Kino Lorber Studio Classics

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by dvining

Are the numbers on the inner ring of the disc identical?

With mine.

Old: last - 2990
New: last 4 - 2370

[captveg]

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

Heart of Midnight (1988) (BD) (DVD still available)
Spellbinder (1988) (BD)
Tales of Terror (1962) (BD) (DVD still available)

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

Not available due to legal issues.

Oh please. How much could it possibly cost to resolve these “legal” issues? A million dollars?

(I’m choosing to believe the issue is that the rights are with another label.)

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Oh please. How much could it possibly cost to resolve these “legal” issues? A million dollars?

(I’m choosing to believe the issue is that the rights are with another label.)

"Legal issues" usually indicates that there are outstanding legal issues/disagreements/ongoing lawsuits that are preventing the title from being released; it's often about disputed ownership of rights, etc.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Oh please. How much could it possibly cost to resolve these “legal” issues? A million dollars?

(I’m choosing to believe the issue is that the rights are with another label.)

Clearly you’re not much of a businessperson. Sometimes certain estates don’t want to approve of releases, or they want too much money which would kill any profit to be made by releasing it.

[cloudnine]

Originally Posted by ShellBeacher

"Legal issues" usually indicates that there are outstanding legal issues/disagreements/ongoing lawsuits that are preventing the title from being released; it's often about disputed ownership of rights, etc.

The unusual thing is that in this case (The Babysitter) it was released on VHS and Laser Disc without a problem, and now....?

[RCRochester]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Oh please. How much could it possibly cost to resolve these “legal” issues? A million dollars?

(I’m choosing to believe the issue is that the rights are with another label.)

Whatever the legal issues are, it's not something that Kino, as an independent licensee, would have any involvement in or be in any position to resolve.

[iamnoone]

Originally Posted by cloudnine

The unusual thing is that in this case (The Babysitter) it was released on VHS and Laser Disc without a problem, and now....?

Not sure if it is the case here, but there are numerous cases of films being cleared originally for clearly defined broadcast, laser and VHS, but no mention of any future media formats not created at that time. Even "Looking For Mr. Goodbar" had VHS and laser releases, but nothing further, as the music rights weren't cleared for anything after that, and now would cost a fortune, as the music publishers know they have the upper hand and have them by the b***s. A lot of times it's music clearance issues, but not always.

Every film and contract is different, though; could be an estate, or the owner of a novel, or whatever has surfaced.

There are countless films that made it to VHS, and never DVD because of legal issues. Many never even could get a VHS release because only theatrical and broadcast was licensed, or even just theatrical.

Trust me, KLI knows when a legal issue is a legal issue.

[BunyipPouch]

Originally Posted by cloudnine

The unusual thing is that in this case (The Babysitter) it was released on VHS and Laser Disc without a problem, and now....?

Most of the time it'd be music rights, right?

Those songs aren't licensed infinitely.

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Oh please. How much could it possibly cost to resolve these “legal” issues? A million dollars?

(I’m choosing to believe the issue is that the rights are with another label.)

Kino should obviously hire you as their President & CEO.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

Coming September 28th!

Illustrious Corpses (1976) aka The Context
• 4K Restoration from the Original Camera Negative
• NEW Audio Commentary by Filmmaker Alex Cox
• English and Italian Theatrical Trailers
• In Italian with Optional English Subtitles

Color 121 Minutes 1.85:1 Rated PG
From Francesco Rosi, the masterful director of Salvatore Giuliano, Hands Over the City, The Mettei Affair, Christ Stopped at Eboli and Lucky Luciano, comes the politically charged crime thriller Illustrious Corpses (aka The Context). Cinema icon Lino Ventura (The Sicilian Clan, Razzia Sur La Chnouf) stars as Inspector Rogas, a detective assigned to investigate the mysterious murders of some Supreme Court judges. During the investigation he discovers a conspiracy that involves the Italian Communist Party. Beautifully photographed by Pasqualino De Santis (Romeo and Juliet), this gripping neo-noir takes what Rosi called “a trip through the monsters and monstrosities of power.” The stellar international cast includes Tino Carraro (The Cat o’ Nine Tails), Marcel Bozzuffi (The Valdez Horses), Paolo Bonacelli (Midnight Express), Alain Cuny (Emmanuelle), Luigi Pistilli (For a Few Dollars More), Renato Salvatori (Luna), Tina Aumont (Fellini’s Casanova), Fernando Rey (Seven Beauties), Max von Sydow (Needful Things) and Charles Vanel (The Wages of Fear).

