Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

I watched this for about the millionth time tonight and I discovered something I never noticed before. When Bob and Linda are having sex, you can hear him say to her "all your base are belong to us". I always wondered where that came from and what it meant; I guess it's his way of conquering...?

I'll be darned.

Did you hear Michael when he replied “You are on the way to destruction. You have no chance to survive make your time”?

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

I don’t think we’re nearly close to that point yet. We thought we were 6 years ago too. Plus, cult horror films have always been huge with physical media collectors, and these releases are already dedicated more to die-hard fans of the franchise than the average consumer. I definitely don’t think this is the last we’ll see of these films on physical. One way or another, they’ll find another way to milk this cash cow since the Halloween franchise is a major tent pole for Scream Factory, just like it was previously for Anchor Bay.

It's really all dependent on two factors for physical media to continue. The first is whether home media manufacturers (Sony, LG, Samsung, etc.) are willing to continue releasing 4K UHD players. I have yet to see an affordable 4K player on the market and the options we do have are slowly drying up. I expect to see only high end niche companies continuing production of 4K players and asking $1000-$2000 for them: See the Reavon UHD Blu-ray players for example. The major players are devoting all their attention and R&D on 8K technology and I see that becoming the dominant factor in the next 5 years.

The second is whether disc manufacturing plants will remain open. We have already seen this impact production of current products in the market going all the way back to 2018. If the pressing plants continue to close, the cost to sell these discs will increase in price until there is nowhere left to go to create the physical medium.

I agree that this is not the last time that Halloween will be reissued, I just think future reissues will be on streaming platforms and they will be barebones releases: you get the "remastered" picture and one audio option (Dolby Atmos and each audio successor that follows). Whatever the results are for this release, it will have to be considered good enough for all of us because this is the work we will see ported over from this point forward.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by JCRW82

It's really all dependent on two factors for physical media to continue. The first is whether home media manufacturers (Sony, LG, Samsung, etc.) are willing to continue releasing 4K UHD players. I have yet to see an affordable 4K player on the market and the options we do have are slowly drying up. I expect to see only high end niche companies continuing production of 4K players and asking $1000-$2000 for them: See the Reavon UHD Blu-ray players for example. The major players are devoting all their attention and R&D on 8K technology and I see that becoming the dominant factor in the next 5 years.

The second is whether disc manufacturing plants will remain open. We have already seen this impact production of current products in the market going all the way back to 2018. If the pressing plants continue to close, the cost to sell these discs will increase in price until there is nowhere left to go to create the physical medium.

I agree that this is not the last time that Halloween will be reissued, I just think future reissues will be on streaming platforms and they will be barebones releases: you get the "remastered" picture and one audio option (Dolby Atmos and each audio successor that follows). Whatever the results are for this release, it will have to be considered good enough for all of us because this is the work we will see ported over from this point forward.

Samsung stopped making disc players full stop a few years ago. No great loss.

[FForFake]

Re: the death of discs, I don't know how much longer we'll have them, but as long as we do, we'll have new versions of Halloween and Evil Dead.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Samsung stopped making disc players full stop a few years ago. No great loss.

My Samsung UHD player has never had a single problem. My only issue is that it doesn't play newer Blu-ray discs.

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by FForFake

Re: the death of discs, I don't know how much longer we'll have them, but as long as we do, we'll have new versions of Halloween and Evil Dead.

Agreed, which is why I see Halloween having maybe one last physical release on the 45th Anniversary (2023). There's not a whole lot more Shout Factory (or whoever ends up owning the licensing at that time) can add unless they spend a mountain of coin getting staff to hunt through the vaults for material and pay the costs to use and compile the material. They have reached the limit for picture quality (unless they completely botch the encoding), the next logical step budget wise is to get the audio done right.

[Gold Ranger]

That sounds like a problem...

[Toddarino]

Originally Posted by dvining

My Samsung UHD player has never had a single problem. My only issue is that it doesn't play newer Blu-ray discs.

A disc player not playing discs sounds like a problem.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by Toddarino

A disc player not playing discs sounds like a problem.

Luckily, my PS4 plays the handful of newer discs in my collection like that. It's irritating, but it's all about not having any firmware updates for three years. And yet, the UHDs play fine, which is weird. I'm okay with it, though.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by dickdarlington

To actually talk about the discs . . .

