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Old 10-04-2020, 04:25 PM   #321
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Yeah he needs to just walk away.

You both could have also walked away but, like the show, you won't.
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Anyway back to the show. Interested to find out how man patients escaped.
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Is it on the nose though? The super terrorist plot and Nazi links are taken directly from the comic and was well before Trump. If anything Ennis was reflecting on a post 9/11 America. The fact it's so on point now is just kind of sad and frightening.

Amazon recently put up their adaptation of Utopia. It was made before anyone even heard of COVID but couldn't be more on point with it's deep state pandemic storyline and yet the parallel with real world events is total coincidence and another case of life imitating art. The show is shite though.
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Is it on the nose though? The super terrorist plot and Nazi links are taken directly from the comic and was well before Trump. If anything Ennis was reflecting on a post 9/11 America. The fact it's so on point now is just kind of sad and frightening.

Amazon recently put up their adaptation of Utopia. It was made before anyone even heard of COVID but couldn't be more on point with it's deep state pandemic storyline and yet the parallel with real world events is total coincidence and another case of life imitating art. The show is shite though.
There were complaints when the Hand Maidens Tale was released. That says it all.
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Old 10-05-2020, 12:27 AM   #325
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Could have been someone specific that picked her up.

[Show spoiler]Also since they showed some of Black Noir's face I assume he is not a clone of Homelander like in the comics?
I was surprised by that spoiler! I wonder who he is then.
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I was surprised by that spoiler! I wonder who he is then.
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Old 10-05-2020, 03:16 AM   #328
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I was surprised by that spoiler! I wonder who he is then.

They showed all of his face in one of the aftershows. Definitely not a Homelander clone.
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Old 10-05-2020, 03:20 AM   #329
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Could have been someone specific that picked her up.

[Show spoiler]Also since they showed some of Black Noir's face I assume he is not a clone of Homelander like in the comics?
[Show spoiler]Clones don't always need to look the same, just ask Mew and Mewtwo.
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Old 10-05-2020, 01:24 PM   #330
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They showed all of his face in one of the aftershows. Definitely not a Homelander clone.


Showing the actors face means nothing, we have always known who plays the part. Do you know how to use spoiler tags?
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I was surprised by that spoiler! I wonder who he is then.
They were hiding his face for a reason, probably as a swerve for the comic readers.
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[Show spoiler]Clones don't always need to look the same, just ask Mew and Mewtwo.

[Show spoiler]Yes but in the comics some of the stuff blamed on Homelander was Black Noir. He was created to take out Homelander and then replace him.
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Is it on the nose though? The super terrorist plot and Nazi links are taken directly from the comic and was well before Trump. If anything Ennis was reflecting on a post 9/11 America. The fact it's so on point now is just kind of sad and frightening.

Amazon recently put up their adaptation of Utopia. It was made before anyone even heard of COVID but couldn't be more on point with it's deep state pandemic storyline and yet the parallel with real world events is total coincidence and another case of life imitating art. The show is shite though.
If it's not on point, it's a pretty good coincidence. TV has been constantly bombarding people with this sort of thing for a few years now. It only seems naturally that folks will get sick of seeing it. I found it amusing personally BUT it could easily be looked at as a 2020 Trump thing. I'm not fond of dating things like that.

It was still a fun episode. Though, I'm starting to think Hughie has run his course as a character and needs to go. He's become such a whiny fool.
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Showing the actors face means nothing, we have always known who plays the part. Do you know how to use spoiler tags?

Sure, when there is a spoiler, I'll use them.
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If it's not on point, it's a pretty good coincidence. TV has been constantly bombarding people with this sort of thing for a few years now. It only seems naturally that folks will get sick of seeing it. I found it amusing personally BUT it could easily be looked at as a 2020 Trump thing. I'm not fond of dating things like that.

It was still a fun episode. Though, I'm starting to think Hughie has run his course as a character and needs to go. He's become such a whiny fool.

Hughie is just there to "center" the characters and bring them back from the brink of madness. He's the "normal" one.
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Hughie is just there to "center" the characters and bring them back from the brink of madness. He's the "normal" one.
Hughie is the viewer. We are seeing things through his eyes.
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If it's not on point, it's a pretty good coincidence. TV has been constantly bombarding people with this sort of thing for a few years now. It only seems naturally that folks will get sick of seeing it. I found it amusing personally BUT it could easily be looked at as a 2020 Trump thing. I'm not fond of dating things like that.

It was still a fun episode. Though, I'm starting to think Hughie has run his course as a character and needs to go. He's become such a whiny fool.
I just watched all of DS9 and it had similar themes. It is topical and easy to reference. The situation has not changed just the faces of the people involved in it.
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Hughie is the viewer. We are seeing things through his eyes.

That too.
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If it's not on point, it's a pretty good coincidence. TV has been constantly bombarding people with this sort of thing for a few years now. It only seems naturally that folks will get sick of seeing it. I found it amusing personally BUT it could easily be looked at as a 2020 Trump thing. I'm not fond of dating things like that.

It was still a fun episode. Though, I'm starting to think Hughie has run his course as a character and needs to go. He's become such a whiny fool.
These themes are not limited to being a "2020 Trump thing". Fascism is constantly trying to rear it's ugly head. I grew up surrounded by white-supremist scumbags during the 80s and 90s and there's no way it began just then. These themes have been relevant long before Trump and will remain so long after, unfortunately.
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These themes are not limited to being a "2020 Trump thing". Fascism is constantly trying to rear it's ugly head. I grew up surrounded by white-supremist scumbags during the 80s and 90s and there's no way it began just then. These themes have been relevant long before Trump and will remain so long after, unfortunately.

Evil has come in many forms throughout the centuries, so it shows up in our popular culture and entertainment. Different times, different faces, but the same crap.
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