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Nice! Is Illustrious Corpses's OCN transfer based on an element MGM has or was this done in Rome?

[bsend]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

I guess I forgot this was a Polygram title.

There's 1 new-to-disc 80s title left to announce and it's a TV movie.

Any chance we get a hint on a genre?

[randian]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

now would cost a fortune, as the music publishers know they have the upper hand and have them by the b***s.

Well, no, as usual the music publishers are morons and fail to understand the iron law of economics: if there are no buyers for your million dollar asset you don't have a million dollar asset.

[iamnoone]

Originally Posted by randian

Well, no, as usual the music publishers are morons and fail to understand the iron law of economics: if there are no buyers for your million dollar asset you don't have a million dollar asset.

We agree, in just other words. The publishers "think" they have the upper hand, but they are actually morons as no one will pay what they are demanding. Yes, the music publishers are 100% idiots.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by Kino Lorber Insider

Coming September 28th!

• 4K Restoration from the Original Camera Negative
• NEW Audio Commentary by Filmmaker Alex Cox
• English and Italian Theatrical Trailers
• In Italian with Optional English Subtitles

Color 121 Minutes 1.85:1 Rated PG
From Francesco Rosi, the masterful director of Salvatore Giuliano, Hands Over the City, The Mettei Affair, Christ Stopped at Eboli and Lucky Luciano, comes the politically charged crime thriller Illustrious Corpses (aka The Context). Cinema icon Lino Ventura (The Sicilian Clan, Razzia Sur La Chnouf) stars as Inspector Rogas, a detective assigned to investigate the mysterious murders of some Supreme Court judges. During the investigation he discovers a conspiracy that involves the Italian Communist Party. Beautifully photographed by Pasqualino De Santis (Romeo and Juliet), this gripping neo-noir takes what Rosi called “a trip through the monsters and monstrosities of power.” The stellar international cast includes Tino Carraro (The Cat o’ Nine Tails), Marcel Bozzuffi (The Valdez Horses), Paolo Bonacelli (Midnight Express), Alain Cuny (Emmanuelle), Luigi Pistilli (For a Few Dollars More), Renato Salvatori (Luna), Tina Aumont (Fellini’s Casanova), Fernando Rey (Seven Beauties), Max von Sydow (Needful Things) and Charles Vanel (The Wages of Fear).

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Can't wait for this one. This has been one of my most anticipated titles to be released by Kino. Very excited!

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

Not sure if it is the case here, but there are numerous cases of films being cleared originally for clearly defined broadcast, laser and VHS, but no mention of any future media formats not created at that time. Even "Looking For Mr. Goodbar" had VHS and laser releases, but nothing further, as the music rights weren't cleared for anything after that, and now would cost a fortune, as the music publishers know they have the upper hand and have them by the b***s. A lot of times it's music clearance issues, but not always.

Every film and contract is different, though; could be an estate, or the owner of a novel, or whatever has surfaced.

There are countless films that made it to VHS, and never DVD because of legal issues. Many never even could get a VHS release because only theatrical and broadcast was licensed, or even just theatrical.

Trust me, KLI knows when a legal issue is a legal issue.

Added to music rights you can have unpaid lab bills or accumlated years of storage fees where the elements won't be released until paid or banks or creditors preventing access to elements because of undischarged debts or expenses (both apparently the reason Zulu Dawn disappeared from distribution for two decades before Banque Paribas finally accepted a deal). Sometimes it can simply not be worth their time or legal expenses for the small sums involved (the reason some Readers Digest films like It Shouldn't Happen to a Vet and Mr Quilp never made it to DVD and have disappeared from TV).

