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Old 05-22-2009, 09:02 PM   #5721
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Can anyone actually confirm if the T2 HD master created for the "Extreme Edition" DVD in 2003 was acquired HDV-style in anamorphic 1440 X 1080? I would be pretty shocked if that was the case. I have doubts...
If you're referring to my post that's not what I was saying. I was referring to the liner notes on the Extreme DVD, which indicate that the image was not letterboxed on the master tape- the 2.35:1 image was stretched vertically so it took up the entire 1080 X 1920 pixel real-estate. They go into more detail in the liner notes on the "Extreme DVD", and even have some graphics showing what it looks like on the master tape.

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Old 05-23-2009, 05:08 AM   #5722
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I actually just had some very interesting phone calls on that. More as soon as we can put together something definitive. We believe we've found the culprit, and DNR is NOT it.

We're going to be doing what a REAL scientist does, testing our hypothesis before we say anything and open it up to peer review afterwards
Awesome!
 
Old 05-23-2009, 06:14 AM   #5723
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Don't forget the mispelled tattoo (doh!)
Yep, another reason not to get them.

Like I said, you don't put a bumper sticker on a <insert valueable car here>.

Weird seeing her even *tinier* in the making of A Bug's Life.
 
Old 05-23-2009, 07:13 AM   #5724
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Yes , that’s whom I was referring to. It seems that no matter how they light her and despite what angle they shoot her, she has markedly decreased facial detail (which will serve her well in future years as an actress ) compared to the other cast members, esp. when you see adjacent imagery of her immediate boss (the Afro-American guy) who you can just about count the number of pores on his face or the elderly scientist with his wrinkles.
Weird! Your use of the word "supernatural" made me think of this show more than "Heroes," but I still went with HP as I do not remember her facial detail being any less than than others (with the exception of her boss!) on the show. I guess I'll be paying closer attention to her scenes once the Blu-ray of S1 is released.

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Like I said, you don't put a bumper sticker on a <insert valueable car here>.
I like that! It sums up my feelings toward tattoos perfectly! I'll have to remember that...

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Weird seeing her even *tinier* in the making of A Bug's Life.
You should check out "Remember The Titans" on Blu-ray or "Joe Somebody" on DVD... that latter an automatic purchased should it eventually come out on Blu-ray...

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Old 05-23-2009, 04:44 PM   #5725
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Weird! Your use of the word "supernatural" made me think of this show more than "Heroes," but I still went with HP as I do not remember her facial detail being any less than than others (with the exception of her boss!) on the show. I guess I'll be paying closer attention to her scenes once the Blu-ray of S1 is released.
It's been out for close to a year
 
Old 05-23-2009, 05:57 PM   #5726
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It's been out for close to a year
I was referring to "Fringe"!

"Heroes: Season One" is in the mail right now (along with a second copy of "Heroes: Season Two").

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Old 05-24-2009, 07:53 PM   #5727
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All right fellas, I honestly have to ask; what is the industries impression of the whole BD-Live thing? I don't have many BD-Live titles but, by and large, I find them to be devoid of anything that actually adds any real value to the film I bought. A few high-profile BD-Live releases, such as Iron Man and even T2, don't even HAVE anything available from the sites. All that potential seems to be wasted on the studios putting out these discs.

I've always been a big advocate of including extra material in the discs sets but it seems like BD-Live has gone a step too far and fallen off the edge of the value cliff.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 08:05 PM   #5728
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Two things:

1. Is cable's #1 Drama on TNT, The Closer, ever coming to blu-ray. I know that Warner distributes the show in DVD and I wouldn't expect much from them, but I believe the show is shot on film and would look pretty good for a TV show.

2. I just finished watching T2:Sknyet Edition and the profile 2.0 stuff needs to be saved for after the menu has loaded. I watched this movie over two nights and the second night I disconnected my Sony BDP-2350 from the internet so the load times would improve. The first night I spent nearly 10 minutes glancing at the TV from the kitchen thinking it was loading the movie and the movie was waiting for input from me about interactive menus. Then it gave me my location. Then the menu screen finally loaded. I recall a similar problem with Iron Man. The 2.0 stuff really needs to be saved for after the menu's load.

I got in early on this thread post #56 and really enjoy reading through your responses.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 08:48 PM   #5729
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All right fellas, I honestly have to ask; what is the industries impression of the whole BD-Live thing? I don't have many BD-Live titles but, by and large, I find them to be devoid of anything that actually adds any real value to the film I bought. A few high-profile BD-Live releases, such as Iron Man and even T2, don't even HAVE anything available from the sites. All that potential seems to be wasted on the studios putting out these discs.
I think everyone thinks that it has huge potential, but no one has quite figured out what to do with it yet. Several studio, especially Disney have thinktanks going that do nothing but come up with cool stuff to do with BD-J/Live

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1. Is cable's #1 Drama on TNT, The Closer, ever coming to blu-ray. I know that Warner distributes the show in DVD and I wouldn't expect much from them, but I believe the show is shot on film and would look pretty good for a TV show.
That's up to Turner

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2. I just finished watching T2:Sknyet Edition and the profile 2.0 stuff needs to be saved for after the menu has loaded. I watched this movie over two nights and the second night I disconnected my Sony BDP-2350 from the internet so the load times would improve. The first night I spent nearly 10 minutes glancing at the TV from the kitchen thinking it was loading the movie and the movie was waiting for input from me about interactive menus. Then it gave me my location. Then the menu screen finally loaded. I recall a similar problem with Iron Man. The 2.0 stuff really needs to be saved for after the menu's load.
Skynet Edition actually does load stuff dynamically. Sounds to me like it's the same problem as with Iron Man, where they didn't get a beefy enough server and it's having trouble handling the load.

