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Old 08-09-2021, 05:48 PM   #5841
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I actually rank them in the order of release. Every movie is a little worse than the last.

Halloween > Halloween II > Halloween III > Halloween 4 > Halloween 5 > Halloween Curse > Halloween H2O > Halloween Resurrection
We're not too far apart.
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Old 08-09-2021, 06:26 PM   #5842
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Anyone think the full set Shout did back in the day or an updated version will ever be released again? No way I could spend what I think I saw was like $600 for a used set on amazon. I'm thinking about picking up the first five on 4K when they are released as long as the quality is good, but kind of wish that there was a full box set to purchase with all of the extras.
I don't see the full set going back in print anytime soon, nor do I see an updated one happening for quite a while.

For starters, Lionsgate doesn't license, and thanks to their acquisition of Spyglass, they have the two Rob Zombie films. Yes, I know those films are, ahem, polarizing, to say the least, but they're part of the franchise's history, and they shouldn't be left out.

Plus, we've now got the David Gordon Green trilogy in the works. I know it's the reason given as to why Child's Play 2 and 3 aren't coming from SF, but I'm not entirely sold on the "Universal won't license out titles from active franchises" reasoning. We wouldn't have gotten a UHD of Tremors from Arrow in that case. But I could see it being valid here. And that's assuming that there won't be more films after Green wraps up his series, which won't happen (as long as there's money to be made, they will keep making films; the series is already a choose-your-own-adventure timeline at this point, what's another reboot?).

It's also up in the air about what's going on with Curse, H20 and Resurrection. We haven't seen any Miramax titles get licensed out since Paramount took over the distribution, so we don't really know for sure whether Paramount can license them, or if that's beIN Media Group's call. If it is Paramount's call, then the question becomes whether they'd be willing to license them or not. We've seen other licensing deals Paramount has made dry up (namely with Criterion) as they've been focusing on their own home video releases. And even if they did continue to license out to SF, would that also include UHD rights, which they haven't licensed out thus far. I know that Cliff's comments on that podcast could be interpreted to suggest that they are coming at a later date, and they've already got plenty of extras at their disposal to include, but I won't believe they're coming until they're announced (or a Canadian online retailer leaks it).

That said, it does look like all of the previously released extras from the SF box set for these movies (minus the Criterion commentary, the HHG episode and the On Location featurette, all for the first movie, and all of which can be found on other releases outside the box) are all included, and the discs for the Rob Zombie films were basically what were released individually, so if they do eventually release 6, 7 and 8, all their extras would be easily available again.

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1. Halloween (1978) - 10/10
2. Halloween 2 (1981) - 8/10
3. Halloween H20: 20 Years Later - 7/10
4. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers - 5/10
5. Halloween (2018) - 4/10
6. Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers - 3/10
7. Halloween 3: Season of the Witch - 2/10
8. Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers - 1/10
9. Halloween (2007) - 1/10
10. Halloween 2 (2009) - 0.5/10
11. Halloween: Resurrection - 0/10
Halloween (1978)
Halloween III: Season Of The Witch
Halloween II (1981)
Halloween (2018)
Halloween 4: The Return Of Michael Myers
Halloween H20: 20 Years Later
Halloween 5: The Revenge Of Michael Myers
Rob Zombie's Halloween
Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers
Halloween: Resurrection
Rob Zombie's Halloween II

That's my current ranking.
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Old 08-09-2021, 06:47 PM   #5843
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Halloween (1978)
Halloween II (1981)

Everything else is awful.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:00 PM   #5844
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SF was planning to reissue the entire mega-set, with 2018, and with empty case placeholders for Kills and Ends but the deal couldn't be finalized in time for this year. Maybe next year with everything in 4K?
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:05 PM   #5845
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Maybe they'll try doing that come the home video release of Halloween Ends.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:12 PM   #5846
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Since we're ranking Halloween movies, I might as well throw my mine up;

1. Halloween (1978)
2. Halloween 5
3. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
4. Halloween II (1981)
5. Halloween (2018)
6. Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later
7. Halloween III: Season of the Witch
8. Halloween 6: The Curse of Michael Myers
9. Halloween Resurrection
10. Halloween II (2009)
11. Halloween (2007)

Yes, I like Halloween 5 enough to put it second to the original. I'm weird I admit it. But really my rankings don't necessarily reflect the overall quality of the film itself, just how much I personally enjoy it and personally, HII-H5 and H20 are all about the same to me quality wise. And it's only H6, Resurrection and the two Zombie films that I find to be really lacking.

