BDs That Are Out of Print (OOP)

[dtower182]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

The main one, perhaps, is that it's just become so much easier to get dvds and blu rays for cheap. No, maybe not the most popular stuff (Marvel, Star Wars, Disney, etc.), or the boutique stuff (Criterion, Arrow, Shout, etc.), but for most mainstream releases, sales and price drops are everywhere.

Another reason is that the DVD and blu ray markets are circling the drain, and people know it. So paying $20 for what many consider to be a dying format seems too much. (I'd add to this one the steady diminishing of dvd/blu ray extras; it seems like fewer regular releases have much in the way of any substantial extras, meaning you're paying that $20 for the movie and little else.)

It's also the growing popularity of streaming services; people don't understand why anyone would pay more than a month's subscription cost for a single movie.

It's also that so many people, especially younger ones, had gotten so used to the last 15+ years or so of just being able to steal everything online that the concept of having to pay anything at all for movies or whatever is bad enough for them.

Yeah I agree with this. I think all of this is spot on, especially what I highlighted in bold. But I also think there are societal beliefs baked into a lot of things and always have been. I guess some people just see things as needless expense.

I remember when I was younger and I would buy a book and think nothing of it, but my grandparents would ask why didn't I get it from the library - it's cheaper, they'd say, what's the point in keeping it? Or when I bought a DVD and someone would ask why not wait for it to come on TV? I even remember a few years ago when I told a friend of mine that I wanted to go to a Drive-In that was showing American Graffiti near me, and he just looked at me and said what was the point? It was an old film and, plus, you could just watch the film at home.

I have the same kinda thing now; some people I know wonder why I buy blurays at all when you can just stream things. I can talk about quality and about special features, as well as the collecting aspect with packaging, but some of them will just shrug, because it's not important to them. Which is absolutely fine; sometimes I wonder if I spend too much on films myself, to be honest! But I've always loved films, restorations, seeing how things are made, artwork, etc.

I think it's just what you prioritise. Like everyone here I love films and everything to do with them, so $20 doesn't seem that much to me, I guess.

(I hope all of that made sense. Looking back I think I waffled a little there's a point in there somewhere, I think!)

[houseca]

Streaming is perfect if you just want something to watch. You can browse all the films available and always find something good. However, if there is something specific you want to watch, well... that can often get frustrating finding it. Whenever I tell friends/family they have to see a certain movie... often the response is: It's not on Hulu, It's not on Netflix... Disney+... Tubi.... etc. "I'll have to wait until they pick it up". Me, I can just go right to my shelf and watch it whenever I want... sound familiar? If you truly love movies, and the total experience that comes with it, there is nothing like owning a library of physical media.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by houseca

Streaming is perfect if you just want something to watch. You can browse all the films available and always find something good. However, if there is something specific you want to watch, well... that can often get frustrating finding it.

And this is another huge factor.

Rarely in my life have I ever been someone who didn't always very specifically know what they wanted to watch next, or at least soon. Always had a backlog. To this day when I sit down to watch a movie, I specifically wanted to watch that movie. Usually I knew a day or more in advance.

I was never really someone who would just pop on Netflix and see what was there and then just pick something and watch it.

Another way of putting it is this: a lot of people (maybe even most people, and certainly most of the ones who love streaming) are more concerned with watching anything at all than something specific. They have their TV/movie time, and they'll fill it with something.

But that's always felt weird to me. The notion of just impulsively deciding to watch something and watching it. If I don't want to watch something specific at any given point, I don't watch anything, and I do something else.

[dtower182]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

And this is another huge factor.

Rarely in my life have I ever been someone who didn't always very specifically know what they wanted to watch next, or at least soon. Always had a backlog. To this day when I sit down to watch a movie, I specifically wanted to watch that movie. Usually I knew a day or more in advance.

I was never really someone who would just pop on Netflix and see what was there and then just pick something and watch it.

Another way of putting it is this: a lot of people (maybe even most people, and certainly most of the ones who love streaming) are more concerned with watching anything at all than something specific. They have their TV/movie time, and they'll fill it with something.

But that's always felt weird to me. The notion of just impulsively deciding to watch something and watching it. If I don't want to watch something specific at any given point, I don't watch anything, and I do something else.

Yep. I'm the same. Like tonight - I knew I wanted to finally continue watching the Friday the 13th boxset, and knew I'd watch part 2 this evening.

On the rare occasion I have scrolled through Netflix or Prime etc without knowing what to watch, I've come away not having watched anything, or not really being invested; kinda betwixt and in between.

Like you, I need to know what I'm watching, to have a real idea.

[joonskeezle]

Originally Posted by dtower182

Yep. I'm the same. Like tonight - I knew I wanted to finally continue watching the Friday the 13th boxset, and knew I'd watch part 2 this evening.

On the rare occasion I have scrolled through Netflix or Prime etc without knowing what to watch, I've come away not having watched anything, or not really being invested; kinda betwixt and in between.

Like you, I need to know what I'm watching, to have a real idea.

My experience with streaming platforms boils down to one of two things:

1. Every time I've ever subscribed or stayed subbed to a streaming service, it was for a specific show. Like right now, I'm subbed to Hulu, and it's for Letterkenny and nothing else, because I never want to be not watching Letterkenny. Hell I'm surprised I'm not watching Letterkenny right now.