The biggest thing that needs to happen IMO is that there needs to be a centralized BD-Live login and server farm structure that can handle the load of these big titles and keep it simple. It's just going to get worse with all these discs phoning home.

Thanks for the kind words
 
Old 05-24-2009, 08:49 PM   #5730
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Jeff, did you dislike the new ST movie as much as I did? It just didn't feel like ST to me. It was an action movie with spectacular effects and bad jokes, really. The only high points of the movie to me were Simon Pegg and Leonard Nimoy.
 
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Jeff, did you dislike the new ST movie as much as I did? It just didn't feel like ST to me. It was an action movie with spectacular effects and bad jokes, really. The only high points of the movie to me were Simon Pegg and Leonard Nimoy.
Don't get him started again (just browse the thread of the weekend the film came out).

As a long time Trekker (and someone almost the exact same age as Bill) I enjoyed it (as did Bill).
 
Old 05-24-2009, 10:44 PM   #5732
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Nah, I'm done
 
Old 05-25-2009, 02:42 AM   #5733
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What did you think of Terminator Salvation. I actually thought it was pretty fun. The "cameo" appearance of you-know-who was very impressive.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 02:59 AM   #5734
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What did you think of Terminator Salvation. I actually thought it was pretty fun. The "cameo" appearance of you-know-who was very impressive.
Thanks for ruining the surprise........
 
Old 05-25-2009, 04:36 AM   #5735
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That was pretty well-known, though. If you know who the "you know who" is without his saying the name, that proves it.

I haven't seen the film or sought out spoilers and I know who the cameo is because I heard about it several times on TV before the film opened.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 05:07 AM   #5736
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That was pretty well-known, though. If you know who the "you know who" is without his saying the name, that proves it.

I haven't seen the film or sought out spoilers and I know who the cameo is because I heard about it several times on TV before the film opened.
Wasn't well known to me. And while I still don't KNOW, it could logically be only one or two people (and really only one).
 
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Yes, but is there any reason to think that any past or upcoming seasons will or will not come to blu-ray? Season 4 is being released this Tuesday with never even a mention for blu-ray. I am one of those people who don't really care if the show is missing S1 on blu so long as I am able to get the latest stuff on blu.

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Skynet Edition actually does load stuff dynamically. Sounds to me like it's the same problem as with Iron Man, where they didn't get a beefy enough server and it's having trouble handling the load.
I am glad that this is true regarding dynamic loading, but if the programmers know that an Internet connection is one of the first checks once the disc is loaded and the plan to press x number of discs for distribution and knowing y number of people who purchase the discs have blu-ray players connected to the internet then Servers should be able to handle a capacity of at least y.

Still I believe the programmers should not even test for an internet connection until the user selects BD Live content. Give the user some credit for knowing what they want and in particular not wishing to spend time waiting for any BD Live content to even begin until the user says so. I greatly dislike programmers who do not give the end user any credit for being able to pick and choose what they want. Garbage in, Garbage out thats what I was taught in programming. Many of us don't want the BD Live stuff at all. I would rather leave my BD player connected to my network at all times so that FW updates are not missed, but now I am reconsidering and going to leave it disconnected waiting for a disc to not play or see that a new FW is available here. For people who don't have a standalong and instead use a PS3 will find that it is often difficult and time consuming to disable the internet connection before playing movies. Sometimes it's not an option to disconnect the wired connection. I beg the studios to employ some type of standard when it comes to BD enabled discs.
 
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Still I believe the programmers should not even test for an internet connection until the user selects BD Live content. Give the user some credit for knowing what they want and in particular not wishing to spend time waiting for any BD Live content to even begin until the user says so.
But the studios want to know what you're looking at and for how long, so they know what features to invest in in the future. Before anyone gets off on the "spying on you" thing, everything is anonymous, they don't care who you are so much as what's getting looked at and how often.

If you don't want the stuff to load, unplug your ethernet or disable internet features. Paramount upped their server game big time after Iron Man, and they've been good to go ever since. This is the first big LG title to use BD Live, and they hit the same wall. A year from now this isn't going to be a problem.
 
Old 05-25-2009, 07:36 AM   #5739
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I think everyone thinks that it has huge potential, but no one has quite figured out what to do with it yet. Several studio, especially Disney have thinktanks going that do nothing but come up with cool stuff to do with BD-J/Live
Perhaps I don't have standing to comment on the subject since my player is not connected to the internet, but it's hard to see how the studios could rationally think there is huge potential if they don't know what that potential is. It all seems like profoundly wasted and misguided effort to me.
 
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Paramount upped their server game big time after Iron Man, and they've been good to go ever since. This is the first big LG title to use BD Live, and they hit the same wall. A year from now this isn't going to be a problem.
I've tried using some of the BD-Live commentary tracks (like David Goyer's track) and video extras for "The Dark Knight" but the load times were far to long. I hope Warner will someday/somehow speed that up. Since you mentioned Paramount, I'll have to try "Tropic Thunder" again to see the extra 'Full Mags' extras which had similar problems as Warner's with loading times.
 
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