Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical media sales (DVDs, Blu-Rays) fell around 20 percent worldwide, now representing only nine percent of revenues.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/mp...ed-1234624380/

Really surprising, it’s like there are no cinema releases!

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical media sales (DVDs, Blu-Rays) fell around 20 percent worldwide, now representing only nine percent of revenues.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/mp...ed-1234624380/

I know you like to focus on media but they said this right at the top.

Revenue declined from theaters, home digital platforms, and physical media in 2020, according to the Motion Pictures Association’s annual report. Worldwide, the year-over-year decrease was 18 percent.

[cheez avenger]

Cinema releases are ramping up now. My AMC theater will be playing Kong vs Godzilla in Dolby Cinema and IMAX. Too bad my 2nd vaccine shot won't be until that second week of April and I won't be at full prevention strength until that last week of April.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical media sales (DVDs, Blu-Rays) fell around 20 percent worldwide, now representing only nine percent of revenues.

https://www.indiewire.com/2021/03/mp...ed-1234624380/

Once again the complete and utter nonsensical comparison of a rental service. Yet true renting of physical media (like reselling) is not tracked at all.

Anyone that compares the data in a catastrophic year for business has absolutely lost their mind.

It is like Re-Animator where these same declining sales stats just keep popping up from the dead as if they have any merit compared to a true model that does not hold onto outliers.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Cinema releases are ramping up now. My AMC theater will be playing Kong vs Godzilla in Dolby Cinema and IMAX. Too bad my 2nd vaccine shot won't be until that second week of April and I won't be at full prevention strength until that last week of April.

Even then this prior year will not be anywheres close to a normal year with many good blockbusters if a majority of movie theaters restart, and that effects the buying habits of the entire ecosystem around watching movies. HT gear purchases, VoD purchases, physical media, and so on. Look people watch the trailers go to the movies or not, but still all this content helps drive up the whole marketplace. After March 11, 2020 the rest of the year was awful.

[Lee A Stewart]

U.K. Theaters Mark One Year of Shutdown, With 95% Worse Off Due to Pandemic

https://variety.com/2021/legit/globa...ry-1234931476/

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I know it’s not the point but if someone wants to stream a 4 hour movie to watch on their mobile device, then they deserved to be f—d.

Exactly my thoughts.

[flyry]

Physical crowd is like the anti science crowd

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical crowd is like the anti science crowd

Bullshit. No one here is denying that disc is in decline. But dropping the crap you just dropped means you aren’t to be taken seriously.

Besides, we are fully justified in being here (in this forum) due to our love of the format. What’s your excuse? Dropping your anti-disc posts then disappear for weeks again?

[Lee A Stewart]

MPA 2020 Theme Report

https://www.motionpictures.org/wp-co...EME-Report.pdf

[cheez avenger]

Just finished watching the first episode of Falcon and Winter Soldier on Disney+. It was pretty good. That opening sequence was badass! Looked and sounded great, too. Speaking of Disney+, I'm paying monthly at $6.99 but got an email yesterday morning that said next month my rate is going up to $7.99 per month.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical crowd is like the anti science crowd

Maybe if physical didn't offer the highest quality.

What's unscientific about wanting the better technical option ?

Streamers are like the people who don't want to pay rent anymore and want loans erased because current life is too hard so they need more handouts until they think it's suddenly fair. Landlords are bad because they have something that isn't handed to everyone.

-Brian

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by flyry

Physical crowd is like the anti science crowd

And once again another trolling comment to stir up trouble.

What is the point?

Discs are in decline, but yet release after release of stellar proportions.

I guess all the independents just love to lose piles of money.

When you sift through the gloom and doom stat links do you actually look at the new releases of BLURAY.com?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by slimjean

And once again another trolling comment to stir up trouble.

What is the point?

Discs are in decline, but yet release after release of stellar proportions.

I guess all the independents just love to lose piles of money.

When you sift through the gloom and doom stat links do you actually look at the new releases of BLURAY.com?

It’s actually against forum rules to slag the format off but this is kind of like a smack down thread so..........

It is daft though, anti-disc people being members of Blu-ray.com.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

It is daft though, anti-disc people being members of Blu-ray.com.

It is like having a forum that talks about a specific title only to have the same contrarian clowns say how crappy that same specific title is.

While I often defend what I like, why would I go specifically searching for a movie I dislike just to spout?

Never a shortage of individuals like that, but it never ceases to amaze me. Really dislike the world troll, but man the shoe does fit.

Heck let me go a step more. Let us say that there is complete adulation over a movie and I completely don't understand the love for it. Why not actually try to find out how others think instead of just dropping a "I hate this" bomb and refusing to validate how you feel? Just flat out pointless unless your goal is to make trouble.

[bhampton]

Using state of the art technology is anti science.

Have coffee and try to come up with something or leave to others who haven't run out of ideas yet.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Bullshit. No one here is denying that disc is in decline. But dropping the crap you just dropped means you aren’t to be taken seriously.

Besides, we are fully justified in being here (in this forum) due to our love of the format. What’s your excuse? Dropping your anti-disc posts then disappear for weeks again?

I know, right? This forum is named blu-ray.com. Hello, McFly? Amazingly we love the disc formats and the clearly superior quality it delivers. Whod have thunk it?

Originally Posted by bhampton

Maybe if physical didn't offer the highest quality.

What's unscientific about wanting the better technical option ?

Streamers are like the people who don't want to pay rent anymore and want loans erased because current life is too hard so they need more handouts until they think it's suddenly fair. Landlords are bad because they have something that isn't handed to everyone.

-Brian

Best post evah! . Aint that the truth. They love the lockdowns too so they can sit home and stream all day on their 32" junk LCDs or their 4"phone screen. Its "HD, man!".

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I know, right? This forum is named blu-ray.com. Hello, McFly? Amazingly we love the disc formats and the clearly superior quality it delivers. Whod have thunk it?



Best post evah! . Aint that the truth. They love the lockdowns too so they can sit home and stream all day on their 32" junk LCDs or their 4"phone screen. Its "HD, man!".

Yeah, but no compression artefacts on the 5 inch phone from a distance of ten feet using an extended arm accessory! Don’t forget that!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by slimjean

The director composes shots. There was 133:1 for most tv and tons of movies. Feeling "cramped" is only if it wasn't designed that way like falsely masking what was widescreen.

agree, artistic integrity (for what ever reason it was decided that way) is what matters most.

Originally Posted by bhampton

2.40:1 screen, projector, curtains.

I don't see black bars unless it's VAR.

agree and do the same, but then again does it matter? there is a max width and a max height if the rest is curtains (which admittedly look nicer) or black bars it is still more or les the same thing. There is a max area that only works with one AR and anything else will mean smaller area. The question is it better for it to be garbage from the camera or black bars/curtains. And if the AR is changed adding garbage or losing out some of the original composition.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Ender14

No, I preferred OAR which is why I invested in a laserdisc player. In this instance though you have several filmmakers which indicate the OAR for IMAX shot content is 16:9 and release their content that way. Then you have one filmmaker saying his movie is shot in IMAX and the correct AOR is 4:3 and that is why it was released that way. So which one is correct?

If someone can provide definitive proof for one or the other then fine. But since IMAX content is supposed open the frame and be a larger image I tend to favor the 16:9 framing. It feels more expansive which is how IMAX should feel.

complex question but simple answer if we are talking film is neither a full frame is 70x48.5=1.44 so slightly wider than 4:3