New Fist of Fury - 88 Films - November 23rd 2020 - Page 8 - Blu-ray Forum

Killer Meteor · 12-04-2020, 10:55 AM

It's funny seeing that the Japanese dialogue when accurately translated by the new subtitles doesn't bare much resemblance to what the characters translate it as.

So one of the special agents asks Okumura in Japanese how his work is getting on, then when Okumura translates for the police chief (yes, the camp qusling is NOT an interpreter for once!), he says he was asked about the trouble posed by the martial arts schools!

chen lung · 12-04-2020, 10:59 AM

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(yes, the camp qusling is NOT an interpreter for once!),

He would make a fairly seamless replacement host on one of Bruce Forsyth's game shows.

"Hey, hey, hey! Hold it! Hooold it!"

Killer Meteor · 12-04-2020, 12:34 PM

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He would make a fairly seamless replacement host on one of Bruce Forsyth's game shows.

"Hey, hey, hey! Hold it! Hooold it!"

That finger-nails on a chalkboard Melvyn Hayes/John Fielder style voice is at least appropiate for once - too often one heres it coming out of Lung Fei or Hwang Jang Lee!

Killer Meteor · 12-04-2020, 09:55 PM

Watching it again, I just realised we never find out who the traitor is who tips the Japanese off a) to the rebel arriving from Shanghai, and b) who alerts them that the Jing Wu school is harbouring rebels. For that matter, who organised the assasination attempt on Okumura and for what purpose? Is he in charge of the town (both the captain and the general seem to defer to him) or just a local karate bully boy?

Too many characters and subplots, but no resolutions!

chen lung · 12-04-2020, 10:36 PM

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Too many characters and subplots, but no resolutions!

Well, I never!

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the film is 5/10 at best.

Killer Meteor
Former PR for Lo Wei Motion Picture Co.

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Another music cue from NFOF...the music when Lo Wei goes to meet Nora is an old library cue that was the title music for the Boris Karloff Mexican opus The Snake People.

Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!

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when he is competing with some especially shreiky opera

Yeah, not my idea of ASMR.

Killer Meteor · 12-04-2020, 10:58 PM

88 Films, any chance of KILLER METEORS?

Killer Meteor · 12-04-2020, 11:01 PM

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Well, I never!

Killer Meteor
Former PR for Lo Wei Motion Picture Co.

Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!

Yeah, not my idea of ASMR.

Looks like I gave it 4/10 once, so it's gone up in my view! - https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/for...hp?f=19&t=6736

OldPangYau · 12-05-2020, 02:15 AM

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Next time there had better be a three-way commentary! Kung Fu-PangYau-Meteor!

Funny enough, Mike Leeder tweeted about getting me, him, Arne, and KF Bob on a four way commentary... and he suggested Fantasy Mission Force. I think it would just turn into RiffTrax at that point

Killer Meteor · 12-05-2020, 08:55 AM

I wouldn't say no to a BD of Fantasy Mission Force!

Or Island of Fire for that matter - rewatched the HKL last night and thoroughly enjoyed it.

whiphero · 12-05-2020, 05:14 PM

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88 Films, any chance of KILLER METEORS?

While not essential, I'd still pick it up. However I want Magnificent Bodyguards and Half a Loaf of Kung Fu (which to my knowledge has yet to see an English friendly release in widescreen) first.

whiphero · 12-05-2020, 05:24 PM

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I wouldn't say no to a BD of Fantasy Mission Force!

Or Island of Fire for that matter - rewatched the HKL last night and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Yep, I'd take those as well. I imagine there is a good chance for Island on Fire given the fairly recent release by Koch Media.

I would also like to see Twin Dragons and Police Story 3, but I fear that might be hoping for a miracle. Hmm, could there be a chance of Who Am I on a limited run?

OldPangYau · 12-05-2020, 08:43 PM

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While not essential, I'd still pick it up. However I want Magnificent Bodyguards and Half a Loaf of Kung Fu (which to my knowledge has yet to see an English friendly release in widescreen) first.

Magnificent Bodyguards would be interesting, but I would love to see it get a 3D blu-ray treatment, as well as "old school" blue/red anaglyph style and a standard 2D version. I actually have the Japanese 3D laserdisc which is a bit rough, lol.

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I would also like to see Twin Dragons and Police Story 3, but I fear that might be hoping for a miracle.

But 88 already released Miracles.

Joking aside, I'm not sure what the status of Twin Dragons is... seems to be a Fortune Star title (don't see why it wouldn't be), but that one seems to get lost in the shuffle of JC's early 90s films. Police Story 3 may come down to the never ending red tape from Miramax.

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Hmm, could there be a chance of Who Am I on a limited run?

This one also seems to have weird rights issues... stuck somewhere between Sony and Warner Brothers, AFAIK.

Killer Meteor · 12-11-2020, 03:54 PM

I'm starting to wonder if Jackie was behind the chopping down for the Cantonese version - not only has all of Lo Wei's scene gone despite him still being in the cast-list, but the shots comparing Jackie to Bruce Lee have all vanished too!

chen lung · 12-11-2020, 04:02 PM

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Joking aside, I'm not sure what the status of Twin Dragons is... seems to be a Fortune Star title (don't see why it wouldn't be), but that one seems to get lost in the shuffle of JC's early 90s films.

It went back to HKFDG (at least for a decade now), though I don’t know what the situation is with territories.

