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Old 05-07-2009, 05:58 AM   #21
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(Come on Hollywood, do you not think a black man can run, jump, fire a gun, drive nice cars and woo the ladies at the same time )
Will Smith already played in that movie; Bad Boys, I know they were cops and not spys but close enough.
 
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Will Smith already played in that movie; Bad Boys, I know they were cops and not spys but close enough.
+1. Burn.
 
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Read the 9 posts before yours, this is what the thread is about.
I think i could have figured that part out, seeing as how I had to go through those posts to get to yours.

Your point was "BOND IS NOT BLACK!"

As if it's just entirely ridiculous to even suggest casting a black guy as the character because the original source character was not black.

And so I gave two examples of source material that the race of the characters (one the main title role) was changed from white to black.
 
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Will Smith already played in that movie; Bad Boys, I know they were cops and not spys but close enough.
 
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Yeah but it would be directed by Tyler Perry!

Logan
wouldn't that mean we'll have a huge subplot about jesus

even though I wouldn't mind watching bond vs jesus
 
Old 05-07-2009, 06:09 AM   #26
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name one
Not to be a buzzkill, but, Tommy Lee Jones randomly becoming Harvey Dent once he becomes bad? And you can't even argue that's it's because the franchise had gone downhill; it was a direct sequel!

On point, however, part of me also cannot see James Bond as being black, simply because I've seen 22 movies where he's been white. However, I'm sure that when M because she, there was a lot of upheaval. I have to give credit to the writers for Pierce Brosnan's line in Goldeneye to introduce her, though...

I sldo have to admit that my favourite part of the franchise, though, was turning Felix from a redneck to his current role of being, through the last 2 films, the best, most reliable "friend" James Bond has been able to rely on. And hey, what do you know, he happens to be black, too. Great revival of the role, if you ask me.
 
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Remember when Harvey Dent was Billy Dee Williams in Tim Burton's Batman?
 
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As if it's just entirely ridiculous to even suggest casting a black guy as the character because the original source character was not black..
You would be right, if it was the first movie, it might be Ok. However, since there has already been 20 something films with a british, white Bond, it is not Ok. So yes it is entirely ridiculous to even suggest casting a black guy as the character.

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And so I gave two examples of source material that the race of the characters (one the main title role) was changed from white to black.
Yea, that happens all the time, but it never goes the other way.
 
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Remember when Harvey Dent was Billy Dee Williams in Tim Burton's Batman?
Was Harvey Dent Black in the comics?
 
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Was Harvey Dent Black in the comics?
No but he was in the Animated Series.
 
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No but he was in the Animated Series.
Ok so that one doesn't count. Someone name a historically black role that was reprised by a white person. I just can't think of one, I'm not sure the NAACP would let it happen.
 
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Ok so that one doesn't count. Someone name a historically black role that was reprised by a white person. I just can't think of one.
Part of me wants to laugh at this... "Historically black roles"? But, instead of laughing, I will simply try to re-direct people to the topic at hand, which is about a black Bond. Remember, several articles and comments mentioned that the world was ready for a black Bond; let's debate whether or not that's true now, not debate moot points about actors switching roles, whether or not they are of the same race.
 
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Yeah I don't think an historically black role would ever be changed to a white because it would be a no-no.
 
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Please, parents just don't understand..........

But ok than, I nominate Steve Carrell for Malcolm X, or Eminem for Martin Luther King.
 
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Will Smith is a great actor. I enjoy watching his movies. I'm sure if he wants to play a secret agent in a movie, he can do it. James Bond....nah. As an aside to other posts, Harvey Dent was white in Batman: TAS. It's actually brought up on one of the dvd commentaries I believe. I never thought of Felix Leiter as a redneck. Jack Lord was great as Felix Leiter in Dr. No...very cool.
 
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Nope, Harvey was voiced by Richard Moll, a white actor, but he was definitely drawn black.



Also Destro in the G.I. Joe cartoon was voiced by a black actor and the character is a Scotsman.
 
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Yea, that happens all the time, but it never goes the other way.
I guess Fred Armisen playing Barack Obama on SNL doesn't count?
 
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Kratos is voiced by a black actor, as well.
 
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DVDave, I have the series...listened to the commentaries and Harvey is white. If they had made Harvey black or Asian or Hispanic...doesn't matter to me. As for Bond, I don't think it would make the earth go off its axis if Bond was black, Asian, Hispanic, etc.
 
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I never thought of Felix Leiter as a redneck.
Darnit, I was thinking of, Jack Wade, in the Brosnan Bonds. I guess I need to re-visit my later Bonds, I seem to have gotten far too familiar with the early ones!
 
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