Foundation (Isaac Asimov) Apple TV+

[unberechenbar]

The trailers look like they are for a video game.

[Cornelius Analog]

I have not read the books, but I like sci-fi and the trailers seem to be pretty good. This looks like it has a pretty decent budget behind it and I saw some actors I like in the trailers. I'll be watching this for sure when it gets released. I read that it was filmed across 6 different countries.

[trevanian]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

The trailers look like they are for a video game.

I've been stunned by how generic most space battles look this past decade. Everything seems to run at the same speed, the only variance seems to be the amount of excess fill light, which further reduces credibility. I swear, sometimes I think uprezzed B5 would play more engagingly than a lot of what passes for the current state of the art. And I know that's the case with a lot of 20th century miniature motion control photography.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

Foundation — Official Teaser 2 | Apple TV+ - YouTube

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

The trailers look like they are for a video game.

That's because video games have become more cinematic. In my opinion, I liked video games more when they were less like movies and concentrated more on actual gameplay, but that is for another thread. I don't think I've seen any game that looks this good though.

Originally Posted by trevanian

I've been stunned by how generic most space battles look this past decade. Everything seems to run at the same speed, the only variance seems to be the amount of excess fill light, which further reduces credibility. I swear, sometimes I think uprezzed B5 would play more engagingly than a lot of what passes for the current state of the art. And I know that's the case with a lot of 20th century miniature motion control photography.

I like those old shows too, but I think many TV series and movies are moving away from ships flying in space the same way they would in an atmosphere and going with a more realistic approach like The Expanse for instance.

[Cornelius Analog]

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

That's because video games have become more cinematic. In my opinion, I liked video games more when they were less like movies and concentrated more on actual gameplay, but that is for another thread. I don't think I've seen any game that looks this good though.

I don't mind games that look cinematic. Games today look a lot better and more realistic today than they did some years ago of course.

But what I mind is when movies look too much like games, like some of the super hero movies for example. That's probably why I'm not that big of a fan of many superhero movies these days (bad CGI, unrealistic CGI etc.). They look fake and like video games, and at that point, I'd rather put on a video game and play that instead of watching a movie that looks like game.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by Cornelius Analog

I don't mind games that look cinematic. Games today look a lot better and more realistic today than they did some years ago of course.

It's not the look that bothers me. I just want to actually play the games, not watch a 15 minute cinema cut scene every so often. If I wanted that, I'd just go watch a movie.

Originally Posted by Cornelius Analog

But what I mind is when movies look too much like games, like some of the super hero movies for example. That's probably why I'm not that big of a fan of many superhero movies these days (bad CGI, unrealistic CGI etc.). They look fake and like video games, and at that point, I'd rather put on a video game and play that instead of watching a movie that looks like game.

I just think the "looks like a video game" criticism has been used too often. It's become a generic canned response to anything that is obviously CGI. I think the trailer for Foundation looks amazing, and I haven't seen a video game look like that. But what do I know, I used to watch Buck Rogers. Same with video games. I grew up playing Final Fantasy and Zelda on the NES.

My concerns regarding Foundation are more story-based. This looks to be more "inspired by the Foundation books" than an adaptation of the books themselves.

[Cornelius Analog]

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

It's not the look that bothers me. I just want to actually play the games, not watch a 15 minute cinema cut scene every so often. If I wanted that, I'd just go watch a movie.

I agree, I'm not a fan of long cut scenes either. I prefer to be playing the game instead. I like when the game itself and the actual gameplay looks cinematic, depending on the type of game of course.

Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

I just think the "looks like a video game" criticism has been used too often. It's become a generic canned response to anything that is obviously CGI. I think the trailer for Foundation looks amazing, and I haven't seen a video game look like that. But what do I know, I used to watch Buck Rogers. Same with video games. I grew up playing Final Fantasy and Zelda on the NES.

My concerns regarding Foundation are more story-based. This looks to be more "inspired by the Foundation books" than an adaptation of the books themselves.

I'm not against CGI. CGI is commonplace in many or most movies today. I guess it comes down to how it is implemented in various movies/series. Some movies succeed at it while others fail in my opinion. I often like realistic looking CGI that's not really noticeable as being CGI. I guess that I'm not a fan of obvious cartoony looking CGI, which is why I'm not crazy about some superhero movies, where the CGI is not just backgrounds but main characters too sometimes.

The Foundation trailer looks pretty good and I didn't have any complaints about the CGI there, based on what I saw.

I used to watch Buck Rogers on tv back in the day also, when it originally aired.