Unpopular Movie Opinions: Part III

[Guy87]

Originally Posted by dvining

My wife walked out cursing during Part 8. She came back for Part 9 and watched the rest, but she very much missed the primetime soap opera that was the first two seasons.

But still, Good triumphs over Evil! In Part 17. Then there's Part 18.

Yea I totally missed the soap opera stuff, it's definitely more of a follow up to FWWM than the original show.

Which is fine, but can be jarring. Once you begin to vibe with it though, it's magnificent

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I think Part 18 is my favorite episode.

The ending stayed with me for days, but I do wish we got SOME hint as to what the hell was going on, although I never expected it.

("The Final Dossier" does begin to make some hints toward it)

[dvining]

At my other Internet home I almost used "measurable facets". They wouldn't have gotten it.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by dvining

At my other Internet home I almost used "measurable facets". They wouldn't have gotten it.

Spread it around. 2021 is the year of the facet.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by spanky87

Twin Peaks: The Return is when the internet deemed David Lynch to be above criticism. If you had any issues with any of it you were talked down to as some pleb who doesn’t get “it”.

While it was a one of a kind TV event, I thought the ending was terrible, made the whole endeavour feel pointless, and turned me off of Twin Peaks. I haven’t gone back to rewatch any of the series since. Was not worth the 30 year wait to pick up on the original cliffhanger ending, and the 18 hour build up of The Return, only to get the real Coop back for an hour of it and arrive at an even bigger and hopeless cliffhanger ending. I didn’t expect a cheery, happy ending, but good lord, what the **** was that?

Also can’t stand the “Film Twitter” snobs who insist that it’s a movie instead of a tv series.

I definitely get someone hating The Return (and Fire Walk With Me as well). Especially if they followed the original run as it came out, to come and follow all that time up with what is essential mastabatory Lynch excess. For me it really got under my skin, like an itch you can’t scratch, following it week after week and practically grieving at that ending .

Having digested it now, and having just the good memories of following it, I find it a complete vibe, both frustratingly tantalising and tantalisingly frustrating. It’s Lynch obviously exorcising some demons about modern America as well as reaffirming his adoration for that universe and what it means to him and everyone else. I don’t think it’s perfect, I think Lynch himself is injected far too much into it, with Gordon Cole’s role in the show feeling practically ego stroking, but for a single thing that doesn’t work there’s about 3 - 4 unique things you won’t get anywhere else that either click with my sense of humour or deeply unsettle me.

On the flip side of that though, I bought a friend the box set of the original series after saying she wanted to get into it. But when we asked about The Return I said don’t worry about it yet, I don’t think you’ll enjoy it. People who act like you should get it, or that you have to like it or respect on a certain level and just jerks and aren’t worth wasting time with.

(Plus it’s absolutely a TV show, that’s practically the point of the whole thing.)

[Doc Samson]

Probably not super controversial, but I don't fully understand the praise for Easy Rider. I've tried twice to watch it and enjoy it. But for a 96 minute movie, it always winds up feeling so much longer. The performances are solid, but I have a hard time staying engaged with the plot.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Doc Samson

Probably not super controversial, but I don't fully understand the praise for Easy Rider. I've tried twice to watch it and enjoy it. But for a 96 minute movie, it always winds up feeling so much longer. The performances are solid, but I have a hard time staying engaged with the plot.

I see it as "important", not necessarily good.

It signaled the incoming wave of independent cinema, made by "auteurs" with little money that studios could mimic for big returns.

It's not really what I would call a good movie, but it definitely deserves a chapter in cinema history for what is meant for the end of the studio system and the rise of the New American Cinema.

[Blu Lemmy]

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by dvining

I see it as "important", not necessarily good.

It signaled the incoming wave of independent cinema, made by "auteurs" with little money that studios could mimic for big returns.

It's not really what I would call a good movie, but it definitely deserves a chapter in cinema history for what is meant for the end of the studio system and the rise of the New American Cinema.

That's a great way of looking at it, and I too appreciate what it did for cinema as a whole. I wish I liked it because the cast is exceptional, and all those guys had pretty amazing careers. Also, I wasn't born anytime close to the 60's, so I've always assumed I would get less out of it. It's so deeply rooted in the counterculture of the time.

