Offical Neon Genesis Evangelion Info/Update Thread

[Tylerfan]

First Feliz Jueves and now this. Asuka is the gift that keeps on giving.

[SoliquidForLife]

Due to it specifying the "international re-release" does that suggest that the U.S. release will have 'Fly Me To The Moon'? The language is heavily complicated.

[kevers7290]

Originally Posted by SoliquidForLife

Due to it specifying the "international re-release" does that suggest that the U.S. release will have 'Fly Me To The Moon'? The language is heavily complicated.

It will not, unfortunately.

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by SoliquidForLife

Due to it specifying the "international re-release" does that suggest that the U.S. release will have 'Fly Me To The Moon'? The language is heavily complicated.

No. Any reference to "international" means outside of Japan.

[Blastar]

Originally Posted by Chiyo_chichi

Its a fair complaint, I think. I buy physical media for the preservation, optimal pq/aq is important, but only if its for something that appeals to me. This won't be the last time Evangelion gets released anyway...

Pretty much this.

FMTTM is a pretty serious omission. And I'd be lying if I said that didn't perturb me at all. But if Netflix wasn't going to spend the dough for it (and they paid for a re-dub) then can't be really surprised no one else would either. Still a bit odd no one attempted to negotiate anything in regards to the rights (or maybe they did I surely don't know). Maybe we'll get lucky with a re-release, but I have doubts on the longevity of physical media.

Though seeing how fast the ultimate edition sold out here, obviously this will be a profitable release. You can be sure folks will be snatching this stuff up due to the artificial scarcity of Evanjellyion being unavailable overseas for so long.

We'll see if the more layman editions have the ADV dub or not. If not that'll be an easy pass for me, unless a standard set becomes dirt cheap.



Guess those NGE DVDs were a good investment for those who bought em. Wish the Gundam DVDs I paid like $25+ for 3-4 episodes back in the day were worth anything more then coasters.

And at least the Rebuild odyssey is over. Good grief 14 years for a lukewarm remake just so there can be a happy ending.

[neoz]

The fans should do a crowd fund and just get the license to the rights since no one wants to add it to the international release haha.

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[svenge]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Lawyers would also descend everywhere once they quickly learn about Fly Me to the Moon being in there when it wasn't licensed.

This makes me wonder what if anything happened to Funimation due to their (apparently mistaken) inclusion of the Evangelion 1.0 trailers w/ Hikaru Utada's rendition of "Fly Me to the Moon" in the first pressing of their 1.11 BD/DVD releases. Obviously they executed a stealth downgrade in the second printing (as its rear cover art was still technically accurate in mentioning "trailers" in its list of included bonus features, even if there were fewer present as compared to the first pressing) but beyond that I don't remember anything else happening.

Of course I wouldn't be surprised if that snafu wasn't one of the things Khara took into account when cutting off their business relationship with Funimation, but I would surmise that the entire 3.33 dubbing fiasco was a bigger influence.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by Magikor

Nah, I can read just fine. The comment you were responding to was making a general statement you decided to take offense to. So with all DUE respect, bite me

No it was directed at me since I am the only one who was posting about it. So apparently you can't read.

[gundamcero]

This thread is even more childish than Shinji.

[Magikor]

Originally Posted by kk1

No it was directed at me since I am the only one who was posting about it. So apparently you can't read.

You're definitely not the only person who was posting about purchasing the Japanese set because it includes FMttM. But okay

[Tylerfan]

Originally Posted by gundamcero

This thread is even more childish than Shinji.

At least he has the excuse that he’s fourteen. What do we have?

[Steven11788]

so does the UK version only ship to UK. see that version is still in stock.

[kk1]

Originally Posted by Magikor

You're definitely not the only person who was posting about purchasing the Japanese set because it includes FMttM. But okay

I was on the page he posted but if you want to dig through the thread and try to find someone else to prove me wrong go ahead, but you won't because you can't. I know he didn't dig back through the thread to find other people. But okay keep trying to justify being an ass.

[LordCrumb]

Why would the 'classic' dub be on a different set of discs and not just an additional audio track?

[kk1]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Why would the 'classic' dub be on a different set of discs and not just an additional audio track?

Obviously so not every version has it and they can charge more for those that do.

[BigOnAnime]

Originally Posted by IRLM

I think it's funny how words like "artistic integrity" or "incomplete edited version" are thrown around to complaint about the missing song when at the same time there's this constant preoccupation for the dubs. Crazy when you consider how iconic the original japanese voices and line deliveries are but apparently most of guys here would rather watch the show with a dub, which is as heavy an editorial change as you can get.

