Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by Gizz

Well you hate his Batman films with a passion. Have you seen any of his other films? I am happy you love TDKR. Batman (1989) is my favourite comic book film and both Burton's Batman films are my top two favourite Batman films. Remember Burton himself would read Batman comics as well. And let's be honest The Dark Knight Trilogy could be inaccurate at times.

Burton did never read comics.



For me, the TDK trilogy is perfect. Seen it dozens of times. If you’re born in the older generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

Returns is garbage, the most overrated comic book film of all-time alongside Endgame, atleast for me.

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The best Joker.



It'll be forgotten in 20 years.

Heath Ledger's, the Oscar winning one? Sure.

It won't. It has already been established as one of the greatest comic book films and (films in general) of all-time, or one of the best of this decade at worst.

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I don’t know this word.

You seem to care a lot. It constantly ruffles your feathers and you have to whine.

You spend every moment praising Marvel or Lynch or whatever stuff, meanwhile you complain only about Nolan. It seems like you have to respond once someone says a good thing about Nolan or one criticism on those things

Wouldn't it be better to just argue for your point of view instead of bashing over, and over with subjective takes that are not elaborated at the same time?

[dvining]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

Yes!
And duh, Witness and Picnic at Hanging Rock are must sees.
But I also dig Year of Living Dangerously, Last Wave and Mosquito Coast.
Haven't seen Green Card nor Way Back. I should check the latter but can't do the former. I dislike Depardieu.

I bought Picnic at Hanging Rock recently, but I still haven't watched it. I saw it once in my earliest days with Netflix DVD, but I have little memory of it.

Finishing up my Lynch run through tonight with Inland Empire, I need to catch up on my purchases.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

If you’re born in the older generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

If you’re born in the younger generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by dvining

Only once?

I studied lots of times.

I found if you study more than once. You forget things.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

Heath Ledger's, the Oscar winning one? Sure.

Pity vote.

It won't. It has already been established as one of the greatest comic book films and (films in general) of all-time, or one of the best of this decade at worst.

We'll see.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

Still a bad looking, repetitive crap that looks like a Rammstein music video.

And Nolan made more money, was more acclaimed and was listed in many film of decade list. When did it do money? I saw his record and it's quite fallen off in this decade.

Not trolling. My opinion is just my point of view, but elaborated so why you are right that it’s subjective, saying that Burton is completely spent as a filmmaker and fallen off sounds about right, given the stats.

And Nolan makes car commercials that the choregraphed fights are lazy, the editing can be shoddy and the storytelling is (sadly) predictable.
Plus I don't think Nolan even knows what he's trying to say half the time. Tenet was a nightmare. Total fever dream of comprehension. It's borderline on the same level as Birdemic and The Room, where the director goes ego maniac, thinking the audience will understand them.
I will sidetrack and state I do enjoy Dunkirk (and most of his work and himself). But sadly, even his war film has it's issues. Something like 1917 comes along and becomes the best recent war film.

So again, money only matters when YOU say it does? Okay. Alice in Wonderland made a billion first.
And Burton is still making movies. We'll have to see where Nolan ends up since he had a hissy fit with WB (and is acting like an ego dbag with theatres and this pandemic).

Huh? This syntax is wrong. Hard to understand what you mean. Subjectivity is opinion. Providing Rotten Tomatoes numbers and Box Office numbers doesn't mean diddly when talking about subjective. Nor does lists from random sites whether it's AFI or Lights Camera Jackson.

[DR Herbert West]

Mars Attacks! > Interstellar

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Pity vote.



We'll see.

He was simply that good. Just because you can't give credit to anything Nolan related, it does not mean that you have to be insensible against someone else unfortunate passing. It's really not professional or fair, at all.

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

If you’re born in the younger generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

I only care about the film being good. I did not enjoy BvS, at all neither i am huge on MCU films yet they are from this gen.

[SilverFox84]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Ed Wood > Mank

I haven't seen Mank yet, and from what I hear it's a little on the dull side, but Ed Wood is ****ing amazing, one of Burtons best

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

And Nolan makes car commercials that the choreographed fights are lazy.

His fights are the worst.

[dvining]

I watched the first 30 minutes of Mank, was completely loving it, and had to turn it off to deal with real world stuff.

I never turned it back on.

I have no idea what that says.