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

He posted a rant early this morning, but before I could reply he deleted it.

It essentially was a challenge to prove a movie/director was good without referencing critics or popular opinion, and claims it was impossible to do. It's possible a mod deleted it, because it was very confrontational and hostile.

This never happened.

I haven't said that what I am saying is the truth, or am I wrong? I criticized because Snyder is a bad director to me. I repeat if you like his style I don't care, good for you. It is also okay that if Batman1980 considers him a genius, but at least he argues why he considers him such I have explained why for me he is incapable (and not only under this post) of making any good film.

The mature and dark tone of his films is only given by the dark photography and the soothing soundtracks but in terms of content there is nothing mature in his films.

Speaking of violence and crudeness, there are directors who dare much more than he does to really show crude and violent things and without necessarily having to use emo depressed tones like BvS, give an example? Villneuve with Prisoners deals with the theme of violence and fear in a mature way without necessarily having to burden the film unnecessarily. Or Refn who in Drive shows you a man who, driven by his job, gets to kill and rot an innocent man in a robbery and even here without weighing everything down with dull colors and characters from an emo movie.

And these are just the first names that came to mind. Sucker Punch touches "social injustice" on this topic, without deepening it and without building anything on it to say in the same year Carpenter released The Ward, a film that always deals with mental illnesses and does it way better and that’s one of carpenters worst film.

Let's talk about his direction? Errors on framing errors, camera movements, carbon copies of things made by others, special effects staged in the best possible way, abuse of CGI and destruction. In short, an unsuccessful copy of Michael Bay but at least Bay knows he is not an author and never takes himself seriously and above all has the honor to get involved right away with new projects and not relying on works made by others by stealing as many. possible things. Even the Transformers before Bay did not care about it, no one arrives he puff magically everyone emulates him and everyone wants to do like him.

The political message in snyder film where? That Watchmen was born as a work of social and politically incorrect criticism and he defaced it with all the political sense, as it did with the dawn of the living dead.

Snyder is a TV spot director, who is specialized in making "gritty" and failed adaptations that are not loved by the general audience let alone by critics..

Or do you want me to show you lot of scenes where he does everything wrong? In the first scene of Watchmen, he breaks the 180 rule atleast two times.

This is my opinion, but of course i think most would agree that his films are just... bad.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

This never happened.

[Show spoiler]I haven't said that what I am saying is the truth, or am I wrong? I criticized because Snyder is a bad director to me. I repeat if you like his style I don't care, good for you. It is also okay that you consider him a genius, but at least he argues why you consider him such I have explained why for me he is incapable (and not only under this post) of making any good film.

The mature and dark tone of his films is only given by the dark photography and the soothing soundtracks but in terms of content there is nothing mature in his films.

Speaking of violence and crudeness, there are directors who dare much more than he does to really show crude and violent things and without necessarily having to use emo depressed tones like BvS, give an example? Villneuve with Prisoners deals with the theme of violence and fear in a mature way without necessarily having to burden the film unnecessarily. Or Refn who in Drive shows you a man who, driven by his job, gets to kill and rot an innocent man in a robbery and even here without weighing everything down with dull colors and characters from an emo movie.

And these are just the first names that came to mind. Sucker Punch touches "social injustice" on this topic, without deepening it and without building anything on it to say in the same year Carpenter released The Ward, a film that always deals with mental illnesses and does it way better and that’s one of carpenters worst film.

Let's talk about his direction? Errors on framing errors, camera movements, carbon copies of things made by others, special effects staged in the best possible way, abuse of CGI and destruction. In short, an unsuccessful copy of Michael Bay but at least Bay knows he is not an author and never takes himself seriously and above all has the honor to get involved right away with new projects and not relying on works made by others by stealing as many. possible things. Even the Transformers before Bay did not care about it, no one arrives he puff magically everyone emulates him and everyone wants to do like him.

The political message in snyder film where? That Watchmen was born as a work of social and politically incorrect criticism and he defaced it with all the political sense, as it did with the dawn of the living dead.

Snyder is a TV spot director, who is specialized in making "gritty" and failed adaptations that are not loved by the general audience let alone by critics..

Or do you want me to show you lot of scenes where he does everything wrong? In the first scene of Watchmen, he breaks the 180 rule atleast two times.

Welcome back!

