Disney+'s - WandaVision (Season 1)

[DanTheMan]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Maybe she really isn’t a villain? Maybe she is just a mentor to Wanda, helping her discover the true magical origins of her mutant power as well as creating the environment to heal her emotionally. The Monica actress said the show had a sad side to it. The last scene made me wonder if that just is Agnes?

Perhaps, but then mentors aren’t known for killing innocent dogs (even if it was “fictional”).

The only way we can sympathize with Agatha at this point is if it’s revealed that someone even higher up was pulling her strings the entire time.

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by slumcat

I think Dottie has been sidelined for now. I don't know think she has a major role to play. I think she might just be an innocent Westview bystander at this point. The actor Emma Caufield is not credited in the main credits, I always pay attention to that. So I don't think she will have a big role going forward.

But then again who knows, they already did a major fakeout with Agnes in Ep 6.

I think she still has something left to play, even if it ends up being minor. Emma did a ton of press for the show, and the fact they had her at the end this week to remind us that she exists seemed important.

At least I hope - she is one of my favorite actors, so I'd love to see some juicy bit of plot with her - or at least an indication that her character is larger and will appear outside of WV.

(Edit: Okay, that is funny - I said WV as in WandaVision, but then I realized WV could also be Westview, and it would work both ways...dang I love how clever this show is LOL.)

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Maybe she really isn’t a villain? Maybe she is just a mentor to Wanda, helping her discover the true magical origins of her mutant power as well as creating the environment to heal her emotionally. The Monica actress said the show had a sad side to it. The last scene made me wonder if that just is Agnes?

This is why I’m wondering whether or not

[Show spoiler]Agatha is being controlled as well because if she was mentoring Wanda, why has she intentionally been stirring up trouble this whole time?

This could just be her agenda though, as this episode and the first episode alluded to the fact that she appeared after Wanda had already created the sitcom world. She was also getting Quicksilver to ask questions of how Wanda accomplished this, which goes along with her arriving later because perhaps the hex drew her there out of curiosity?

[CrockettTubbs]

Wow! Strange episode it was. We have now few answers, but at the same time these have raised new questions.

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

For those interested, I’ve compiled a list of lingering questions for the last two episodes. Hopefully these all get answered to some degree.

[Show spoiler]1. Was it really JUST Agatha all along? If not, who’s helping her or perhaps guiding or controlling her?
2. Was Peter/Pietro pulled from the multiverse and mind-controlled by Agatha like it showed her do to others like Herb, or was he just something she conjured up?
3. Who was Monica’s contact? Will we see them and do they matter? I’m asking this assuming the army woman wasn’t also an aerospace engineer.
4. Who is the guy Paul Bettany has been teasing? Will this be the true villain behind it all or some other character entirely?
5. Did Wanda in fact start the town? Was she helped by Agatha or did Agatha just show up to mess with things for fun?
6. What is Agatha’s master plan or does she even have one?

If anyone can think of other questions you still have I’d love to hear them.

My guess to Q1:

[Show spoiler]whoever it is, he/she was already shown in disguise as Señor Scratchy (the rabbit)

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by CrockettTubbs

My guess to Q1:

[Show spoiler]whoever it is, he/she was already shown in disguise as Señor Scratchy (the rabbit)

[Show spoiler]Yeah there were way too many close-ups of the rabbit for it to amount to nothing lol.

[Sozo]

The mid credit scene was a nice surprise. Had to go back later and watch when I found out about it.

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by JayTL

*clicks one link*



In fact, all 3 do not claim he said that. When you provide a source...make sure it says what you claim it does

Why so serious bro? I already said it was fake news. And provided sources which claimed allegedly said they were an hour long.

[themoviefanatic]

why is nobody’s talking about the mailman? surely he is involved in some of this, they keep showing him... someone tell me what is with him?...preeze

[DanTheMan]

If Agatha was in on the WV world from the start, does that mean when they flashbacked to the Halloween episode with her and Vision at the stop sign, she was in control of her mind the entire time and Vision’s powers actually didn’t work on her, thus making her the more powerful being of the two?

Or is that a case of, “he’s technically dead anyway, so his abilities wouldn’t necessarily work on Agatha”?

For that matter, how did Agatha know ahead of time to park that car in that precise spot at that exact time, assuming that Vision would sneak there for escape? Aren’t there other areas of the boundary walls that Vision could’ve potentially attempted escape besides Ellis Ave?

Am I asking too many questions?

[SteelbookCat]

[Show spoiler] there is a missing book on the wall behind doctor strange in his own movie I wonder if its the book in agathas basement

maybe mom spoilers

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

This is why I’m wondering whether or not

[Show spoiler]Agatha is being controlled as well because if she was mentoring Wanda, why has she intentionally been stirring up trouble this whole time?

This could just be her agenda though, as this episode and the first episode alluded to the fact that she appeared after Wanda had already created the sitcom world. She was also getting Quicksilver to ask questions of how Wanda accomplished this, which goes along with her arriving later because perhaps the hex drew her there out of curiosity?

Look at

[Show spoiler]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Agath...ess_(Earth-616)

Scarlet Witch
Eventually, Salem's Seven took over the New Salem community again. They captured Agatha and killed her by burning her at the stake. In an ensuing battle between the Scarlet Witch, and Salem's Seven, the entire community's energies were drawn into Vertigo of the Seven, who lost control of them. Wanda managed to capture some of the energy and funnel it away, but the entire town was still decimated. Wanda channelled the remaining energy to set in motion her becoming pregnant with her synthezoid husband's children.

