Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[NKB2017]

Originally Posted by JWgrayhawk

Oppos have 3 choices of remote codes (at least my 103's do). You can switch the remote between A,B or C in the battery compartment and then choose the corresponding code in the machine's setup menu.

After unplugging, the machine will turn on with any of the 3 codes- to enable the switching. So the only time a remote operates more than 1 is when you unplug a unit for some reason.

Great news!!! I wonder if I can get my Harmony Remote to work independently with my two Oppo's then????

[Badas]

Originally Posted by NKB2017

Great news!!! I wonder if I can get my Harmony Remote to work independently with my two Oppo's then????

Sure can.
My Harmony controls UB820 (soon UB9000), Oppo Zone A and Oppo Zone B.
All on different remote codes.

My paid for UB9000 is available for pick up this Friday. So excited.

[NKB2017]

Originally Posted by Badas

Sure can.
My Harmony controls UB820 (soon UB9000), Oppo Zone A and Oppo Zone B.
All on different remote codes.

That's great. Was it easy to programme? Thanks!

[the sordid sentinel]

Originally Posted by fredreed

I just exchanged the Sony X700/M for the Panasonic UB820 and I must say It's a very impressive unit specially on my projector which uses HDR10. The picture quality is very vivid, crystal clear, and very sharp. I haven't so far seen the Discs skip like some people have said they have had happen. But so far the remote control even works great unlike what people have said about It also. It all depends on how you hold It and use It. It is by far the better then any of the Sony 4k Ultra blu ray players that are currently out.

I stepped up from the Sony 700 to Panny 820 as well, about a month ago. SO happy I did. Just a better player in every way imagineable. Have been super impressed w/the 4k playback on this thing, jaw has hit the floor a few times. Possibly equally impressed w/the 820 upconverts 1080p content. No disc skips here as well..something that annoyed me to no end w/the Sony. In short..absolutely love this player.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by NKB2017

That's great. Was it easy to programme? Thanks!

I find it easy. Just takes a while and you have to be patient.

I have my harmony programmed so it ejects a player, turns on AVR which turns on two power amps, turns on remote lighting and then turns on the projector,
So that all you have to do is pop in a disc.

[JWgrayhawk]

Originally Posted by Badas

I have my harmony programmed so it ejects a player, turns on AVR which turns on two power amps, turns on remote lighting and then turns on the projector,
So that all you have to do is pop in a disc.

That is pretty badas!

Looking at your badas system, curious why when you're taking so many aspects to the extreme, you didn't go 5.3.4 or even 7.3.4? Also, if you're bi-amping 5 channels- does that mean you're powering the height speakers from the AVR?

[DarkEco910]

Originally Posted by Badas

Sure can.
My Harmony controls UB820 (soon UB9000), Oppo Zone A and Oppo Zone B.
All on different remote codes.

My paid for UB9000 is available for pick up this Friday. So excited.

Originally Posted by NKB2017

That's great. Was it easy to programme? Thanks!

Originally Posted by Badas

I find it easy. Just takes a while and you have to be patient.

I love my Harmony remote. It is a bit time-consuming to program, but it's all worth it in the end.

[Rasimov]

Anyone get the TOP MENU trick to work on 88 Film blu-rays? I've been playing them in my HTPC since the remote trick doesn't work on the few I have, but I was hoping there was some trick to make them work instead of loading them into a media server disc drive.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by JWgrayhawk

That is pretty badas!

Looking at your badas system, curious why when you're taking so many aspects to the extreme, you didn't go 5.3.4 or even 7.3.4? Also, if you're bi-amping 5 channels- does that mean you're powering the height speakers from the AVR?

I watch a lot of 4:3. So wide scope looks too small.

I actually like 16x9. For me it is a perfect middle of all scopes.
Especially when you get changing ratio movies like intersteller.
I thought about it and went Nah!

Yes. Height channels off the AVR. Everything else bi-amping.
AVR only powering height channels and Zone 2 speakers.

[Badas]

Yay! F#ckin Yay!
I'm picking up my UB9000 on my way home tonight.
I like the look of that build quality.

Retiring 1 x Oppo 103D and the UB820.

[JWgrayhawk]

Originally Posted by Badas

I watch a lot of 4:3. So wide scope looks too small.

I actually like 16x9. For me it is a perfect middle of all scopes.
Especially when you get changing ratio movies like intersteller.
I thought about it and went Nah!

Yes. Height channels off the AVR. Everything else bi-amping.
AVR only powering height channels and Zone 2 speakers.

I guess I didn't make myself very clear...

I was asking with such an extreme system why you don't do 5.3.4 Atmos instead of 5.3.2 (or even 7.3.4). Just surprised that with everything else so maxed out you didn't do the same with Atmos...

If you're willing to sell that 103D I'm sure there's people over at Quadraphoincquad.com who'd love to get one for a reasonable price- I recently backed up my 103D with a 103, thinking universal players will soon be extinct or at least only available as mega-buck gear.

[Badas]

Originally Posted by JWgrayhawk

I guess I didn't make myself very clear...

I was asking with such an extreme system why you don't do 5.3.4 Atmos instead of 5.3.2 (or even 7.3.4). Just surprised that with everything else so maxed out you didn't do the same with Atmos...

