The Anime Blu-ray Video Quality Thread - Page 301 - Blu-ray Forum

Tylerfan · 05-30-2021, 02:02 AM

Not sure if it has been brought up in this thread (or somewhere else) but I was looking at the "Weathering with You" screenshots when I noticed one of them had a BD-ROM icon in the corner

Im so damn amused

Ccharmanderk · 05-31-2021, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tylerfan

Not sure if it has been brought up in this thread (or somewhere else) but I was looking at the "Weathering with You" screenshots when I noticed one of them had a BD-ROM icon in the corner

Im so damn amused

That's the EXACT BD-ROM icon my new Sony player has lolol

Memade · 05-31-2021, 07:07 AM

How is the US release of Liz and the Blue Bird?

I saw some previous posts mentioning it's the theatrical version and different from JP version. Does this mean it's worse?

SpaceBlackKnight · 05-31-2021, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tylerfan

Not sure if it has been brought up in this thread (or somewhere else) but I was looking at the "Weathering with You" screenshots when I noticed one of them had a BD-ROM icon in the corner

Im so damn amused

How did dat one happen?? Yup, 100% primo grade professional here!

Prince_7 · 05-31-2021, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memade

How is the US release of Liz and the Blue Bird?

I saw some previous posts mentioning it's the theatrical version and different from JP version. Does this mean it's worse?

It does indeed use the theatrical master but it barely matters, the difference is minimal (aside from a shot of a girl's hand being cut by her tuba, it's mostly very subtle changes that are not even noticable in motion).

The US release is really good despite being on a BD-25 and thus having a bitrate of around 27Mbps. Professorwho made a user review about it.

The theatrical master was also used on the french release, so I assume that's the master used internationally (french release is flawless by the way, bitrate of 35Mbps with peaks at 53Mbps and almost an hour worth of extras, it's one of my favorite movies so I highly recommended it, one of the best blu rays I own).

NLScavenger · 05-31-2021, 12:42 PM

The hand being cut by the tuba is still present in the JP BD.

Prince_7 · 05-31-2021, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLScavenger

The hand being cut by the tuba is still present in the JP BD.

Oh I thought they corrected the ONE big animation mistake in the entire movie lol. Well then even less of a reason to worry about the master used, most changes are barely noticable even when put side to side.

HunterKIller · 06-01-2021, 01:21 PM

I have old Votoms release, and I have a problem with OAV, where was glitches during opening (with colors etc). It's known problem. Now I check ultimate release from Sentai, where video quality it's a lot better, and see the same problem with glitches during the same opening. Sentai, why? They got broken video and cannot cut proper opening from other OAV or what?

Memade · 06-01-2021, 01:24 PM

How is Viz's release of Megalobox? Any difference between the regular and limited edition?

theberserker22 · 06-01-2021, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HunterKIller

I have old Votoms release, and I have a problem with OAV, where was glitches during opening (with colors etc). It's known problem. Now I check ultimate release from Sentai, where video quality it's a lot better, and see the same problem with glitches during the same opening. Sentai, why? They got broken video and cannot cut proper opening from other OAV or what?

Well, don't worry because now that there are official HD masters for the whole series out there I'm sure Sentai will get it right the third time

Mangaranga · 06-01-2021, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Memade

How is Viz's release of Megalobox? Any difference between the regular and limited edition?

Fine. Just don't go in with high expectations as it doesn't really look any better than it does on CR, mainly due to the inherent problems in the source (and I'm not just talking about being downscaled to 400p and upscaled again). It's encoded in the wrong colour space though, as per the norm for most of Viz's titles in the last five years.

BoscoTheMan82 · 06-01-2021, 05:57 PM

While there's a lot of releases with the wrong RGB levels how could Viz use DVD color space for a Blu-ray that's a really big goof

Mangaranga · 06-01-2021, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoscoTheMan82

While there's a lot of releases with the wrong RGB levels how could Viz use DVD color space for a Blu-ray that's a really big goof

I mean, at least that's a fixable problem and they're encoded relatively well. Compare that with the BDs Viz have shat out after Golden Wind Part 2, which have been encoded for the wrong RBG levels and have the absolutely awful compression from their early BDs, and I'd take the former any day...
A while ago I compared K Seven Stories to the Crunchyroll streams, and it's mind bogglingly bad with worse compression.

From the disc setup, it looks like they've been using a different authoring house since Jojo GW Part 2, which is actually annoying since GW Part 2 was actually encoded in the correct colour space and RGB levels. I emailed Viz, in the nicest possible way, to let them know how awful the K and Osomatsu discs are (and why), and after ~a month I received a response from them a week or two ago to confirm they've sent it to the respective team to investigate. Hopefully this results in a fix, or at least a backtrack on authoring houses, as last time I emailed in we got the aforementioned correct Jojo BD.

BigOnAnime · 06-01-2021, 09:27 PM

Haven't they been using Subatomic Digital for a long time though? They've been using them since at least 2006 as they're credited on the back of the Bleach DVD singles and box sets (which re-used the singles discs up until season 6 where there was a little overlap with Volume 32). Note that VIZ used multiple different companies for their DVDs back then, not just Subatomic Digital.

