Your thoughts on the swine flu outbreak?

[U4K61]

Originally Posted by quexos

A new mutation of the Flu has broken out in the Mexico city area. According to experts it is becoming a pandemic and a dangerous one, so far 60 people dead. I call it Captain's Trip cause that's what Stephen King called something similar in his book "The Stand".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8018356.stm
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/0...flu/index.html

My job brings me into contact with a lot of people. lol
Duck and Cover

Some useful information on vaccines that you should be aware of. Talk to your doctor.

"Your vaccine is your neighbors business...herd immunity... If enough of a population is immune, a disease dies out. For measles you need 83% of the population to be vaccinated or immune in order for the number of cases to decline over time. [otherwise] incidence of the disease goes up" - Robert Nelsen, Forbes, 8 February 2010

History
Smallpox(1796), Edward Jenner, cowpox, caused by
Polio(poliomyelitis)(1955)Jonas Salk(IPV), (1960's)Albert Sabin(OPV)
Japanese encephalitis(1992)
Hepatitis A(1995)
Chickenpox(1995)
Influenza(1940's, 2001), nasal(2003)
PCV7(2000)
Meningoccal conjugate(2005)
Rotavirus(2006,2008)

Acronyms
AIDS -Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, immune system caused damege by HIV infection.
BCC - Bacille Calmette-Guerin, protects against tuberculosis.
BCG - Tuberculosis.
CRS - Congenital rubella syndrome.
DTaP - diphtheria, tetnus, and acellular pertussis.
GBS - Guillain-Barre symdrome
IPV - inactivared polio caccine.
H1N1 - Swine influenza.
Hib - hepatitis B and Haemophilus influenza type b.
HIV - Human immunodeficiency virus.
HPV - human papillomavirus, sexually transmitted.
MCV4 - meningoccal conjugate.
MMR - measles, mumps, and rubella.
MMRV - measles, mumps, rubella, varicella.
MPSV4 - meningococcal polysaccharid (replaced by MCV4).
OPV - oral polio vaccine.
PCV7 - Pneumoccal Conjugate Vaccination.
PPV - Pneumoccal Polysaccharide Vaccine.
LAIV - live, attenuated influenza vaccine.
Tdap - Tetanus, diptheria, and acellular, and pertussis.
SIDS - Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, death with no clear cause.

Common Vaccines
Influenza
Hepatitis B
Rotavirus
DTaP
Hib
Pneumococcal
Polio(IPV)
MMR
Varicella (Chickenpox)
Hepatitis A
Meningococcal
Tdap
Mumps
Pertussis(whooping cough)
Zoster

Other Vaccines
Anthrax
Japanese encephalitis
Rabies
Smallpox
Tuberculosis
Yellow Fever

No Vaccine
Hepatitis C
Malaria

Shingles. Rash and nerve pain caused by a previous case of chickenpox. The virus stays in your body after the infection. The zoster vaccine can prevent shingles.

Glossary
Acute Illness - illness that lasts a short time.
Antibiotic - substance that can inhibit or kill bacteria.
Congenital rubella syndrome(CRS) - birth defect in children when mother had rubella.
DNA - deoxyribonucleic acid.
Epidemic - a regional increase in the number of cases.
Herd immunity - when a certain % of people are vaccinated, they protect unvaccinated members.
Incubate - grown and replicate withen the body.
Pathogen - disease-causing substance.
Phagocytes - while blood cells that find and consume pathogens.
Pandemic - widespread outbreak.
Vector - An insect or animal that transmits disease to humans.

Subtypes of Bipolar Disorder
Facors: Genetic, Biological, Environmental, Psychological.
Communication between two neurons: Presynaptic neuron, Synaptic space, Postsynaptic neuron.
Bipolar I - periods of mania and major depression.
Bipolar II - periods of hypomania and major depression.
Bipolar Mixed - simultaneous symptoms of mania and depression.
Bipolar rapid cycling - many periods of mania and depression.
Bipolar with psychotic features - mood symptoms with hallucinations or delusions.
Cyclothymic disorder - periods of hypomania and mild depression.

ADHD - Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
Anxiety Disorder
Asperger's Disorder
ODD - Oppositional Defiant Dissorder
Unipolar Major Depression

Some Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors(SSRIs)
Prozac - Fluoxetine
Zoloft - Sertraline
Paxil - Paroxetine

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by camper

And I was simply putting your comment into actual, and practical perspective.

