Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

@gotmule

Thought this may be of interest to you:

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Yes we are Trinnov dealers. Yes DTS:X supports left/right wide speaker locations.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I am home now after a 10 day stay at two hospitals. I just wanted to say thank you to everyone who has wished me well.

I have had so much done to me and I am so extremely weak; everything is ten times harder to do than it should be. When my own future is in clearer focus, I hope to return to the everlasting debate about the future of physical, digital, and home video.

I enjoy all of you...even those with whom I have strongly disagreed. I apologize for the times when I have gone too far; I can get carried away sometimes. Thank you all again for thinking of me.

glad to hear you are out of the hospitals. Take your time, relax and get better.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

What is the relationship between theaters and physical media?

directly there is not one indirectly

1)"good" movies make it to theatres, "bad" movies direct to video and people are usually willing to buy and spend more for "good" movies. So the theatrical presentation does work as a pre-cursor to sales

2)obviously for the last year or so things might be a bit different and this is just a model, things can change a bit for different films but



roughly 1/3 of all income to the studio for films come from theatrical presentations. That means it has a vey large impact on potential budget and fiscal capabilities of a studio and so its demise would have a large impact on content no matter the home media chosen.

Seems like in the past theaters were the main obstacle preventing movies from being released on disc earlier but with the shortening of the exclusive theatrical window will discs be released earlier?

don't know.

If it somehow gets to a point where there's only streaming and disc would more people be inclined to purchase physically to have the best movie-watching experience?

no, why would it make a difference? If someone does not care about quality why would no theatrical presentation make them change their mind?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Hopefully Top Gun: Maverick and No Time To Die will released in 2021, are good movies and do well at the box office. Any other tentpole movies in the pipeline?

Not tentpole but The Father (Anthony Hopkins) looks superb.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by syndicate

With Amazon buying MGM how do you see the future of the future of Physical Media, Watching TV Shows, Going To The Movies, etc..... Beside what would happen to James Bond and how would it go in the future.

Simply nothing will change. I don't see why Amazon owning MGM (which let's face it is only considered a major studio because of its historic significance) will make any difference.

Do you think amazon will say "no" to theatrical presentations as long as theaters play a large part of income generation?

If Amazon is willing to release a bunch of amazon prime originals on BD and you can buy them anywhere why would you think it will be different for MGM?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Dollar Colonel

I don't know why people always criticize the number of streaming providers as a return to cable prices/bundling. You don't need to subscribe to all the services at the same time. Unlike cable, you can cancel anytime you want and resubscribe anytime. (Some folks will argue there are no contracts "for now" but I'd rather worry about it when it happens.)

1) I am the type of person that can wait for the cont5ent to come to my choice. But not everyone is that way. How will they be able to talk about show A around the water cooler if they are not watching it?

2) I don't know about where you live but my sister has always changed the channels she is subscribed to twice a year at her cottage. In the winter when they don't have the time to go there it gets trimmed to just basic and in the summer when they are basically living there they go with the same package they have at home.

[JohnAV]

Box Office: ‘In the Heights’ Battling ‘Quiet Place 2’ for No. 1 - Hollywood Reporter 6/12

Jon M. Chu directed the big-screen adaptation of Lin-Manuel Miranda's musical with an ensemble cast led by Anthony Ramos and Corey Hawkins.

Warner Bros.’ In the Heights won the Friday box office race, earning $5 million — including Thursday previews — for a projected weekend start in the $12 million to $13 million range. That’s lower than expected and puts the feel-good movie race in a close race with holdover A Quiet Place Part II.

Jon M. Chu, the force behind box office hit Crazy Rich Asians, directs the big screen adaptation of the musical that put Hamilton creator Lin-Manuel Miranda on the map.

Like all 2021 Warner Bros. titles, In the Heights is debuting simultaneously on HBO Max because of the challenges posed by the pandemic. It is impossible to know exactly how much business that is taking away in terms of box office grosses, but the musical may be more impacted than other genres since musicals often play to older adults. That demo has yet to make a full-fledged return to the multiplex. At the same, they also can have especially long legs.

Anthony Ramos and Corey Hawkins led the ensemble cast in this tale of a corner in Upper Manhattan’s Washington Heights where different members of the close-knit Latinx community pursue their dreams. Leslie Grace, Melisa Barrera, Olga Merediz, Daphne Rubin-Vega, Gregory Diaz IV and Jimmy Smits also star in the critically acclaimed film, which received an A CinemaScore from audiences.

The film is over-indexing on both Coasts, and particularly on the East Coast, where five of the top 10 theaters on Friday came from New York City alone.

The weekend’s other new offering is Sony’s family pic Peter Rabbit 2: The Runaway, which grossed an estimated $4 million on Friday for an estimated debut of $10.2 million. The film received an A CinemaScore.