Ex: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...y.php?id=21002
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...ny.php?id=2272
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...any.php?id=630

NLScavenger · 06-01-2021, 09:57 PM

Gundam SEED HD Remaster corrected BDs seem to be encoded with wrong RGB levels (SDBD is fine). I'll post screenshots and bitrate info tomorrow.

BD

Crunchyroll (loaded in MPV via youtube-dl)

PissedOffPeoN · 06-01-2021, 10:09 PM

ummm they messed up again???

PissedOffPeoN · 06-01-2021, 10:27 PM

Oh good was about to freak out after all that effort rightstuf put into fixing it.

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BoscoTheMan82 · 06-01-2021, 10:33 PM

Isn't limited RGB correct for anime on Blu-ray, Your Crunchyroll one is Full RGB which is too bright.

PissedOffPeoN · 06-01-2021, 10:35 PM

My oled makes all my anime feel like RGB full is on all the time that i need to turn down the oled light when it gets dark or it burns me eyes lol.

NLScavenger · 06-01-2021, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoscoTheMan82

Isn't limited RGB correct for anime on Blu-ray, Your Crunchyroll one is Full RGB which is too bright.

BD and Crunchyroll are both limited RGB. 16-235 needs to be expanded to 0-255 for PC playback.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PissedOffPeoN

ummm they messed up again???

It's an issue that can be mitigated by setting the RGB level to Full. It's imo not a deal-breaker unlike the broadcast version which they have fortunately not used this time

BD

Crunchyroll

BD

Crunchyroll

05-30-2021, 02:02 AM	#6001
Tylerfan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2020 Location:Somewhere in Canada 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:322 DVD collection:274 Digital collection:11 iTunes collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:2	Not sure if it has been brought up in this thread (or somewhere else) but I was looking at the "Weathering with You" screenshots when I noticed one of them had a BD-ROM icon in the corner Im so damn amused

05-31-2021, 07:07 AM	#6003
Memade Active Member Member since:Dec 2020	How is the US release of Liz and the Blue Bird? I saw some previous posts mentioning it's the theatrical version and different from JP version. Does this mean it's worse?

05-31-2021, 12:42 PM	#6006
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:830 Trading Score:9	The hand being cut by the tuba is still present in the JP BD.

06-01-2021, 01:21 PM	#6008
HunterKIller Expert Member Member since:Nov 2017 Location:Poland Trading Score:4	I have old Votoms release, and I have a problem with OAV, where was glitches during opening (with colors etc). It's known problem. Now I check ultimate release from Sentai, where video quality it's a lot better, and see the same problem with glitches during the same opening. Sentai, why? They got broken video and cannot cut proper opening from other OAV or what?

06-01-2021, 01:24 PM	#6009
Memade Active Member Member since:Dec 2020	How is Viz's release of Megalobox? Any difference between the regular and limited edition?

06-01-2021, 05:57 PM	#6012
BoscoTheMan82 Active Member Member since:Feb 2019 Location:North Dakota Blu-ray collection:655 DVD collection:464 Trading Score:1	While there's a lot of releases with the wrong RGB levels how could Viz use DVD color space for a Blu-ray that's a really big goof

06-01-2021, 09:27 PM	#6014
BigOnAnime Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Minnesota, USA 4K collection:17 Blu-ray collection:671 DVD collection:714	Haven't they been using Subatomic Digital for a long time though? They've been using them since at least 2006 as they're credited on the back of the Bleach DVD singles and box sets (which re-used the singles discs up until season 6 where there was a little overlap with Volume 32). Note that VIZ used multiple different companies for their DVDs back then, not just Subatomic Digital. Ex: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...y.php?id=21002 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...ny.php?id=2272 https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/enc...any.php?id=630

06-01-2021, 09:57 PM	#6015
NLScavenger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2013 Location:Netherlands 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:830 Trading Score:9	Gundam SEED HD Remaster corrected BDs seem to be encoded with wrong RGB levels (SDBD is fine). I'll post screenshots and bitrate info tomorrow. BD Crunchyroll (loaded in MPV via youtube-dl)

06-01-2021, 10:09 PM	#6016
PissedOffPeoN Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2013 Location:Missouri Trading Score:68	ummm they messed up again???

06-01-2021, 10:27 PM	#6017
PissedOffPeoN Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2013 Location:Missouri Trading Score:68	Oh good was about to freak out after all that effort rightstuf put into fixing it. .

06-01-2021, 10:33 PM	#6018
BoscoTheMan82 Active Member Member since:Feb 2019 Location:North Dakota Blu-ray collection:655 DVD collection:464 Trading Score:1	Isn't limited RGB correct for anime on Blu-ray, Your Crunchyroll one is Full RGB which is too bright.

06-01-2021, 10:35 PM	#6019
PissedOffPeoN Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Nov 2013 Location:Missouri Trading Score:68	My oled makes all my anime feel like RGB full is on all the time that i need to turn down the oled light when it gets dark or it burns me eyes lol.

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