Objectively speaking Halloween 2018 is the best overall since the original but I haven't had as long to revisit that one (obviously since it's only 3 years old). That one is slowly making it's way up the list so who knows, in 5-6 years it could be #2.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:21 PM   #5847
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I've read an interview w/Dan Farrands where said in the P-Cut when Kara says to Michael, "The baby is yours", his intention was the baby is a dedication to Michael and "his to kill to eliminate his bloodline." But I see why some interpret Michael impregnated Jamie. It's sloppily edited.
I’d like to read that interview. Do you have a link to it?

I remember in the Producer’s Cut commentary Farrands said he was surprised when people started talking about Michael being the father of Jamie’s baby since he didn’t intend for that to be the case. He said he wanted Michael’s evil to be transferred to Jamie which somehow creates the baby in her. Maybe it wasn’t his intention to make Michael the biological father but to me it seems pretty obvious that’s the case in the P-Cut. There’s nothing in the movie that suggests the baby is the result of “evil transference.” And the line “The baby is yours, isn’t it?” doesn’t sound ambiguous to me at all. If the baby was the result of a nonsexual transference of evil, how would Kara even know that?

All of this is a bit silly to me no matter which way it’s interpreted. Michael having sex with his niece or transferring his evil to her which results in a supernatural Thorn baby is too much for my tastes. I prefer how the theatrical cut implies that Jamie’s baby was the result of a genetic experiment, most likely using Michael’s DNA since Wynn was trying to harvest evil. That to me is a less ludicrous proposition.
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Old 08-09-2021, 07:55 PM   #5848
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My ranking:

1) H4 - The perfect Halloween movie

2) HIII

3) H6 - The best style and atmosphere of them all

4) HII

5) H1 - Don't get me wrong, I still love it

6) H5 - Definitely worse than everything above, but definitely better than everything below

7) H20

8) RZH2 - It's grown on me

9) H'18 - Dogshit

10) RZH

11) HR - Abomination

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Old 08-09-2021, 07:55 PM   #5849
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My ranking:

Halloween II (1981)
Halloween (1978)
Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers
Halloween III: Season of the Witch
Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers (both cuts)
Halloween H20
Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers
Halloween (2018)
Halloween Resurrection
Halloween (2007)
Halloween II (2009)
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Old 08-09-2021, 08:58 PM   #5850
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Oh we’re ranking again?

1. 1978, RZH2 DC, H3
2. H4
3. The rest
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:27 PM   #5851
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Oh we’re ranking again?

1. 1978, RZH2 DC, H3
2. H4
3. The rest
A fellow RZH2 lover.

I think that movie's incredible.
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Old 08-09-2021, 09:50 PM   #5852
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Yeah I think the theatrical cut also implies that Dr. Wynn and his cult were just fascinated by Michael's evil and were experimenting on... something. Which then explains why Michael just randomly kills them during the operation scene without having killed the baby (his final relative) first. Dr Wynn says to Dr. Loomis "You were the first one to see it. You recognised its power. Evil. Pure, uncorrupted, ancient. I have my plans for this baby. Jamie's baby, will be the dawn of a new age". But it was not made clear on what they were really trying to do with the baby. The producer's cut does make Michael seem more weak by showing Michael getting pulled into the van in 1989, and just standing there as the cult makes the ritual or the very anticlimactic ending where Tommy uses "the power of the runes" to stop him. The theatrical cut instead features the more brutal side of him with the ending and reshoot death scenes.
That’s why I prefer the theatrical cut. It removed most of the cult explanation and turned Michael into a relentless and uncontrollable killer instead of a lapdog for the cult.
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So all five UHDs are down to $30 and change on Amazon.ca so I just pre-ordered all of them.

Now I'm even more excited for these.

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Old 08-09-2021, 10:50 PM   #5854
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I'm just here for the people repping RZH2. It's uneven as heck but so ambitious.
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I had no idea that the 2018 sequel was as hated around here. I thought it was great. But I'm not a die hard fan of the series beyond the original masterpiece, and didn't care for anything past IV, really.
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I dare not post my ranking of this series. I’ll be run out of the forum on a rail.
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I dare not post my ranking of this series. I’ll be run out of the forum on a rail.
Do it.
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SF was planning to reissue the entire mega-set, with 2018, and with empty case placeholders for Kills and Ends but the deal couldn't be finalized in time for this year. Maybe next year with everything in 4K?
Where did you hear about this?
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I had no idea that the 2018 sequel was as hated around here. I thought it was great. But I'm not a die hard fan of the series beyond the original masterpiece, and didn't care for anything past IV, really.
2018 is by far the best Myers sequel imo, but I also think it's majorly overrated.
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Also... My ranking:

1. H1 (1978)
2. H3
3. H2018
4. H20
5. H2 (1981)
6. H6
7. H4
8. H8
9. H2 (2009)
10. H1 (2007)
11. H5
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