Who Framed Roger Rabbit 4K UHD (1988)

[ZANTHERA]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Dialogue is looped all the time in movies. I don’t doubt you re: the overdubs for language in this case (I do that lip reading thing as well when dialogue doesn’t seem to match up ) but sometimes a take would’ve been replaced for more prosaic reasons too.

Yeah I suppose that could be it for that last one that doesn't seem to be different with the wording, the others are definitely censors.

Could you explain what I asked in the first half of my long reply please? about how VistaVision made it so there was little degradation.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by ZANTHERA

Yeah I suppose that could be it for that last one that doesn't seem to be different with the wording, the others are definitely censors.

Could you explain what I asked in the first half of my long reply please? about how VistaVision made it so there was little degradation.

Whenever you do an optical you're losing several generations of quality, reducing detail and increasing grain. To mitigate these effects VFX houses shot on larger formats of film like VistaVision and 65mm, it's the basic principle of oversampling: you start with more detail and finer grain so when they get printed down into the final 4-perf dupe neg they've maintained a level of quality that, if not quite equal to the 1st generation footage, isn't far behind it. (Though in some cases the 65mm VFX actually looks BETTER than the main unit footage, Ghostbusters is one of the few movies in history where the opticals improve picture quality!)

[ZANTHERA]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

VistaVision is 35mm filmed with an image size about 19x35mm as opposed to the normal widescreen 35mm sound print image which is 11x21mm, so you get a better starting image quality for the SFX work, same principle as using 70mm for Star Trek: TMP, CE3K, Blade Runner, etc SFXs, but with more common 35mm gauge stock instead of 65mm gauge stock.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Whenever you do an optical you're losing several generations of quality, reducing detail and increasing grain. To mitigate these effects VFX houses shot on larger formats of film like VistaVision and 65mm, it's the basic principle of oversampling: you start with more detail and finer grain so when they get printed down into the final 4-perf dupe neg they've maintained a level of quality that, if not quite equal to the 1st generation footage, isn't far behind it. (Though in some cases the 65mm VFX actually looks BETTER than the main unit footage, Ghostbusters is one of the few movies in history where the opticals improve picture quality!)

Thanks both of you, great explanation and helps put my mind at ease about the quality of it. Here's hoping the DNR isn't too noticeable or better still not done at all like it seems to be with the non toon scenes.