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Old 12-08-2020, 02:09 AM   #1
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So? There is nothing immoral about it. I don't know why people bring up the fact that you only own a license as if it makes any practical difference. Practically, that copy of the movie is mine. The DMCA doesn't impact what I am doing. There are plenty of laws I don't agree with.

All discs degrade. Some quicker than others. Besides, other things can happen, like natural disasters, accidents or theft.

I also rip my discs because every other one freezes at least once when using my player. I never have to deal with that when I'm using my computer. Another reason is that my cabinet is so full that I now have to place movies on top of and in front of each other, which makes searching for them much more tedious than just typing the title into the Windows search box. My apartment is too small for another cabinet.

Navigation is also far quicker and simpler with MKV files.

A pretty substantial number of users here post screenshots taken from their own rips, so it seems the site doesn't care much.
Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.

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Old 12-08-2020, 03:52 AM   #2
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Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.
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US Blu-ray Sales Decline In 2020





"For the last decade physical media sales, read plastic discs, have continued to decline. Ranging from -5% in 2012 to -18% in 2019. The even more startling news is that disc sales are down almost 23% relative to 2019 in the first quarter of 2020. Clearly one has to assume that with COVID severely impacting the production of any new movies and the on-going re-release on 4K of many older movies, that there are very few big new releases arriving on Blu-ray in Q1 & Q2 2020. Well actually any quarter this year!"

https://fromvinyltoplastic.com/us-bl...cline-in-2020/
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Old 12-08-2020, 04:21 AM   #4
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US Blu-ray Sales Decline In 2020





"For the last decade physical media sales, read plastic discs, have continued to decline. Ranging from -5% in 2012 to -18% in 2019. The even more startling news is that disc sales are down almost 23% relative to 2019 in the first quarter of 2020. Clearly one has to assume that with COVID severely impacting the production of any new movies and the on-going re-release on 4K of many older movies, that there are very few big new releases arriving on Blu-ray in Q1 & Q2 2020. Well actually any quarter this year!"

https://fromvinyltoplastic.com/us-bl...cline-in-2020/
Oh, please don’t start this again. You already ruined the Pioneer thread.
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Old 12-08-2020, 05:07 AM   #5
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Oh, please don’t start this again. You already ruined the Pioneer thread.

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Old 12-08-2020, 09:06 AM   #6
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Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.
Me neither. But I've seen several people here and elsewhere report rotting. It happens. Depends on quality control as well.
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Old 12-10-2020, 03:44 AM   #7
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Pressed discs do not degrade unlike burned discs. Even my LaserDiscs and old CDs and DVDs from the 80's and 90's are still just as good as when they were brand new. I have never had a disc "rot" on me.
Consider yourself lucky. I've had rot on every format. Certain discs were guaranteed to rot especially on laserdisc.
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Did you really spring for that LG SIGNATURE Z9 or ZX (pronounced Z ten) OLED? Didn't think we'd have a member with one of those.

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Did you really spring for that LG SIGNATURE Z9 or ZX (pronounced Z ten) OLED? Didn't think we'd have a member with one of those.
Yes I was one of the first to get the Z9. But after seeing this I feel like a peasant:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsun...-for-the-home/

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Pressed discs do not degrade
Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.
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Old 12-14-2020, 03:27 PM   #11
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Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.
None of mine have rotted. I have some discs from the early years of Compact Disc and they all look and play perfectly.

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Dude, do you just not understand when you're wrong and continuing to dig a hole? Every optical format is prone to rot, to varying degrees. PDO (UK pressing plant) was notorious for making CDs and LDs in the early 90s that rotted super fast. I bought three copies of a brand new CD release two years ago (not PDO), and not one of them would rip properly on a Plextor drive I own. (For those who don't know, certain Plextors from ~2000-2006 were workhorses that could rip just about anything you threw at them.) I have DVDs that have rotted and won't play right. Same for a few Blu-Rays. Some pressing plants just produce garbage that won't last six months, much less six decades.

As for your quixotic quest to get somebody to support legal UHD playback on Macs...well, you have fun with that. I guess you've at least accepted that Macgo didn't somehow slip UHD support out to the public, with no announcements and zero fanfare.
One of the reasons I decided to get a cabinet with doors. I want to reduce exposure as much as possible.
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