X-Mas (2006) would be one of the first out of the gate and probably a rerelease of the Halloween Set......

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by SonnybytheSea

Apparently Kino had The Keep for awhile and Mann was willing to make a Director's Cut but it turned out the deleted footage was lost so they scrapped the whole thing. I'm surprised that the footage is lost since most of it ended up in the TV-version which is floating around online (It's got to be somewhere!!) So Mann is obviously willing to give The Keep another try

I wasn't aware of this tidbit. I knew that Kino scrapped plans at the last minute but I never saw the part about Mann being willing to do a Director's Cut. Up until now my impression was that Mann wanted nothing to do with the film

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

I wasn't aware of this tidbit. I knew that Kino scrapped plans at the last minute but I never saw the part about Mann being willing to do a Director's Cut. Up until now my impression was that Mann wanted nothing to do with the film

That’s what I’ve heard. I thought it was Mann that stopped the Blu. So I’m curious where the info about Mann wanting to do a Director’s Cut come from.

[SonnybytheSea]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

I wasn't aware of this tidbit. I knew that Kino scrapped plans at the last minute but I never saw the part about Mann being willing to do a Director's Cut. Up until now my impression was that Mann wanted nothing to do with the film

Originally Posted by Gacivory

That’s what I’ve heard. I thought it was Mann that stopped the Blu. So I’m curious where the info about Mann wanting to do a Director’s Cut come from.

It was on the Kino thread a while back, one of the Kino Insiders went into a bit of details about the canceled Blu.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by SonnybytheSea

It was on the Kino thread a while back, one of the Kino Insiders went into a bit of details about the canceled Blu.

I think you’re misremembering. Here’s a thread with a video where Mann says there’s no materials to make a new cut. Another person talked about approaching Mann for a release from Anchor Bay, but Mann turning him down.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...he+keep&page=2

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

I imported a copy of the Spanish "grey market" release of Deadly Friend (along with Gladiator, the 1992 boxing flick) and they arrived a couple of weeks ago. The PQ on DF leaves a lot to be desired but it'll tide me over until a legit US release comes along (if ever). There are LOTS of movies that have still not been released on Blu-ray, only problem is most are tied up with the major studios. Scream's deal with Warner appears to have been a very limited one and, while Paramount have softened their anti-Blu-ray stance this year, it remains to be seen how far their newfound hospitality will extend.

Is Deadly Friend a pressed disc? I’ve been wanting to get a few of these Spanish Blu-rays, especially Fright Night Part II.

[SonnybytheSea]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I think you’re misremembering. Here’s a thread with a video where Mann says there’s no materials to make a new cut. Another person talked about approaching Mann for a release from Anchor Bay, but Mann turning him down.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...he+keep&page=2

How is any of that, me misremembering?
I referred to comments on the Kino thread by KL Insider who would know more about what went down when Kino Lorber had the rights to the film. If Anchor Bay had made an attempt years earlier and Mann had turned them down, it doesn't mean my comments are wrong.

Here's the post your referencing:

Originally Posted by ditcin

It really isn't Paramount, it's Mann. When I was with Anchor Bay I had suggested THE KEEP. They approached Paramount and I approached Mann's office. I was turned down by Mann. Years later I was contacted by a person who was making a documentary on the film and needed a print for screen he was planning. At the screening there were going to be cast members and some production crew. This screening was a way to get money to pay for a restoration. I got him a print from a friend at Paramount and tried again to contact Mann to see if he could attend - he said "No".
Although as Mann has stated the special effects person died there is a lot of footage that has been edited together and appeared - all of the end of the film. CGI has advanced so much other pieces can be combined to make a finished version closer to, if exactly, what was originally planed.
Mann has stood in the way to even help the restoration of this film. He has no concern for the film and even almost a weird hate for it.
I have had a link to the person who made the documentary on my site for a while to aid him.
It's disgusting really that Mann made something that can be given a new life, and something to be remembered for. Meanwhile he continues to make films easily forgettable and financial failures.

In no way are they talking about a Director's Cut, they talk about a restoration of the Theatrical film, which we all know Mann despised!

[Member-682067]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

I feel as though things are a bit more dependent on Shout now. There are a lot of dramas and comedies that need releases and that's the obvious line for things to go to.
Speaking of Paramount, I'll say it so it's out in the living ether (again, again, again) Scream needs to get and release Raimi's last two to release: [B]A Simple Plan and The Gift.[/B]
And now that I think of it, maybe a deal could be worked out with Lionsgate since they have been taking their sweet time with releases, as some movies stay stuck in their vault.

As much as I appreciate 'A Simple Plan', I am not sure if it or 'The Gift' are the types of movies they would pick to release. They're kind of down-to-earth thrillers.

Although, they are releasing Dave Franco's terrific 'The Rental' which is a thriller and not a 'horror' movie per se.

(Can't wait for the making of featurette for it. Franco's directing style has a kind of David Fincher chilliness to it. There's not a wasted shot in the whole movie.)

One series that would be kind of cool to get as a boxed set is the Children of The Corn series. If they released it with each movie getting it's own box and artwork, I'd probably pre-order it day one. I think there's a rights issue with several of the movies, that could prevent it from happening.