Later, Agatha resurfaced, avoiding explanations for her return. She claimed that Scarlet Witch's children were actually fragments of the soul of Mephisto and wiped Wanda's memory of her children rather than fight to free the two from Mephisto when he reabsorbed the two.

She went on to aid other mystics in a number of crisis situations, and trained Wanda further in the use of her powers, claiming that her mutant ability was actually to use "chaos magic" and helped fully resurrect the Avenger Wonder Man.

[joshsquash729]

Villain or not,

[Show spoiler]I definitely think Agnes is going to act as a sort of mentor/inspiration for Wanda to better control her powers going forward, even if for evil means. The fact that Agnes did basically the same hand motions Wanda does leads me to believe that they share basically the same powers, and Wanda's going to mooch off that in one form or another.

Definitely think that the rabbit is important somehow. I initially thought it may be whoever the other big bad is in disguise, but I'm still not sure on Pietro- if he's a villain in disguise or an alternate Quicksilver. Could be fun to have some alternate take on Circe from Greek mythology- a sorceress who can turn men into animals. Could be "Ralph", but I'm hoping that her unseen husband turns out to be the other villain- Mephisto, Nightmare, whoever.

[ITDEFX101]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Episode 7 is wild.

[Show spoiler]We finally get confirmation that Agnes is Agatha Harkness (called it), we see Monica Rambeau turn into Spectrum and the Modern Family/The Office parody is on point.

Also, I think the fly we see is Mephisto in disguise. He was disguised as one in his first comic book appearance after all.

Bring on the last two episodes!

[Show spoiler]
Wasn't that a Cicada?
I am trying to figure out a few other things like:
What is the Rabbit's role in this?
The delivery guy with all those boxes walking away in that scene, what's in the boxes?

[AnimalCMan]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Look at

[Show spoiler]https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Agath...ess_(Earth-616)

Yeah, I was aware of most of that, which is why I felt some things didn't add up if we were to use that as a guide for what's happened.

[Show spoiler]I don't think she was training Wanda, unless somebody started controlling Agatha's actions after. My reasoning for this is that her attempts to stir up trouble more than likely were to drive Wanda crazy enough that she'd allow her children to go away alone with Agatha.

I think every action she's taken was calculated, first to get Wanda to have kids, and then push Vision away from her, and finally breakdown her mental state so she would want to be alone.

Of course I could be totally wrong, I'm curious what others think about her actions so far.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Why so serious bro? I already said it was fake news. And provided sources which claimed allegedly said they were an hour long.

So you asked the question, then listed *tons* (3) articles claiming Feige said something, when in fact they used each other as a source and also debunked what you were trying to say. Just not sure what the point was.

Originally Posted by jayman3

So like, did Fiege lie because episode 7 is only 37 minutes and not “an hour.”

Originally Posted by jayman3

Must’ve been fake news then because there were tons of online articles claiming Feige stated the last three episodes to be an hour long.

So to recap, you asked the question, didn't like the answer so you posted articles disputing the answer you didn't like..just that those articles don't prove your point.

Or am I mistaken?

[ben6543]

you would think by now Strange would have felt this magical disturbance and gone to investigate it

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by ben6543

you would think by now Strange would have felt this magical disturbance and gone to investigate it

Not likely

Chaos Magic is the name of a magic so powerful that it was thought to be non-existent by even the Sorcerer Supreme himself. So logically Dr. Strange would not know how to detect or cope with it.

[TheBub]

Originally Posted by AnimalCMan

Yeah, I was aware of most of that, which is why I felt some things didn't add up if we were to use that as a guide for what's happened.

[Show spoiler]I don't think she was training Wanda, unless somebody started controlling Agatha's actions after. My reasoning for this is that her attempts to stir up trouble more than likely were to drive Wanda crazy enough that she'd allow her children to go away alone with Agatha.

I think every action she's taken was calculated, first to get Wanda to have kids, and then push Vision away from her, and finally breakdown her mental state so she would want to be alone.

Of course I could be totally wrong, I'm curious what others think about her actions so far.

I agree.

[Show spoiler]It seems like she really is after the kids, and also she seems to want them to age up. The first time she gets in contact with them is when Vision gets in the way and she breaks character and tells Wanda 'You want me to hold the babies'. Wandas reaction afterwards was weird, especially when Vision talked to her about it, she seemed to not remember what just happened. The next thing is her spraying Lavender on the babies. No idea if that was truly Lavender, I always found that kinda suspicious. And it was pretty much right after that, that the kids grew up. So maybe whatever she sprayed on the kids was helping them to age up?

Then she comes in with a doghouse just after they found that puppy. Maybe she expected some conversation to happen about them not being old enough to keep it. That is when they age up again.

Then she killed Sparky, as we now know for certain. This almost lead them to age up again to get rid of the grief, but Wanda stopped them.

However, it really seems like she tries to push them to grow up fast, for whatever reason.

[Toddarino]

Wiccan grows up to be pretty powerful, so maybe she’s after that power.
Also if they follow the comics,

[Show spoiler]they created using part of Mephisto so there’s that.

[j_sazin]

Yet another fantastic episode. Can't believe there's only a couple more.