[dvining]

[kylor]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

[Show spoiler]This never happened.

I haven't said that what I am saying is the truth, or am I wrong? I criticized because Snyder is a bad director to me. I repeat if you like his style I don't care, good for you. It is also okay that if Batman1980 considers him a genius, but at least he argues why he considers him such I have explained why for me he is incapable (and not only under this post) of making any good film.

The mature and dark tone of his films is only given by the dark photography and the soothing soundtracks but in terms of content there is nothing mature in his films.

Speaking of violence and crudeness, there are directors who dare much more than he does to really show crude and violent things and without necessarily having to use emo depressed tones like BvS, give an example? Villneuve with Prisoners deals with the theme of violence and fear in a mature way without necessarily having to burden the film unnecessarily. Or Refn who in Drive shows you a man who, driven by his job, gets to kill and rot an innocent man in a robbery and even here without weighing everything down with dull colors and characters from an emo movie.

And these are just the first names that came to mind. Sucker Punch touches "social injustice" on this topic, without deepening it and without building anything on it to say in the same year Carpenter released The Ward, a film that always deals with mental illnesses and does it way better and that’s one of carpenters worst film.

Let's talk about his direction? Errors on framing errors, camera movements, carbon copies of things made by others, special effects staged in the best possible way, abuse of CGI and destruction. In short, an unsuccessful copy of Michael Bay but at least Bay knows he is not an author and never takes himself seriously and above all has the honor to get involved right away with new projects and not relying on works made by others by stealing as many. possible things. Even the Transformers before Bay did not care about it, no one arrives he puff magically everyone emulates him and everyone wants to do like him.

The political message in snyder film where? That Watchmen was born as a work of social and politically incorrect criticism and he defaced it with all the political sense, as it did with the dawn of the living dead.

Snyder is a TV spot director, who is specialized in making "gritty" and failed adaptations that are not loved by the general audience let alone by critics..

Or do you want me to show you lot of scenes where he does everything wrong? In the first scene of Watchmen, he breaks the 180 rule atleast two times.

This is my opinion, but of course i think most would agree that his films are just... bad.

Welcome back. Hopefully your return is a very long stay, and not a brief visit.

As for your post itself, I personally do enjoy a lot of Snyder movies, however I will agree at least that Army of the Dead is terrible and has exposed a side of Snyder that makes me realise he can suck at movie making sometimes.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

This never happened.

Are you saying there wasn't a post this morning that is now gone?

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by kylor

Welcome back. Hopefully your return is a very long stay, and not a brief visit.

As for your post itself, I personally do enjoy a lot of Snyder movies, however I will agree at least that Army of the Dead is terrible and has exposed a side of Snyder that makes me realise he can suck at movie making sometimes.

I don't think it will be a "long stay".

I get some "hate" here, What most people think of me, is an annoying user who argues like an autority and defends The Dark Knight Rises from every single criticism.

It's just my reasoning or opinion. I tend to consider almost all opinions except incorrect ones.

And did I never say that someone wasn't justified in their opinions? You know, some known user should stop and check stuff before you make claims and assumptions.

I have respect for Snyder (human being) because he did do some good things behind the scenes, he's a lot more likeable than Joss Whedon, for sure.

But i don't like his films, if someone likes it, good for him.

After all, he is a very successful director, who is doing some popcorn flicks so not really like he needs to push technology like James Cameron or be influential like Hitchcock. He's doing his job, i don’t like his style but he does atleast have some recognizable things, so i can see that he takes time into making his films despite me not liking his ideas, at all.

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

Are you saying there wasn't a post this morning that is now gone?

Do you expect me to not be a bit bored when I saw people talking shit about me while I was gone? Should I just sit there and let them say that stuff in the first place? Nope.. I'll try to be a bit more respectful this time.

Being said, there was no post.

[DR Herbert West]

Rumble Fish > Rebel Without a Cause

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

I tend to consider almost all opinions except incorrect ones.

Incorrect opinions are just the worst.

[Darthvaderrocks]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Incorrect opinions are just the worst.

You're a master on them

[dvining]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

Incorrect opinions are just the worst.

Ahem...

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I think Part 18 is my favorite episode.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

Being said, there was no post.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Darthvaderrocks

You're a master on them

Thanks!