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Old 06-10-2021, 01:50 PM   #181
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I figured TVA was so quick to apprehend and take judgement on Loki without little consideration is because of them following
[Show spoiler]Mobius’ lead on the other rogue variant Loki.


Because 2012 Loki really is innocent only in violation of creating a branch when escaping.
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:06 PM   #182
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I figured TVA was so quick to apprehend and take judgement on Loki without little consideration is because of them following
[Show spoiler]Mobius’ lead on the other rogue variant Loki.


Because 2012 Loki really is innocent only in violation of creating a branch when escaping.
[Show spoiler]Yes but they would know what his path would be. Which is why Mobius kept asking him, if he liked the things he was doing. As seen in the video a loose variant is a danger to the entire time line. He could potential make multiple branches. Nothing would stop him from trying to get revenge on the Avengers. He could have interfered in the events of multiple movies.
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:08 PM   #183
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Well it's a lot easier to have a character stay exactly, 100% the same in a comic book. When you're talking about actors and roles who have lives outside that role..plus that pesky aging thing, it's easy to see why they can't play a role for 55 years.
I would like to welcome you to the 21st century, where there is this advanced technology usually known as "de-aging", and which is only going to become cheaper every year. Which means that, yes, an actor could easily play the same role for 55 years if they have the budget... and Disney probably does, if they really want.

It may not play out that way, but it is technically possible to do, which means that we shouldn't be surprised if/when someone actually does it.
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:40 PM   #184
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I would like to welcome you to the 21st century, where there is this advanced technology usually known as "de-aging", and which is only going to become cheaper every year. Which means that, yes, an actor could easily play the same role for 55 years if they have the budget... and Disney probably does, if they really want.

It may not play out that way, but it is technically possible to do, which means that we shouldn't be surprised if/when someone actually does it.
De-aging technology still requires that actor to commit to a role for multiple decades. While we will see actors sign on to 5+ pictures, a good portion of that is bit roles (SLJ, Brie, etc) in other movies. With the potential of superseding other roles (a la RDJ in Sherlock Holmes),it's just more practical to use different actors.
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:44 PM   #185
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Marvel is going to run itself down the rabbit hole with the Multiverse angle.
Just like all those lousy CW superheroes...
The best thing about Marvel so far is continuity....actions have consequences and lead to other situations...now, just throw it all away for the sake of churning out product.
Quick, easy solutions.
WandaVision was very good until....(how did she do all this?)....because shes a witch, and ya know witches can do anything...lazy, trash writing.
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Old 06-10-2021, 02:51 PM   #186
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I thought the idea and execution of The Commission in UA was the weakest part of the show. But Opinions Vary, Reportdedly.
True....you can like the original concept....or the pale Marvel imitation...I wonder if someone at the script meetings said ...
"Hey, they just did this whole time agency thing over on the Umbrella Academy"
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:08 PM   #187
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I must admit that I'm not happy with the way Marvel is going post Far From Home. The 3 new series we've had so far have all messed around with established continuity and canon. Sure there's been errors before, but it seems we're in a point where they're just not caring about things, and messing with continuity as they see fit.
Considering that we have a Multiverse Dr Strange movie iminent, as well the next Spider-Man film supposedly being a SpiderVerse movie in it's own right, i'm not sure what Loki is trying to do regarding it's stance on alternate realities. I'm beginning to wonder if this show is going to perhaps be used in a Crisis on Infinite Earths type of way to try and tie up some inconsistencies and establish new rules along the way.
But overall I'm not keen on the overall direction in place.
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:09 PM   #188
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Marvel is going to run itself down the rabbit hole with the Multiverse angle.
Just like all those lousy CW superheroes...
The best thing about Marvel so far is continuity....actions have consequences and lead to other situations...now, just throw it all away for the sake of churning out product.
Quick, easy solutions.
WandaVision was very good until....(how did she do all this?)....because shes a witch, and ya know witches can do anything...lazy, trash writing.
What evidence of ANY lazy, trash writing involving the multiverse or alternate timelines? Since it's so new, literally nothing has happened yet with the exception of the time heist in Endgame.

But sure, lazy writing when all we saw was the first 55 minutes of a TV season.

