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Old 02-03-2021, 03:56 PM   #1
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Gremal isn’t worth talking to y’all. They tried this BS in TLOU2 PS4 thread and just want to start something with their ignorant biases. Unsurprisingly they are once again supremely wrong. The Last of Us 2 IS art, games and media ARE art, and art is marketed to the masses. It’s called capitalism.

Artists created the imagery, sculpted the environment, composed the music, performed these characters, wrote this story for the world to experience. What the creators of this game did are the same things the Greeks did only in a digital age. Gremal inherently doesn’t understand art and that has been one of their many problems in communicating with others about this game.
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Old 02-03-2021, 04:41 PM   #2
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How is The Last of Us (or any other video game) not "the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination"? Where did the game come from if it wasn't from "human creative skill and imagination"?
I just told you this a couple posts ago. Game companies invest capital into game dev as a business. They may hire artistic types, but the reality is that there is an expectation of profit. This is in many respect the opposite of art because art is purely a manifestation of the artist's self expression and a game is not that.

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You didn't finish the second game did you?
Yes, I did.

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Gremal isn’t worth talking to y’all. They tried this BS in TLOU2 PS4 thread and just want to start something with their ignorant biases. Unsurprisingly they are once again supremely wrong. The Last of Us 2 IS art, games and media ARE art, and art is marketed to the masses. It’s called capitalism.
In capitalism, products are marketed. You are confusing art with products. Badly. You are also afraid to have a discussion with someone who disagrees with you, which makes your position shaky.

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Artists created the imagery, sculpted the environment, composed the music, performed these characters, wrote this story for the world to experience. What the creators of this game did are the same things the Greeks did only in a digital age. Gremal inherently doesn’t understand art and that has been one of their many problems in communicating with others about this game.
Even if we indulge your position, and call the game "art", that is fairly meaningless. There can be great art, poor art, meaningful art, meaningless art, art that resonates with you but not with others, etc., etc.
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Anyways so...going by what Santa Monica Studio did with GoW (another GOTY winner). I'm almost certain ND might follow with an enhanced update. Offering the 60fps, etc.
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Anyways so...going by what Santa Monica Studio did with GoW (another GOTY winner). I'm almost certain ND might follow with an enhanced update. Offering the 60fps, etc.
Same. I don’t see it being a paid remaster like the first game got. JuT a free update that makes more use of the PS5’s power.

Will be curious to see if the MP they split out into its own game rather than including with TLOU2 is a paid release or a free to play standalone game with micro transactions.
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