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Old 10-04-2020, 02:48 PM   #301
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I actually think she may be a red herring.
Could have been someone specific that picked her up.

[Show spoiler]Also since they showed some of Black Noir's face I assume he is not a clone of Homelander like in the comics?
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Old 10-04-2020, 02:55 PM   #302
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Really enjoying the show but the last episodes politics were a bit too on the nose. I don't mind a little here and there but some subtlety goes along way. I miss when television was escapism. Would be a shame to see this show go the way of Star Trek with awful script writing like Discovery. Implementing "orange man bad" stuff for example just badly dates the TV show. It's cringe worthy in 2020, imagine how eye rolling it'd be in 2030/40.

They're going for any general despotic fascist power structure and how people can become wrapped up in the fervor of fear and hate and fall victim to it. That you think they are only talking about the present is a bit laughable. The comic was out before 2016.
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Old 10-04-2020, 02:57 PM   #303
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Could have been someone specific that picked her up.

[Show spoiler]Also since they showed some of Black Noir's face I assume he is not a clone of Homelander like in the comics?

Yup, again this show is not subtle. They wouldn't just feature a random psycho superhero who can squish people with her mind without going somewhere with it.
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Old 10-04-2020, 02:58 PM   #304
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They're going for any general despotic fascist power structure and how people can become wrapped up in the fervor of fear and hate and fall victim to it. That you think they are only talking about the present is a bit laughable. The comic was out before 2016.
It is also nothing new in comics, they took plenty of shots at Nixon.
Captain America was going to quit in protest over watergate. Steve Englehart was not concerned how it would like in 10 or 20 years, it was important then and is so now.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:00 PM   #305
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It is also nothing new in comics, they took plenty of shots at Nixon.

Understandably. The guy was Looney Tunes. Now, we've come full circle. This country is not immune.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:05 PM   #306
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So if they are actors or sports people they should just shut up and entertain you?

They aren't changing anyones' minds. They're just having a circle jerk. It must be in their contracts.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:06 PM   #307
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Understandably. The guy was Looney Tunes. Now, we've come full circle. This country is not immune.
Yes and if something like this happens again, they should show it as they see it and not hide from it and pretend these things would not affect the characters.

If people are this sensitive to this stuff shows and movies like this and Watchmen are not for them. The writers are making very clear statements about the world they live in. To pretend this is something new is pretty strange though.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:08 PM   #308
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They aren't changing anyones' minds. They're just having a circle jerk. It must be in their contracts.
Then why let it bother you? If they are not changing anyone's minds, and are doing it for their own benefit they are easy to ignore right?
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:13 PM   #309
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Then why let it bother you? If they are not changing anyone's minds, and are doing it for their own benefit they are easy to ignore right?

Because they are doing it (in the show) to specifically annoy people that aren't like them. I would think it would be easier for you to ignore me.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:14 PM   #310
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Because they are doing it (in the show) to specifically annoy people that aren't like them. I would think it would be easier for you to ignore me.
Get ready cause it is only going to get worse.
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Because they are doing it (in the show) to specifically annoy people that aren't like them. I would think it would be easier for you to ignore me.

They're only annoying racist fascists. Stormfront is a Nazi and Homelander is a raving psycho with mommy issues. If that's your thing, you would be annoyed.
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They're only annoying racist fascists. Stormfront is a Nazi and Homelander is a raving psycho with mommy issues. If that's your thing, you would be annoyed.
Mommy issues and a God complex.
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Mommy issues and a God complex.

But he also dreams about just going off on people and slaughtering them en masse.
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But he also dreams about just going off on people and slaughtering them en masse.
Yes because he think he is a god. What does a god do when his "people" do not conform?
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They're only annoying racist fascists. Stormfront is a Nazi and Homelander is a raving psycho with mommy issues. If that's your thing, you would be annoyed.

Equating that to republicans is the annoying part. But if you think everyone who isn't a socialist is a racist fascist, then of course you are cheering it.
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Old 10-04-2020, 03:45 PM   #316
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They're only annoying racist fascists. Stormfront is a Nazi and Homelander is a raving psycho with mommy issues. If that's your thing, you would be annoyed.
Lets move on before the thread gets closed.
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They're going for any general despotic fascist power structure and how people can become wrapped up in the fervor of fear and hate and fall victim to it. That you think they are only talking about the present is a bit laughable. The comic was out before 2016.
Yet it’s extremely relevant today. Those who are offended obviously voted for you-know-who.

I fell out of my chair when I read about the innernets having a meltdown over Captain America being antifa. Like, dude, are you not aware of his origin story?!
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Equating that to republicans is the annoying part. But if you think everyone who isn't a socialist is a racist fascist, then of course you are cheering it.
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Yeah he needs to just walk away.
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Yet it’s extremely relevant today. Those who are offended obviously voted for you-know-who.

I fell out of my chair when I read about the innernets having a meltdown over Captain America being antifa. Like, dude, are you not aware of his origin story?!
People see what they want to see. Same with Star Trek and Star Wars. If they are seeing fingers being pointing at them, it is a problem with them not the show or movie.
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