We're talking about dubs for one of the most popular, important, influential, and critically-acclaimed anime of all-time. People can get quite attached to these, especially when they've existed for decades. This is how many people first watched the show back when the VHS tapes came out in the mid-1990s, the DVDs in the early 2000s, the Platinum DVDs in the mid-2000s, broadcasts on ADV's The Anime Network, and then there's the one time the series ran on [adult swim]. Neon Genesis Evangelion put ADV Films on the map, and the dub is one of the reasons why. People will forever associate ADV Films with Evangelion, and similarly they will forever associate Manga Entertainment with The End of Evangelion like they already do with Ghost in the Shell (which is what put Manga on the map).

Note the uproar over the Ocean dub for The Vision of Escaflowne, one of Bandai Entertainment's top 5 best-selling anime of all-time (bottom of article). The fan backlash was so immense that FUNimation gave in and included the dub on the standard editions instead of locking it behind the Collector's Edition.

Imagine if Cowboy Bebop got redubbed and the original Animaze dub was locked behind a $275 Ultimate Edition limited to 5,000 units. People would be in a massive uproar, you rarely hear about people watching that show subbed. Now, the Evangelion ADV and Manga dubs don't have the critical acclaim that one does, but you should get the point. Oh and something to keep in mind, some people watch dubs for accessibility reasons because they quite literally cannot watch a show with subtitles because of a disability.

People are also concerned about preservation. Now if the ADV and Manga dubs don't end up in the non-UE release(s), that'll be understandable given how controlling Khara is with the franchise, it'll be on Khara, not GKIDS or anyone else if they're missing. If those dubs don't make it, it will almost guarantee that the DVDs will remain expensive, similar to how the Dragon Boxes for Dragon Ball Z remain expensive because they have something the 9,000+ other releases don't have, the full series uncut in 4:3 in good quality. Enough people care deeply about the ADV and Manga dubs for Evangelion that they'll continue to hang onto their DVDs even if they get the Blu-ray. Heck, the edited DVDs with the DiC dub for Sailor Moon and Sailor Moon R remain rare to this day despite the fact an uncut dub has been out for a good while. You should also see the effort Discotek Media goes through for old and even really obscure dubs because enough people care about them.

[Catbug]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Why would the 'classic' dub be on a different set of discs and not just an additional audio track?

This stumped me at first, but eventually I figured this was the easiest way to have a set of discs with just the official dub and the bonus discs with the ADV/manga dubs. I imagine it’s much less of a pain to print two sets with the official dub set designated as the standard across all the different editions they will have, than if they had one set of discs with both dubs printed just for the limited/ultimate editions and another set with just the one dubs.

Basically, it would only really make sense to do it all on the same set of discs if the classic dubs weren’t a bonus and intended for every edition.

[Glorian]

Originally Posted by kk1

Obviously so not every version has it and they can charge more for those that do.

That's got to be the reason; at least, I can't think of many better ones. But it doesn't quite make sense to me. Let's say the discs are exclusive to the Ultimate Edition; that means that Gkids had to print 5,000 copies of the ADV version and 5,000 copies of the Netflix version. So, in other words, they had to print 5,000 copies of unique discs not otherwise available, plus another 5,000 of what they'd be including in the lesser editions.

But if they combined the tracks on one set of discs, they'd still be printing 5,000 unique discs for the Ultimate Edition. So what is that saving them?

It makes more sense if they're going to be offering them separately, like having a 'classic' Collector's Edition and a 'official/modern' Collector's Edition. Not sure whether they'll do that, though; the wording of them being 'bonus' discs makes me wonder about that.

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by kk1

Obviously so not every version has it and they can charge more for those that do.

I was thinking that would be the most obvious answer but also thought there might be some other reason too lol

But yeah, it's so they can slap an 'exclusive' label on it without reauthoring the discs.

[Catbug]

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

We're talking about dubs for one of the most popular, important, influential, and critically-acclaimed anime of all-time. People can get quite attached to these, especially when they've existed for decades. This is how many people first watched the show back when the VHS tapes came out in the mid-1990s, the DVDs in the early 2000s, the Platinum DVDs in the mid-2000s, broadcasts on ADV's The Anime Network, and then there's the one time the series ran on [adult swim].

NGE was the first anime I ever watched in high school (really it was DBZ among others, but I don’t count the stuff I grew up watching on toonami). It was extremely influential and it sparked a passion for more thought provoking anime that had more substance than 100 straight episodes of punchy-fighty and crappy dialogue. I obsessed over this anime so much, I actually got my grandparents to sit down and watch EoE with me. In retrospect, that wasn’t such a good idea…

Originally Posted by BigOnAnime

Oh and something to keep in mind, some people watch dubs for accessibility reasons because they quite literally cannot watch a show with subtitles because of a disability.

My sister is legally blind and can’t read subbed anime at all. She depends on a decent dub to get her anime fix, and the ADV/Manga dubs are the only way she can fully experience everything NGE has to offer.