The summer season is fully underway at the box office as the pandemic recovery continues, although grosses are still more tepid than in past years because of ongoing challenges facing the marketplace, including major theater closures in Canada, and hesitancy among some consumers. (There’s also cannibalization from streamers, such as HBO Max.)

Among holdovers, Paramount’s A Quiet Place Part II is making headlines in its third weekend as it becomes the first film since the COVID-19 crisis struck to cross the $100 million mark domestically.

The horror-thriller grossed $3.7 million on its third Friday for an estimated weekend haul of $12.5 million and a domestic total through Sunday of $109 million.

Warner Bros.’ The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It is looking at third place finish its sophomore outing with $11.5 million.

Disney’s Cruella — which is also available on Disney+ Premier Access for $30 — is likely to round out the top five with weekend earnings of $7 million or so in its third weekend.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Hopefully Top Gun: Maverick and No Time To Die will released in 2021, are good movies and do well at the box office. Any other tentpole movies in the pipeline?

Black Widow, The Eternals, Dune, West Side Story, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Free Guy, Halloween Kills, The Last Duel, Last Night in Soho, Ghostbusters, Nightmare Alley, Matrix 4, The King's Man.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Hopefully Top Gun: Maverick and No Time To Die will released in 2021, are good movies and do well at the box office. Any other tentpole movies in the pipeline?

Top Gun: Maverick was apparently filmed in IMAX, so that's the version to go with, IMO.

I can't wait for both films, though.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Black Widow, The Eternals, Dune, West Side Story, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Free Guy, Halloween Kills, The Last Duel, Last Night in Soho, Ghostbusters, Nightmare Alley, Matrix 4, The King's Man.

From that list, Matrix 4, Halloween Kills (big style) Spidey and The Kings Man.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Top Gun: Maverick was apparently filmed in IMAX, so that's the version to go with, IMO.

I can't wait for both films, though.

Indeed it was (1.9 re. IMDb), at some point I may look into how it was framed. I am curious to see it because:

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Waiting as well, could be my first movie viewing that was shot using the Sony CineAlta Venice camera.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Ender14

Black Widow, The Eternals, Dune, West Side Story, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Free Guy, Halloween Kills, The Last Duel, Last Night in Soho, Ghostbusters, Nightmare Alley, Matrix 4, The King's Man.

Thanks for that, will put them in my reference list.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Thanks for that, will put them in my reference list.

If you like horror, you may want to add Candyman.

[Ender14]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

If you like horror, you may want to add Candyman.

I wasn't sure if that qualified as a tent pole but I'm excited for that as well. Also Antlers.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Ender14

I wasn't sure if that qualified as a tent pole but I'm excited for that as well. Also Antlers.

Hyped for a lot of films this year and next!

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

@gotmule

Thought this may be of interest to you:

I saw that when I bought my Panasonic from him. I was starting to get that itch again, so started catching up with any recent Trinnov or Storm Audio news, but it looks like I nuked the crossover in one my speakers. I have an appointment to take the speaker and the amp feeding them as I believe there may be something weird with the bias or a capacitor in it. The guy I am taking them to in town is truly a Jedi Master with this stuff, so hopefully he gets me back up and running. Since AAD is no longer in business however, I can’t get any parts for them. And if the speaker is toast, that means I will have to replace the mains along with the new Dynaudio center I have been waiting for for about 4 months. That will be an expensive proposition, so I am holding off on scratching the new processor itch again.

For now, my system is down, but I am not complaining, as there are far greater tragedies and obstacles people face in the world today.

[Steedeel]

Went to see ‘Nobody’ starring Bob Odenkirk, so glad I did. Won’t spoil it but it’s thoroughly entertaining and extremely brutal with a great soundtrack. Buying the Blu-ray or 4K disc day one.

4/5

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

I saw that when I bought my Panasonic from him.

I mentioned your subs to Stacey Spears and his response:

Originally Posted by Stacey Spears

Only 8? Poor soul, living in squalor, not sure how they make it through a movie.

Which AVR/SSP? Are they using a Trinnov? Curious how they are configured.

Stacey intends to include some audio test on the new Spears & Munsil UHD HDR Benchmark (Test Disc for 4K) for Atmos and DTS:X and has asked what people are using and how they have their setup configured. Thought you may like to reply when you have the time.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Went to see ‘Nobody’ starring Bob Odenkirk, so glad I did. Won’t spoil it but it’s thoroughly entertaining and extremely brutal with a great soundtrack. Buying the Blu-ray or 4K disc day one.

4/5

glad you enjoyed. But I am not psychologically ready to go to theatres or other public gathering places yet.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

glad you enjoyed. But I am not psychologically ready to go to theatres or other public gathering places yet.

Fair enough. Personally, I couldn’t wait to get back in there. So much so, I was emotional for a good 30 mins.