OldPangYau · 12-11-2020, 05:13 PM

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It went back to HKFDG (at least for a decade now), though I don’t know what the situation is with territories.

I had a feeling that's why that one seemed to be an odd man out... All the hands involved in the making of it and such.

Pochacco · 12-11-2020, 06:14 PM

I read sometime ago prior to the release of Who Am I that they shot lengthy scenes for the movie and that it was scaled back. It would be interesting to see what JC would have added and whether the film still exists for there to be a more complete version made available.

ChanKongSang · 12-11-2020, 06:29 PM

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I read sometime ago prior to the release of Who Am I that they shot lengthy scenes for the movie and that it was scaled back. It would be interesting to see what JC would have added and whether the film still exists for there to be a more complete version made available.

At one point they toyed with the idea of releasing WAI pt1 and pt2 because they shot so much in Africa but scrapped that plan eventually. As much as I'd love to see more stuff, I know that Jackie is against showing longer cuts because a lot of that stuff landed on the cutting room floor for a reason. From that point of view, HK cuts are technically Jackie's director's cuts.

Owenjohnston · 12-12-2020, 10:55 AM

Never seen new fist of fury but it's on my xmas list.
Is it a remake of fist of fury or a sequel? Since Jackie was in the original as a student, it would work as a sequel

chen lung · 12-12-2020, 10:57 AM

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Never seen new fist of fury but it's on my xmas list.
Is it a remake of fist of fury or a sequel? Since Jackie was in the original as a student, it would work as a sequel

Jackie just happened to be an extra in the original (unrelated to his character in this sequel).

ChanKongSang · 12-12-2020, 11:17 AM

I gave New Fist of Fury a spin last weekend and I was actually positively surprised how good it was!

I watched it years ago and didn't enjoy it but now, with the restored picture and correct subtitles, I really had fun watching it. It really helped knowing more of the background to the film and the booklet was a great source of information.

I would say that in terms of the storyline, it's probably one of the better Lo Wei efforts with Jackie. Just don't expect wall to wall fighting because the film takes its time to unfold and give weight to all elements of the plot. I watched the original, long cut and it nicely plays as drama building up to Ah Lung's transformation into someone who wants to stand up against the Japanese oppression. Nice little nods to the first film like Ah Lung stealing Bruce's nunchakus but nothing over the top. Chen Sing was very impressive as a baddie and the final fight had some really cool moments. And to top all of that Brandon's and Kung Fu Bob's commentary is the bomb! Thanks 88!

12-04-2020, 10:55 AM	#141
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	It's funny seeing that the Japanese dialogue when accurately translated by the new subtitles doesn't bare much resemblance to what the characters translate it as. So one of the special agents asks Okumura in Japanese how his work is getting on, then when Okumura translates for the police chief (yes, the camp qusling is NOT an interpreter for once!), he says he was asked about the trouble posed by the martial arts schools!

12-04-2020, 09:55 PM	#144
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Watching it again, I just realised we never find out who the traitor is who tips the Japanese off a) to the rebel arriving from Shanghai, and b) who alerts them that the Jing Wu school is harbouring rebels. For that matter, who organised the assasination attempt on Okumura and for what purpose? Is he in charge of the town (both the captain and the general seem to defer to him) or just a local karate bully boy? Too many characters and subplots, but no resolutions!

12-04-2020, 10:58 PM	#146
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	88 Films, any chance of KILLER METEORS?

12-05-2020, 08:55 AM	#149
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	I wouldn't say no to a BD of Fantasy Mission Force! Or Island of Fire for that matter - rewatched the HKL last night and thoroughly enjoyed it.

12-11-2020, 03:54 PM	#153
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	I'm starting to wonder if Jackie was behind the chopping down for the Cantonese version - not only has all of Lo Wei's scene gone despite him still being in the cast-list, but the shots comparing Jackie to Bruce Lee have all vanished too!

12-11-2020, 06:14 PM	#156
Pochacco Senior Member Member since:Nov 2020 Location:London Blu-ray collection:77 DVD collection:17	I read sometime ago prior to the release of Who Am I that they shot lengthy scenes for the movie and that it was scaled back. It would be interesting to see what JC would have added and whether the film still exists for there to be a more complete version made available.

12-12-2020, 10:55 AM	#158
Owenjohnston Special Member Member since:Oct 2016 Location:Belfast, UK	Never seen new fist of fury but it's on my xmas list. Is it a remake of fist of fury or a sequel? Since Jackie was in the original as a student, it would work as a sequel

12-12-2020, 11:17 AM	#160
ChanKongSang Member Member since:Mar 2020 Location:UK	I gave New Fist of Fury a spin last weekend and I was actually positively surprised how good it was! I watched it years ago and didn't enjoy it but now, with the restored picture and correct subtitles, I really had fun watching it. It really helped knowing more of the background to the film and the booklet was a great source of information. I would say that in terms of the storyline, it's probably one of the better Lo Wei efforts with Jackie. Just don't expect wall to wall fighting because the film takes its time to unfold and give weight to all elements of the plot. I watched the original, long cut and it nicely plays as drama building up to Ah Lung's transformation into someone who wants to stand up against the Japanese oppression. Nice little nods to the first film like Ah Lung stealing Bruce's nunchakus but nothing over the top. Chen Sing was very impressive as a baddie and the final fight had some really cool moments. And to top all of that Brandon's and Kung Fu Bob's commentary is the bomb! Thanks 88!

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