So no, 157 is NOT many and is hardly worth mentioning.

camper

Actually, it's not a small number. You are foolish for thinking so. It has been barely a month since it made its first appearance. It's going to kill much more than just 157. A few days ago, it wasn't even 50. That's over a hundred in just a few days. This is a flu that is still in its early stage. So the worst may have yet to come.

Yesterday, a total of 6 cases was reported across Canada, today, the total is 13. So far, no deaths. All of these were people who came back home from Mexico. But I'm not going to say people will not die from it. The flu itself is contagious so it will be passed onto many more people the infected ones come in contact with after leaving Mexico. It's like a chain reaction. Supposedly one infected person comes in contact with 50 people in a day, these 50 people may have contacted the flu. As a result, each of these people may contact 50 more each. So imagine how quick the flu can spread. People never learn these days. It's not the same as car accidents or genocides. The flu itself is nothing to scoff at. Especially when you study the history of how big of a pandemic the flu can be.

People need to brace themselves because the worst may have yet to come.

[Mr.White]

My 5 year old nephew went to Kindergarden class today and his teachers were bringing up the swine flu,he came home upset and crying thinking he was gonna catch it,should'nt teachers try not to panic the kids?

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by Mr.White

My 5 year old nephew went to Kindergarden class today and his teachers were bringing up the swine flu,he came home upset and crying thinking he was gonna catch it,should'nt teachers try not to panic the kids?

I disagreed. Teachers should tell the kids what is going on, and HOW to prevent it, and WHAT kids can do etc. The more info you get, the less panic you will have.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by Mr.White

My 5 year old nephew went to Kindergarden class today and his teachers were bringing up the swine flu,he came home upset and crying thinking he was gonna catch it,should'nt teachers try not to panic the kids?

This is how misinformation gets started. I am 99.999% sure the teachers were not trying to panic the kids. I am sure they were explaining it and such which is a good thing. Especially after what I have seen lately with people out in public. Coughing, sneezing and all that without ever covering their mouths. Absolutely disgusting. You might as well go over and lick their tongue.

People today have no respect for anyone except themselves and even that is beginning to wane.

[Azyiu]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

This is how misinformation gets started. I am 99.999% sure the teachers were not trying to panic the kids. I am sure they were explaining it and such which is a good thing. Especially after what I have seen lately with people out in public. Coughing, sneezing and all that without ever covering their mouths. Absolutely disgusting. You might as well go over and lick their tongue.

People today have no respect for anyone except themselves and even that is beginning to wane.

Yeah, here in Hong "Commies Infested" Kong, some people are so misinformed, it is pure comedy. I was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday afternoon... geez, some callers were simply stupid! I remember one woman called and beeyatch'd about how "little" the government had done to prevent this outbreak, and suggested why not stop visitors from N.America from getting into HK. Ha! How about you first take care of your personal hygiene? That might be a start too?

[RiseDarthVader]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8023820.stm

The country's health minister says 159 people are believed to have died from swine flu, but the confirmed death toll has been reduced from 20 to seven.

Media is overblowing this whole thing.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

Media is overblowing this whole thing.

They ALWAYS do. And people are so gullible now days, they will believe anything.

In Bowling for Columbine there was that statistic that said while violent crime had dropped some significant percentage, the reporting of it had increased 600% leading the population to believe we were in a crisis of violence.

It's all about ratings and eyeballs, and journalism is nearly dead and buried. Edward R nailed it 50 years ago.

Gary

[NARMAK]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

They ALWAYS do. And people are so gullible now days, they will believe anything.

In Bowling for Columbine there was that statistic that said while violent crime had dropped some significant percentage, the reporting of it had increased 600% leading the population to believe we were in a crisis of violence.

It's all about ratings and eyeballs, and journalism is nearly dead and buried. Edward R nailed it 50 years ago.

Gary

spot on, the more they cover this, they sensationalise & exxagerate to make it more interesting & use overblown projected figures to further this

let's be honest, in a country of millions, a few hundred deaths like this isn't uncommon & more people die of other things but the only reason you don't hear of a pandemic of people dying like that is cause it doesn't interest even with exxageration

[Grumpz]

1st US Death.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090429/.../med_swine_flu

Nothing to worry about.

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by Craig Ruchman

My job brings me into contact with a lot of people. lol

My job brings me into contact with alot of SICK people!