2. Sometimes I will browse to see what's there (on my way to watching the thing I specifically logged on to watch), but it's not so much to watch it impulsively but to file it away for later. I may watch five or ten minutes of something if I'm really curious. (Especially if it's something that's available on blu ray.) But then it's back to whatever I intended to watch when I opened the app.

[Hellhound]

[dylrichard02]

This seems to be OOP. Haven't seen it available in months. US version.

[sandman slim]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

This seems to be OOP. Haven't seen it available in months. US version.

Region free alternative:

Got my copy from Amazon, around $25 iirc.

[jzbadblood]

Originally Posted by joonskeezle

And this is another huge factor.

Rarely in my life have I ever been someone who didn't always very specifically know what they wanted to watch next, or at least soon. Always had a backlog. To this day when I sit down to watch a movie, I specifically wanted to watch that movie. Usually I knew a day or more in advance.

I was never really someone who would just pop on Netflix and see what was there and then just pick something and watch it.

Another way of putting it is this: a lot of people (maybe even most people, and certainly most of the ones who love streaming) are more concerned with watching anything at all than something specific. They have their TV/movie time, and they'll fill it with something.

But that's always felt weird to me. The notion of just impulsively deciding to watch something and watching it. If I don't want to watch something specific at any given point, I don't watch anything, and I do something else.

I feel this hardcore. Something will spark me to think about an unwatched movie in my collection and it'll be on the list to watch next. I don't find watching films to be a time passing hobby its more of a vested interest. I don't passively watch movies like that.

[dylrichard02]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

Region free alternative:

Got my copy from Amazon, around $25 iirc.

Thank you for sharing, it's about $30 now, but I'll be grabbing it. All the same special features+Beyond!

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Torrente

Also, we always forget to take inflation rate into consideration when we compare msrp prices.
20$ now is not the same as 20$ in the 80's.

Yeah it get complicated. First, pretty simply, $20 in 1983 is $54 today so those 'cheap' VHS, even the few that there were for the time that they were, were pretty expensive still.

But then, more complicated, middle class buying power seems to have changed and appears to have declined, even moreso when considering most households now have two full salaries while many in 1983 only had a single salary or maybe a a full single and a much smaller secondary. If I think of some of the presents I got back then like $2480 computer system, $900 VCR, $850 computer, $2450 camcorder, etc. and put them into today's money they would be around $6080, $2100, $2298, $4660 which somehow sounds a feels quite a decent bit more expensive today than those prices felt back then and not sure I could imagine I'd have gotten stuff of that price today.

But then it gets even more complicated when you realize that some things, mostly electronics type stuff has gotten vastly cheaper to produce, so you can get high end stuff for much less today.

And then even more complex is that lots of electronics and appliances have a cheaper more throw away build these days and sometimes don't last as long.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by dylrichard02

If I want coffee, I can make some at home and safe the $$$. Somehow I save more money than my sister who works more hours than me at the same pay rate, yet I am buying at least $200 at month in blu-rays/4Ks. Granted, I know not everyone makes the same pay as me, but my sister is an avid Starbucks drinker and goes out to a bar/restaurant 1 or 2 times a week. Still my family thinks I'm crazy for buying movies!

Maybe someone could make a thread on spending habits/how to budget as a collector. It might be valuable, of course that might be a thread already and I'm unaware of it.

When I was little we went on what most considered astonishingly expensive and wild family vacations and yet my dad didn't make any more than many of those who were always stunned. The difference is most people constantly went out to eat, bought somewhat higher end cars, bought tons of fancy clothes and we did none of that and instead went on beyond amazing vacations that leave memories for a lifetime.

[noirjunkie]

This is out of print. There's still a few cheap used copies on Amazon, so if you want it, I'd jump on it.

[orangerunner]

Originally Posted by WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW

Yeah it get complicated. First, pretty simply, $20 in 1983 is $54 today so those 'cheap' VHS, even the few that there were for the time that they were, were pretty expensive still.

But then it gets even more complicated when you realize that some things, mostly electronics type stuff has gotten vastly cheaper to produce, so you can get high end stuff for much less today.

Trying to calculate and compare price, inflation, value, quality etc over the last 40 years is almost impossible.

In simple terms, my parents bought a house for $80,000 and a VCR for $500. Today the exact same house is worth $1.5 million.

All things being perfectly equal, the VCR (or modern equivalent) should cost $9,375.

[ninebre]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

This is out of print. There's still a few cheap used copies on Amazon, so if you want it, I'd jump on it.

Grabbed the last one. Thank you

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

This is out of print. There's still a few cheap used copies on Amazon, so if you want it, I'd jump on it.

Pretty much all HBO telefilm and miniseries titles (and lots of series titles) on BD were put OOP not long before HBOMax launched.

I own:
Game Change
The Knick: Season 1
The Knick: Season 2
Behind the Candelabra
Mosaic
Mildred Pierce
Luck

all OOP

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by noirjunkie

This is out of print. There's still a few cheap used copies on Amazon, so if you want it, I'd jump on it.

I just got the last new (or any) copy on Amazon.ca for $10.99.

[Member-682067]

Disturbing Behavior. Big hole in my collection for that one.

[houseca]

Originally Posted by TV2693

Disturbing Behavior. Big hole in my collection for that one.

it's been on Goofnut's list.

[Deezer1986]

Airheads

Make it happen.