Why Microsoft wants HD DVDs to win

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

That is quite a bit different though. Music is very easily portable and always has been. Video is a lot less portable, especially when downloaded.

Not really, look at how many people have iPod videos, or the ugly-ass Zune.

[statikcat]

People do not spend 3k on a TV to watch some shit quality, over compressed, sad excuse for HD movie file downloaded from the net. Sorry just not going to happen. Maybe when next gen internet speed is more common but that is even 5+ years away. And by then there will just be an even better HD disc out that is even larger in size (maybe uncompressed video) and that internet speed will be inferior for it. Point is I doubt internet will ever catch up to video sizes as time goes on.

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by statikcat

People do not spend 3k on a TV to watch some shit quality, over compressed, sad excuse for HD movie file downloaded from the net. Sorry just not going to happen. Maybe when next gen internet speed is more common but that is even 5+ years away. And by then there will just be an even better HD disc out that is even larger in size (maybe uncompressed video) and that internet speed will be inferior for it. Point is I doubt internet will ever catch up to video sizes as time goes on.

I've only watched one movie (Crank) from the Xbox Live Marketplace and it looked great. I only have a 720P projector, so I can't compare it to 1080P, but when you consider nothing broadcast is in 1080P - either 720P or 1080i, and that people aren't complaining about the quality of the HD the receive, its probably very good for the majority. After all, there's plenty of people here who won't listen to MP3's, because they aren't high quality, but obviously the majority do.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

I've only watched one movie (Crank) from the Xbox Live Marketplace and it looked great. I only have a 720P projector, so I can't compare it to 1080P, but when you consider nothing broadcast is in 1080P - either 720P or 1080i, and that people aren't complaining about the quality of the HD the receive, its probably very good for the majority. After all, there's plenty of people here who won't listen to MP3's, because they aren't high quality, but obviously the majority do.

I'm pretty much forced to listen to MP3 files becuase NONE of the albums I want are on SACD.

I'm against HD downloads though. The only things I download are songs and a few TV shows for my iPod.

[statikcat]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

I've only watched one movie (Crank) from the Xbox Live Marketplace and it looked great. I only have a 720P projector, so I can't compare it to 1080P, but when you consider nothing broadcast is in 1080P - either 720P or 1080i, and that people aren't complaining about the quality of the HD the receive, its probably very good for the majority. After all, there's plenty of people here who won't listen to MP3's, because they aren't high quality, but obviously the majority do.

How big was the file in size? And how big is your tv?

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by statikcat

How big was the file in size? And how big is your tv?

I think it was 1-2GB. TV is a projector - 720P 92".

[Blue]

What anyone likes or dislikes is totally irrrelevent to this thread. Do a search on Microsoft downloads (on this site) there you will find numerous threads some pointing to M$ announcments on this subject and comments from various other knowledgeable people in the industry. As for the dificulty in progamming in Java - you must be kidding, many companies are mandating the use of Jave for their Web based applications. As for iHD (or HDi) no one knows much about it, once again there are numerous threads on this discusion. Use the Search feature, it does work and it doesn't bite. The initial assumption (although a logical one, unless you are not aware of the facts) was that Microsoft were behind HD-DUD to sell their Operating system. According to Microsoft spokes people, they see the future in downloads etc etc.

[iceman]

Read what Shadowself said, spot on explanation.

I also heard somewhere that M$ is negotiating a multi-billion dollar deal about buying the whole analog TV network in USA to use for downloads. If anyone knows more about this please correct me and post info

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

I've only watched one movie (Crank) from the Xbox Live Marketplace and it looked great. I only have a 720P projector, so I can't compare it to 1080P, but when you consider nothing broadcast is in 1080P - either 720P or 1080i, and that people aren't complaining about the quality of the HD the receive, its probably very good for the majority. After all, there's plenty of people here who won't listen to MP3's, because they aren't high quality, but obviously the majority do.

Originally Posted by statikcat

How big was the file in size? And how big is your tv?

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

I think it was 1-2GB. TV is a projector - 720P 92".

I find it extremely difficult to believe that the full Crank movie, including video and sound, was only 1-2 GB and "it looked great" -- even on 720p. Crank on a SD DVD is significantly more than 1-2 GB. An outstanding upscaler might make the SD DVD look very good on your 92" 720p display, but not "great" which is what I'd be tempted to call the Blu-ray version.

[Mr.Neutral]

Originally Posted by Aaron

Not really, look at how many people have iPod videos, or the ugly-ass Zune.

Yeah, but how many movies can you put on there? And its not high def. What if I want to watch my downloaded HD movie at my summer house? There's currently no way to do that.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Mr.Neutral

Yeah, but how many movies can you put on there?

About 80 gigs worth.

What if I want to watch my downloaded HD movie at my summer house? There's currently no way to do that.

That's what this is for.