If you're willing to sell that 103D I'm sure there's people over at Quadraphoincquad.com who'd love to get one for a reasonable price- I recently backed up my 103D with a 103, thinking universal players will soon be extinct or at least only available as mega-buck gear.

Opps!
I thought you were talking ratios. You were talking Atmos.

I get what you are saying. I've often thought I should do 5.3.4. Add two more ceiling speakers. My AVR has the amps and I have the crawl space inside the ceiling.
I haven't done it mainly because I ran out of steam. Lazy.
Seriously tho, the room really can't handle any more. The room is down right scary at times. Like you are going to get seriously stuffed up.
Even without the buttkicker system the drinks rattle in the seats. So much sound pressure. I guess I went "enough is enough" and stopped.

103D is going to boxed and stored as a spare to the other 103D.
UB820 is going to a new home. A workmate.

[Blu-Curry]

I was checking this player out for a new 4K set up since it supports all the main HDR formats. But at this point, should I just wait for everything to have HDMI 2.1? If the TV, receiver, and UHD player are all HDMI 2.1, then the signals for HDR/Atmos/DTS:X would not be "lost in translation"? 4K TVs these days support HDMI 2.1, the receivers are coming out, I just can't seem to find much info on 4K UHD players supporting HDMI 2.1.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

I was checking this player out for a new 4K set up since it supports all the main HDR formats. But at this point, should I just wait for everything to have HDMI 2.1? If the TV, receiver, and UHD player are all HDMI 2.1, then the signals for HDR/Atmos/DTS:X would not be "lost in translation"? 4K TVs these days support HDMI 2.1, the receivers are coming out, I just can't seem to find much info on 4K UHD players supporting HDMI 2.1.

4k disc players are locked to BDA specs. You don't need HDMI 2.1 and 4k/120 fps or 8k support for them. If you absolutely need AI upscaling to 8k, then the 8k displays can do this for you internally.

Consumer electronics companies and Hollywood studios or broadcasters can barely get their shit together with 4k. Don't worry so much about 8k.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

I was checking this player out for a new 4K set up since it supports all the main HDR formats. But at this point, should I just wait for everything to have HDMI 2.1? If the TV, receiver, and UHD player are all HDMI 2.1, then the signals for HDR/Atmos/DTS:X would not be "lost in translation"? 4K TVs these days support HDMI 2.1, the receivers are coming out, I just can't seem to find much info on 4K UHD players supporting HDMI 2.1.

Freaky already gave the correct answer, but here’s an even more succinct one:

HDMI 2.1 doesn’t mean shit w/ref to UHD Blu-ray.

[Blu-Curry]

lol Thanks to you both. I thought I had read somewhere that HDMI 2.1 would allow for a better Dolby Atmos/DTS:X signal to be carried, allowing for an even better sound.

[Geoff D]

The audio is already lossless though, i.e. perceptually transparent to the studio master. It can also already be encoded at higher sampling rates up to 192kHz and can be transmitted as such using existing cabling with no issues.

I think you’re getting confused with eARC, which is an improved system of transmission of said ^ audio for HDMI 2.1. But it only applies to TV passthrough of these signals, that you just need to connect one cable from TV to your sound bar/AVR and it can send the fancy audio it’s getting from the player down that pipe without dumbing it down to lesser quality/formats. Got nothing to do with improving the audio signal itself over and above what it does already, just changing the way a TV handles it basically. Still got nothing to do with the player in any case, it will provide the audio over HDMI like it always does and what the TV does with it is not its concern.

[thisis2]

..not sure if this has been addressed earlier in this thread but do Panasonic or Sony or any other brand intend to produce standalone 4k BLU-RAY players annually as they used to..?..i presently own the Sony x700 and the Panasonic 820..

[Geoff D]

The industry isn’t bothering to continually update technology that’s dying on its arse. That said, there’s not really anything else to actually “update” when it comes to the 4K spec. Blu-ray went through a lot of early iterations because BD Live wasn’t ready, and they just kept on changing them yearly anyway. But there’s no need now. Unfortunately the industry has taken it a bit too literally and Panasonic don’t even bother with firmware updates any more.

[bnmdjm]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The audio is already lossless though, i.e. perceptually transparent to the studio master. It can also already be encoded at higher sampling rates up to 192kHz and can be transmitted as such using existing cabling with no issues.

I think you’re getting confused with eARC, which is an improved system of transmission of said ^ audio for HDMI 2.1. But it only applies to TV passthrough of these signals, that you just need to connect one cable from TV to your sound bar/AVR and it can send the fancy audio it’s getting from the player down that pipe without dumbing it down to lesser quality/formats. Got nothing to do with improving the audio signal itself over and above what it does already, just changing the way a TV handles it basically. Still got nothing to do with the player in any case, it will provide the audio over HDMI like it always does and what the TV does with it is not its concern.

So here's a theoretical question (probably a dumb one). I see it alluded to (even in recent posts such as in the Speed 4k thread) but can eARC improve lip sync in a case where the UB9000 is feeding directly into AVR and the TV is also connected to the AVR via a compatible eARC hdmi port? Or is there no effect unless you were viewing a TV app and sending audio to the AVR that way? I have always assumed the later scenario was the only way eARC could have any effect on audio quality but recent posts made me wonder if I'm missing something.