It looks like DiabolikDVD is preparing to ship. My order changed from Preorder to “Halloween 1-5 All” this morning.

Mine, too! Fingers crossed we get these early!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FForFake

Re: the death of discs, I don't know how much longer we'll have them, but as long as we do, we'll have new versions of Halloween and Evil Dead.

And T2. Always T2.

[FForFake]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And T2. Always T2.

The Holy Trinity of Reissues

[Funcha]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

I watched this for about the millionth time tonight and I discovered something I never noticed before. When Bob and Linda are having sex, you can hear him say to her "all your base are belong to us". I always wondered where that came from and what it meant; I guess it's his way of conquering...?

I'll be darned.

Funny story on that saying. When I worked at a small town newspaper for awhile back in 2003, there was a press release issued from the PD of a nearby town talking about "investigating" some threatening texts posted on a business door reading "All your base are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time." It gave me great pleasure to properly report the origin of that phrase in the morning paper. No arrests were made and I assume it's very much a cold case now.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by JCRW82

It's really all dependent on two factors for physical media to continue. The first is whether home media manufacturers (Sony, LG, Samsung, etc.) are willing to continue releasing 4K UHD players. I have yet to see an affordable 4K player on the market and the options we do have are slowly drying up. I expect to see only high end niche companies continuing production of 4K players and asking $1000-$2000 for them: See the Reavon UHD Blu-ray players for example. The major players are devoting all their attention and R&D on 8K technology and I see that becoming the dominant factor in the next 5 years.

The second is whether disc manufacturing plants will remain open. We have already seen this impact production of current products in the market going all the way back to 2018. If the pressing plants continue to close, the cost to sell these discs will increase in price until there is nowhere left to go to create the physical medium.

I agree that this is not the last time that Halloween will be reissued, I just think future reissues will be on streaming platforms and they will be barebones releases: you get the "remastered" picture and one audio option (Dolby Atmos and each audio successor that follows). Whatever the results are for this release, it will have to be considered good enough for all of us because this is the work we will see ported over from this point forward.

I bought my Panasonic 420 UHD player for around $200, maybe less.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by dvining

My Samsung UHD player has never had a single problem. My only issue is that it doesn't play newer Blu-ray discs.

My old Samsung blu-ray player was the worst player I ever owned. Stuttered on everything.

The worst DVD player I ever owned way back was Samsung. Stuttered on everything.

The worst TV I ever owned was a Samsung 3D 1080p set. The backlight bleed and clouding was shocking, and the screen developed a flaw in 3D mode months later that resulted in a tech claiming it a total loss (got store credit for that one thankfully, after a major battle with Samsung to approve the credit).

[Kyle15]

There are plenty of players under $200 for the taking that get the job done.
"No afforable players" means you actually haven't ever looked or are a model queen tbh.

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by Kyle15

There are plenty of players under $200 for the taking that get the job done.
"No afforable players" means you actually haven't ever looked or are a model queen tbh.

The cheapest 4K player I have found is around $249 CDN. Even though I didn't mind purchasing a 4K player, a lot of general consumers are going to be turned away from that price point when they can either get a Blu-ray player for $49 CDN or just sell their physical media and go directly to streaming.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by FForFake

Re: the death of discs, I don't know how much longer we'll have them, but as long as we do, we'll have new versions of Halloween and Evil Dead.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And T2. Always T2.

And Terminator 2 will inevitably be missing at least readily available bonus feature for no discernible reason, while the video transfer features something wrong.

[CreasyBear]

When I'm 80, they'll still be new releases of T2...

...and I'll own every single one of them...

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by jayman3

If I'm correct, the latest release from Shout looks to carry over everything from the 2007, 2013, and 2014 Blu-Ray's while omitting On Location: 25 Years Later and the commentary track from 2007 featuring John Carpenter, Jamie Lee Curtis, and Debra Hill.

Let me know if anything has been left out from the list.

Depends on how technical you want to be with missing features. The Criterion laserdisc, for example, also featured an isolated music & effects track that hasn't been brought over to any subsequent release [s]and the superior mono track that has been discussed non-stop[/s].

Originally Posted by mad_max2000

Halloween 4 - Special Edition DVD
*Alan B. McElroy Commentary
*Halloween 4&5 Discussion Panel

Again pointing out this inexpensive release for anyone who wants these two special features and would prefer the commentary track on a HD presentation of the film: