Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[CV19]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I think they want to make new exclusives for the service on a regular basis. If British films got first run premieres on there, that would be a big draw.

Yes I agree, I think it would attract subscribers. I just had a look at their website for curiosity and they're quoting £5.99 per month - by coincidence that's how much Film Four charged monthly for their service when it launched. At least with Britbox, you're getting the other channels too.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by CV19

Yes I agree, I think it would attract subscribers. I just had a look at their website for curiosity and they're quoting £5.99 per month - by coincidence that's how much Film Four charged monthly for their service when it launched. At least with Britbox, you're getting the other channels too.

If film four teamed up with BBC films, they would have a decent batch of films plus new releases. It would have to be ad free of course.

[alchav21]

With several coronavirus vaccines coming to market, moviegoers should soon return to theaters in huge numbers, right? Not so fast, according to new data from one research firm that found 61% of respondents plan on watching new movies via streaming services, rather than going to the cineplex post pandemic.

If you guys are counting on the Movie Theaters, it doesn't look good!

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/post-p...ovie-theaters/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

If you guys are counting on the Movie Theaters, it doesn't look good!

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/post-p...ovie-theaters/

It’s not just us, it’s the entire industry buddy. The film industry NEEDS the cinema. You need to stop trolling because this forum is packed with film lovers. Most of us don’t rejoice in pointless stupid surveys. There were many surveys saying people planned to replace their TV set with tablets years ago. It was just that tablets were in vogue. Ask these same folk about movie going in two years and their answer will change.

It’s one thing having discussions about disc versus digital, but you are getting excited about the film industry being weakened by a considerable amount. It needs to stop as it’s just weird thinking imo. We all enjoy film.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

If you guys are counting on the Movie Theaters, it doesn't look good!

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/post-p...ovie-theaters/

Plenty o' people will attend movie theaters while most will wait for a movie to appear on cable or streaming. It was like this before the pandemic and it will be like this afterwards.

Interesting mistake in that article, though. In the caption under the headline photo it says that the pandemic has claimed "the lives of 10,000 people globally." This is ridiculously wrong. The global death toll as of today is 2,123,968, which makes this article wrong by approximately 21,140%.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Edit: I sent a comment to Media Play News about their error and now the photo's caption is gone. I suspect that other people called them out for the mistake, too.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Plenty o' people will attend movie theaters while most will wait for a movie to appear on cable or streaming. It was like this before the pandemic and it will be like this afterwards.

The survey was conducted Jan. 4 online using Survey Monkey among a national sample of 867 adults, spanning across U.S. geographic regions, income levels, gender and age.

So they conduct a online poll about people returning to theaters? Anyone see a problem with that? You get a email inviting you to a online survey, and don’t think a goodly amount of the 867 might be currently bias to using online vs going out? The bias stats are also likely bogus (gender, age, location, wealth). So you live in small town USA, don’t socialize online much, hmmmmmm.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Understood, it can be frustrating at times. I have ordered quite a bit of various types of cable from MonoPrice. I pick cable xyz at 3' 5' and 10' but 5' is out of stock so I have to wait till 5' is in stock or order and pay 2 shipping chargers. The good part is that seems to be the exception and not the rule.

Other suppliers that I have ordered from: Amazon, Cable Wholesale, Cables Direct, PCH Cables, and Show Me Cables. If I am buying a lot of name brand* cable like a spool or hank then I buy from a wholesaler like H.L. Dalis. IMO, Canare connectors are works of art.

* Belden, CommScope, Canare and Mogami.

Thanks for those links. I went with Show Me Cables since they had the exact specs I was looking for in the cables. Went ahead and purchased two of them to have on standby. Oof, Canare is pretty indeed!

[PenguinInfinity]

Originally Posted by alchav21

If you guys are counting on the Movie Theaters, it doesn't look good!

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/post-p...ovie-theaters/

Why do you keep acting like movie theaters are part of the physical side of the physical vs digital argument? Why do you think that if movie theaters fail it will hurt physical media more than streaming?

Movie theaters are good for the movie industry because big budget movies are reliant on people paying high prices for every person at every showing. Neither streaming nor physical media could ever consistently make hundreds of millions of dollars on an individual movie. If movie theaters fail then movie budgets will drop dramatically.

Movie theaters failing isn't a digital vs physical issue in the slightest. It affects all of us whether we go to theaters or not.

[JohnAV]

While some movie theaters are closed because they are waiting for the public vaccinations to be done, this movie theater owner saw a new use of its premises:

Instead of Playing Blockbusters, This Movie Theater Reopened as COVID-19 Vaccine Site -Variety 1/22/2021

Stone Theatres, a small cinema chain with venues in North Carolina and South Carolina, has been empty for months after theater operator Dale Coleman made the difficult decision to stay closed due to the lack of new movies to show.

Yet for the first time since March, the lobby of one location — The Pointe 14 in Wilmington, N.C. — is bustling. People aren’t coming to see “The Croods: A New Age” and they certainly aren’t showing up for “Wonder Woman 1984.” Instead, nearby residents are going to their local theater to get COVID-19 vaccines.

The local New Hanover Regional Medical Center has set up shop inside the theater to vaccinate those eligible to make appointments. Currently in North Carolina, only frontline health-care workers, longterm care staff and residents, and adults ages 65 and up can register to receive the vaccine. Carolyn Fisher, New Hanover Regional Medical Center’s director of marketing, says the facility has been using clinic space and areas within the hospital, but the movie theater allows them to accommodate more people in a shorter period of time. “This allowed us to go from administering a few hundred vaccines a day to about 1,300 a day,” Fisher says.

North Carolina heath officials plan to administer 30,000 at The Pointe 14 theater alone due to the expansive area.

Just think of the wonderful trust this theater is representing to local clientele when it’s able to play films again.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Plenty o' people will attend movie theaters while most will wait for a movie to appear on cable or streaming. It was like this before the pandemic and it will be like this afterwards.

Interesting mistake in that article, though. In the caption under the headline photo it says that the pandemic has claimed "the lives of 10,000 people globally." This is ridiculously wrong. The global death toll as of today is 2,123,968, which makes this article wrong by approximately 21,140%.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Edit: I sent a comment to Media Play News about their error and now the photo's caption is gone. I suspect that other people called them out for the mistake, too.

We weren't getting new movies day and date before...

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

We weren't getting new movies day and date before...

and we likely won't afterwards, either.

The theatrical exhibition window is very lucrative for studios. Once theaters reopen full scale and people regain their confidence in attending public venues, the studios will likely revert to how they used to structure their new release schedules: first theatrical, then VOD rental, digital purchase, physical media, SVOD, and pay TV services.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

and we likely won't afterwards, either.

The theatrical exhibition window is very lucrative for studios. Once theaters reopen full scale and people regain their confidence in attending public venues, the studios will likely revert to how they used to structure their new release schedules: first theatrical, then VOD rental, digital purchase, physical media, SVOD, and pay TV services.

Tom Hanks is certain cinemas will do good business again, that’s good enough for me.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Tom Hanks is certain cinemas will do good business again, that’s good enough for me.

I will do my part when it is safe to do so.

As much as I am enjoying my recent HT upgrades, it doesn't compare to what the theater offers.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I will do my part when it is safe to do so.

Same here. More so than ever!

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Vilya

and we likely won't afterwards, either.

The theatrical exhibition window is very lucrative for studios. Once theaters reopen full scale and people regain their confidence in attending public venues, the studios will likely revert to how they used to structure their new release schedules: first theatrical, then VOD rental, digital purchase, physical media, SVOD, and pay TV services.

Lol. Sure if any theaters are still left. We are going to have 2 straight years of basically no movies in theaters. Warner is actually looking smart after all the delays this past week from other studios.

Will people still care about these movies after being delayed for years?

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by PenguinInfinity

Why do you keep acting like movie theaters are part of the physical side of the physical vs digital argument? Why do you think that if movie theaters fail it will hurt physical media more than streaming?

The Movie Industry will be just fine, you guys are the ones that think the Movie Theaters open correlates to Disc Sales. The Cinema landscape will change, they will still be there but less of them. You will still be able to watch all the Movies you want on your Big Screen Home Theater, and if you want to go to the Cinema that will be your choice too. Streaming TV Shows or Movies at home or going to the Cinema....It will be your choice!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Lol. Sure if any theaters are still left. We are going to have 2 straight years of basically no movies in theaters. Warner is actually looking smart after all the delays this past week from other studios.

Will people still care about these movies after being delayed for years?

In normal times there have been films delayed for 2 years or in development hell for longer. Of course people will care. Theatres will always be here. There will be losses and changes but to suggest otherwise is ludicrous.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

Lol. Sure if any theaters are still left. We are going to have 2 straight years of basically no movies in theaters. Warner is actually looking smart after all the delays this past week from other studios.

Will people still care about these movies after being delayed for years?

Theaters, like all public venues, will return. People will eventually come out of hiding and resume doing all the public things that they enjoyed.

I agree that the studios are making the best of a bad situation right now, but they hold all the cards when it comes to how they release their movies. They will do whatever is to their advantage.

I do not think that direct to digital distribution will favor the making of expensive blockbuster films, though. They could be a casualty of that business model.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

The Movie Industry will be just fine, you guys are the ones that think the Movie Theaters open correlates to Disc Sales. The Cinema landscape will change, they will still be there but less of them. You will still be able to watch all the Movies you want on your Big Screen Home Theater, and if you want to go to the Cinema that will be your choice too. Streaming TV Shows or Movies at home or going to the Cinema....It will be your choice!

This is not a matter of our opinion; box office performance is directly related to disc sales. Years and years of data have proven this fact. bruceames in the Home Video Sales thread has documented this numerous times, but such facts fly right over your head as most facts usually do.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by alchav21

The Movie Industry will be just fine, you guys are the ones that think the Movie Theaters open correlates to Disc Sales. The Cinema landscape will change, they will still be there but less of them. You will still be able to watch all the Movies you want on your Big Screen Home Theater, and if you want to go to the Cinema that will be your choice too. Streaming TV Shows or Movies at home or going to the Cinema....It will be your choice!

We don’t think it, we know it. We have year after year of evidence to prove that very point. Cinema blockbuster success= disc success.

Without the cinema, the film industry would change beyond recognition.

Your utopia couldn’t exist. Cinemas wouldn’t stay open on the off chance that people will go. It needs to make it’s money.
Actors would be paid for less for example, studios would have to get used to far less money. That would result in way fewer blockbusters and any films that require expensive sequences.