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by BunyipPouch

Kino should obviously hire you as their President & CEO.

Thank you. I truly believe this matter can be resolved the old fashioned way, with some greased palms and a wink. I don’t know why they haven’t tried this.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by iamnoone

The publishers "think" they have the upper hand, but they are actually morons as no one will pay what they are demanding. Yes, the music publishers are 100% idiots.

When they can ask - and get - $250,000 for the use of a single Beatles or Rolling Stones song and $100,000 for other well known songs, it's not in their interest to devalue their libraries by making fire sale prices deals that everyone else will then want. It's no skin off their nose if a DVD or BD of a film they don't own doesn't come out.

Sometimes it's not even money: Mike Oldfield blocked the use of Tubular Bells on new licensing deals for years because he was pissed off with his deal with Richard Branson giving him a cut of the royalties, which is why it's not on the 1998 Warner Home Video CD of The Exorcist that contained Lalo Schifrin's rejected score.

[randian]

Originally Posted by Aclea

When they can ask - and get - $250,000 for the use of a single Beatles or Rolling Stones song and $100,000 for other well known songs, it's not in their interest to devalue their libraries by making fire sale prices deals that everyone else will then want. It's no skin off their nose if a DVD or BD of a film they don't own doesn't come out.

That might very well be the value for a new production. That isn't the value for an old movie or TV show. Rejecting the notion of different prices for different contexts is very much skin off their nose, because they're devaluing their library all the way to zero.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by randian

That might very well be the value for a new production. That isn't the value for an old movie or TV show. Rejecting the notion of different prices for different contexts is very much skin off their nose, because they're devaluing their library all the way to zero.

No, they're really not. It's a minescule part of their revenue and it's not in their interest to undermine new deals and pricing for a song that could have originally been licensed for film and TV use only for as little as $250. Smaller publishers will work with licensors but the bigger ones with huge turnover - and it's a constantly expanding $11.7b industry ($5.5b in the US alone, $3.2b of that going to just three publishers) - have nothing to gain from it. They don't need it or the perceived knock on devaluation with the income from their catalogs increasing every year (by at least 30% over a five year period).

[gudemameshiba]

Originally Posted by gudemameshiba

Okay, some Universal pre-code spitballing here:

I forgot about "Part Two":

[Show spoiler]On the whole these are less likely than the first batch, but what the heck:

Sensation Seekers (1927): already released by Kino Classics!

Outside the Law (1930): directed by Tod Browning and with Edward G. Robinson second-billed. It's a possibility, unless what we know rules it out somehow.

Young Desire (1930): Like Outside the Law, it stars Mary Nolan, but in this case she's the biggest name involved, so I'm skeptical that a Blu-ray is impending.

By Candlelight (1933): Unfortunately, this James Whale is seemingly ruled out because Paul Lukas is second-billed (after Elissa Landi, whose name rings out to me, but not so many others).

Destination Unknown (1933): Pat O'Brien and Ralph Bellamy, directed by Tay Garnett. I couldn't begin to guess where KL would land on this one.

Ladies Must Love (1933): a drama about gold-diggers directed by E.A. DuPont, but the top-billed star is June Knight. Can you sell Blu-rays on the strength of an early Neil Hamilton performance?

Little Man, What Now? (1934):

Originally Posted by SanCarolina59

From this year, Little Man, What Now? would seemingly have the strongest chances from this year, given the confirmations of Frank Borzage (this being his only previously released film left) and Margaret Sullavan, and a reference by Kino on their recent release of Desire, which may suggest this film is on their radar.

The Road Back (1937): the original 100-minute version of this sequel to All Quiet on the Western Front (re-released in a cut version in 1939).

Originally Posted by SanCarolina59

The Road Back, directed by James Whale and starring Lionel Atwill. (not too certain on this film being available. I've read there may be potential legal issues with this film)