Anyone remember the hate Wanda Vision, or Falcon and Winter soldier got because all the questions weren't answered by the end of Episode 2? I do.

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True....you can like the original concept....or the pale Marvel imitation...I wonder if someone at the script meetings said ...
"Hey, they just did this whole time agency thing over on the Umbrella Academy"
Once again you're formulating an opinion on something you haven't even experienced yet. You're hating on something before knowing the answer. Why even comment so much?

Anyone do the research as to what came first, Umbrella Academy or TVA in the comics? (The TVA predates the Umbrella academy, according to their respective Wikis)

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Old 06-10-2021, 03:19 PM   #189
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Hating....???
Just pointing out that Marvel is usually very smart....lately they are becoming not so much...It doesnt matter what happened first in the comics...TVA or Commission.
It matters what happens on all these screens....marvel should know better than to blunder like this.
Loki might turn out to be quite good, but....WandaVisions "solution" was lazy, trash writing akin to "the dog ate my homework"
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:24 PM   #190
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Hating....???
Just pointing out that Marvel is usually very smart....lately they are becoming not so much...It doesnt matter what happened first in the comics...TVA or Commission.
It matters what happens on all these screens....marvel should know better than to blunder like this.
Loki might turn out to be quite good, but....WandaVisions "solution" was lazy, trash writing akin to "the dog ate my homework"
So what's been "blundered" or lazy trash?

You throwing out words like that, without seeing the conclusion, makes you either a hater or ignorant.

You can choose which one
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:28 PM   #191
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So what's been "blundered" or lazy trash?

You throwing out words like that, without seeing the conclusion, makes you either a hater or ignorant.

You can choose which one
Uh.....I have seen the end of WandaVision.....I believe some called that the conclusion.
What on Earth are you referring to?
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:44 PM   #192
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Just finished the first Episode and it was very good and very funny. The first time since the first Avengers Movie that I could laughed about the MCU Jokes.
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Old 06-10-2021, 03:49 PM   #193
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Uh.....I have seen the end of WandaVision.....I believe some called that the conclusion.
What on Earth are you referring to?
Congrats, you've seen the prologue to Dr Strange 2, or whatever's next for those characters.

Every time I ask for clarification as to what the hell you're talking about, you defer. I've engaged this troll long enough.

Everyone else, good luck.

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Old 06-10-2021, 03:57 PM   #194
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Congrats, you've seen the prologue to Dr Strange, or whatever's next for thos characters.

Every time I ask for clarification as to what the hell you're talking about, you defer. I've engaged this troll long enough.

Everyone else, good luck.
Not a fan of Doctor Strange....back in the 60's when I was the only kid in my small town that read and collected comics. I knew that magic was BS.
So, I collected all of Marvel (and some DC) except for Dr Strange....solving problems with magic was lazy trash writing then too.
If Marvel wants to go the Multiverse route....let them. It just ruins everything they've done so far.
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Old 06-10-2021, 04:01 PM   #195
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Everyone else, good luck.
Thanks, but I am good.
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Old 06-10-2021, 04:02 PM   #196
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Dude just throwing out hyperbole after hyperbole without much in depth discussion about why they believe it to be lazy writing/trash/blunder/so on and so forth.

Simply throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks as bait in the thread.

Lazy troll.
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Old 06-10-2021, 04:04 PM   #197
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Not a fan of Doctor Strange....back in the 60's when I was the only kid in my small town that read and collected comics. I knew that magic was BS.
So, I collected all of Marvel (and some DC) except for Dr Strange....solving problems with magic was lazy trash writing then too.
If Marvel wants to go the Multiverse route....let them. It just ruins everything they've done so far.
I am probably going to regret this. Magic is trash. Eye beams, flying, and healing factors are ok?

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Old 06-10-2021, 04:15 PM   #198
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You guys respond now, after I throw up the ignore list? Thanks for coming to my defense *eye roll*

lol
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You guys respond now, after I throw up the ignore list? Thanks for coming to my defense *eye roll*

lol
I was not going to then Jayman did. So I had to. Blame him.
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I am probably going to regret this. Magic is trash. Eye beams, flying, and healing factors are ok?
All trash.

Anything Marvel Trash.

Someone hit me with an Oscar the Grouch gif.
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