[camper]

Originally Posted by Banjo

Actually, it's not a small number. You are foolish for thinking so. It has been barely a month since it made its first appearance. It's going to kill much more than just 157. A few days ago, it wasn't even 50. That's over a hundred in just a few days. This is a flu that is still in its early stage. So the worst may have yet to come.

People need to brace themselves because the worst may have yet to come.

You're right. The end is near. The apocolypse is upon us. Run. Run. Death is at your door. The flu is coming to kill you, just like it kills thousands of people EVERY year. Eeek. Oh no. Panic. Mayhem. This is worse than anything ever. Lock yourself in your room and don't go to work because you may be next.



camper

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by Stephie_is_a_dork

Cancun is a tourist town. Everyone speaks English and accepts US dollars (although exchange rates vary). Every mall has McDonald's, Subway, and 4 Duty Free shops that sell Coach and Hermes. It's isolated by ocean and rainforest. It's like the least Mexican place in Mexico, and it's certainly not a third world country.

I know Cancun is a tourist town. I've been there several times.

I was just joking with jkwest, since he vacations there every year....

[Bigdog]

Two things i know for sure about this outbreak or flu bug.

A) It has driven news outlet ratings as most people have grown tired of the political ball washing they have over done in the last 4 months, prompting most to switch the channel until last week.

And

B) What ever drug company who is making the vaccine is about to increase it's revenue ten fold because of the panic!

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

They ALWAYS do. And sheep are so gullible now days, they will believe anything.

In Bowling for Columbine there was that statistic that said while violent crime had dropped some significant percentage, the reporting of it had increased 600% leading the population to believe we were in a crisis of violence.

It's all about ratings and eyeballs, and journalism is nearly dead and buried. Edward R nailed it 50 years ago.

Gary

Corrected for you.

You are absolutely correct. Mainstream media no longer reports the news, they fabricate things and spin what few facts they actually have to their advantage (whatever that may be). This "soon-to-be-pandemic" is just the latest example. Violence and guns are another hot topic that the media sees fit NOT to report facts. 90% of the guns used in Mexico drug crimes are from the US? That's pretty funny considering the real number is more like 17% max.

But, hey, why let the truth get in the way? After all, a crisis is a terrible thing to waste, and needs to be milked for all its worth. It's amazing how gullible most folks are in this country.

[mikejet]

It's amazing how much the media will lie. You cannot die from the flu. You can die from the flu leading to another health problem such as pneumonia or from the flu making other existing health problems worse. But the flu itself can't kill you.

[DrinkMore]

Originally Posted by mikejet

It's amazing how much the media will lie. You cannot die from the flu. You can die from the flu leading to another health problem such as pneumonia or from the flu making other existing health problems worse. But the flu itself can't kill you.

I am not one to believe in this whole "pandemic" thing, however how do you know that a flu can't kill you? Are you in the medical profession (IE a doctor)? Depending on the strain and what it can do, it may kill you. You can't just say a flu can't do that. In theory it SHOULD NOT kill it's host as it would defeat the purpose, but after it's done with you - who knows?

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by DrinkMore

I am not one to believe in this whole "pandemic" thing, however how do you know that a flu can't kill you? Are you in the medical profession (IE a doctor)? Depending on the strain and what it can do, it may kill you. You can't just say a flu can't do that. In theory it SHOULD NOT kill it's host as it would defeat the purpose, but after it's done with you - who knows?

Most flu related deaths are from pneumonia. The disease itself won't kill you. It's not like the bubonic or pneumonic plauge which caused hemorraging and lead directly to death. If you catch a bad case of the flu and it's not treated, then it will lead to another condition which will kill you. The flu itself won't.

[Mr.White]

I was in a grocery store this morning and man(from some other country) was coughing and sneezing and NOT covering his freaking snout and pie hole,I told him in a very polite matter,"Please cover your nose and mouth when you cough",He got a really nasty attitude with me,I said nothing else made my purchase and went on my merry way. WHAT HAPPENED TO GOOD OL' COMMON SENSE!!!

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by Mr.White

I was in a grocery store this morning and man(from some other country) was coughing and sneezing and NOT covering his freaking snout and pie hole,I told him in a very polite matter,"Please cover your nose and mouth when you cough",He got a really nasty attitude with me,I said nothing else made my purchase and went on my merry way. WHAT HAPPENED TO GOOD OL' COMMON SENSE!!!

One of first threads I started on this message board was about how common courtesy has become uncommon courtesy. It's a sad state of affairs when people don't recognize or care how their own actions can affect others.