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

And Nolan makes car commercials that the choregraphed fights are lazy, the editing can be shoddy and the storytelling is (sadly) predictable.
Plus I don't think Nolan even knows what he's trying to say half the time. Tenet was a nightmare. Total fever dream of comprehension. It's borderline on the same level as Birdemic and The Room, where the director goes ego maniac, thinking the audience will understand them.
I will sidetrack and state I do enjoy Dunkirk (and most of his work and himself). But sadly, even his war film has it's issues. Something like 1917 comes along and becomes the best recent war film.

So again, money only matters when YOU say it does? Okay. Alice in Wonderland made a billion first.
And Burton is still making movies. We'll have to see where Nolan ends up since he had a hissy fit with WB (and is acting like an ego dbag with theatres and this pandemic).

Huh? This syntax is wrong. Hard to understand what you mean. Subjectivity is opinion. Providing Rotten Tomatoes numbers and Box Office numbers doesn't mean diddly when talking about subjective. Nor does lists from random sites whether it's AFI or Lights Camera Jackson.

Yet, I will not even bother replying everything you've said (opinion based) what matters is that Nolan is far more acclaimed, has better films, has outgrossed him and no comment in a board will ever change that.

TDK made a billion before that and Dunkirk was superior to 1917, which is a great film, no doubt.

[HipsterTrash]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

TDK grossed much more than it, and was a far, far superior quality product.

Nolan's changes in aspect ratios is jarring. And his thought process on Bane and ADR is laughable. It didn't work to record it on set, so they had to dub in a new voice. That then became truly cringe inducing cause it was so noticeable. That's why people made fun of it.
Talk about shoddy filmmaking.

Also why do you think the dialogue, something Nolan had his own hands in, became a meme? It just didn't work in most places. That airplane scene will stand the test of time as just misplaced dialogue.

[Guy87]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Mars Attacks! > Interstellar

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

He was simply that good. Just because you can't give credit to anything Nolan related, it does not mean that you have to be insensible against someone else unfortunate passing. It's really not professional or fair, at all.

I only care about the film being good.

Same here.

[SilverFox84]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

If you’re born in the younger generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

Yeah, I'm hearing young people don't think the Star Wars Prequel trilogy isn't that bad, their parents failed them...

[Gizz]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

Burton did never read comics.



For me, the TDK trilogy is perfect. Seen it dozens of times. If you’re born in the older generation it makes sense to prefer what you grew with.

Returns is garbage, the most overrated comic book film of all-time alongside Endgame, atleast for me.



Heath Ledger's, the Oscar winning one? Sure.

It won't. It has already been established as one of the greatest comic book films and (films in general) of all-time, or one of the best of this decade at worst.



You spend every moment praising Marvel or Lynch or whatever stuff, meanwhile you complain only about Nolan. It seems like you have to respond once someone says a good thing about Nolan or one criticism on those things

Wouldn't it be better to just argue for your point of view instead of bashing over, and over with subjective takes that are not elaborated at the same time?

I seem to remember to remember on one of the extra on one of the DVD's that he did read Alan Moore's The Killing Joke. I have grown up on Burton take on Batman. Born in 1981.

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

Nolan's changes in aspect ratios is jarring. And his thought process on Bane and ADR is laughable. It didn't work to record it on set, so they had to dub in a new voice. That then became truly cringe inducing cause it was so noticeable. That's why people made fun of it.
Talk about shoddy filmmaking.

Also why do you think the dialogue, something Nolan had his own hands in, became a meme? It just didn't work in most places. That airplane scene will stand the test of time as just misplaced dialogue.

Still more acclaimed and liked than Burton's garbage films in the 21st century. Still a far better quality piece of filmmaking than anything the gothic hack has ever put out in that career.

Originally Posted by Gizz

I seem to remember to remember on one of the extra on one of the DVD's that he did read Alan Moore's The Killing Joke. I have grown up on Burton take on Batman. Born in 1981.

Fair, It makes sense that you have seen them first to them, so no problem. I respect that

Still that does not make his films accurate or good in the first place.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by SilverFox84

Yeah, I'm hearing young people don't think the Star Wars Prequel trilogy isn't that bad, their parents failed them...

I'm not showing my 7 year old the prequels until much later in life.

He will know the original trilogy only for a while.

Got him to watch Back to the Future because we put up a poster in our media room, and I've never seen him more engaged with any movie ever.

[DR Herbert West]

Beetlejuice > Inception