IMAX Enhanced - Page 45 - Blu-ray Forum

chip75 · 11-08-2021, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

The films will be shown in 1.90. But as many TV's overscan it will show at 1.85. If your TV is set at zero overscan, you should see the very tiniest of slivers of black bars.

I think most modern sets display Apps at 1:1 pixel mapping.

Modren · 11-08-2021, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

And what I don't get about matey's comment is that the IMAX footage IS in 1.90 in the trailer linked above. The shape of the video file is 1.78 but you can see the little black bars top and bottom to make it up to 1.90.

I put it to full screen on my 1080p monitor and it filled the screen.

EDIT: Just to make sure I wasn't going crazy, I downloaded the trailer and opened it up in VLC. Sure enough, no black bars during the IMAX sections.

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-08-2021, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xbs2034

Seeing Dune at Lincoln Square the 1.43 shifts were quite the spectacle, even though it wasn’t filmed with 15/70 cameras. At smaller IMAX screens or at home, you still feel the shift somewhat, but without quite the same impact.

Scope to 1.44:1 and back would be lousy at home (letterboxing to windowboxing to letterboxing to windowboxing...). If they have to switch ratios, stick with 1.90:1 (center extract for us scope projection people) and scope. Otherwise, just keep it in scope for home viewing.

FilmFreakosaurus · 11-08-2021, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Modren

I put it to full screen on my 1080p monitor and it filled the screen.

Depends on the set's features. Some have a native display option under the picture settings, which eliminates overscan and creates a 1:1 pixel map, which is really what you want.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

I think most modern sets display Apps at 1:1 pixel mapping.

Modern sets. Does that mean 4K TVs? Cause they only have a market penetration of 44%. The other 56% are older HDTVs.

PeterTHX · 11-08-2021, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Scope to 1.44:1 and back would be lousy at home (letterboxing to windowboxing to letterboxing to windowboxing...). If they have to switch ratios, stick with 1.90:1 (center extract for us scope projection people) and scope. Otherwise, just keep it in scope for home viewing.

Pillarboxing, not windowboxing (which is bars on all 4 sides like in the opening sequence of Enchanted).

They do this on the remastered Batman Vs. Superman 4K - pillarboxing to letterboxing and back again.

It certainly will tick off the CIH crowd. I remember the mad scramble to create accounts just to vote in that Sony survey whether to put the subtitles in the picture or the black bar. Someone from another site put out the call and people just started showing up and never to be heard from again. Annoying since they gamed the survey for a select few and not the usual Blu-ray.com membership as a whole.

PeterTHX · 11-08-2021, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Modern sets. Does that mean 4K TVs? Cause they only have a market penetration of 44%. The other 56% are older HDTVs.

My 1080p Sony XBR from 2007 had a 1:1 setting with no overscan.

Geoff D · 11-08-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Modren

I put it to full screen on my 1080p monitor and it filled the screen.

EDIT: Just to make sure I wasn't going crazy, I downloaded the trailer and opened it up in VLC. Sure enough, no black bars during the IMAX sections.

[Show spoiler]

Sorry, my mistake. The video that I'm playing on the forum page as linked to by Mike has a 1.66 frame on my iPad, hence why I'm seeing small borders top and bottom which make it 1.78 (and look just like what 1.90 does in a 1.78 frame). No idea why it's doing that, but 'the more you know' etc etc.

xbs2034 · 11-08-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

FWIW I reckon they're talking about movies, and Disnee have done a few recently with dat expanded 1.90 aspect throughout, the last Pirates movie and the Beauty and the Beast live action remake amongst them, if memory serves?

I believe those were expanded throughout, and Force Awakens also had an IMAX sequence. Lion King had 1.43 sequences, but with the regular movie being 1.85, I don’t expect that to show on D+

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

My 1080p Sony XBR from 2007 had a 1:1 setting with no overscan.

How about the Insigna 50" HDTV Joe Public bought at Best Buy? Or the 50" Onn HDTV Jane Public bought at Walmart?

Modren · 11-08-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

How about the Insigna 50" HDTV Joe Public bought at Best Buy? Or the 50" Onn HDTV Jane Public bought at Walmart?

I have a crappy Vizio from like 8 years ago, and it also has a 1:1 pixel map mode. It's not the default, but it is there. Frankly, I doubt any TV on sale today doesn't have a 1:1 mode.

PeterTHX · 11-08-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

How about the Insigna 50" HDTV Joe Public bought at Best Buy? Or the 50" Onn HDTV Jane Public bought at Walmart?

Who cares?

Pieter V · 11-08-2021, 05:39 PM

No longer the floating aspect ratio like seen on the 3D Blu-rays.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Modren

I have a crappy Vizio from like 8 years ago, and it also has a 1:1 pixel map mode. It's not the default, but it is there. Frankly, I doubt any TV on sale today doesn't have a 1:1 mode.

And Joe and Jane Public know this?

I dare you to walk up to a stranger on the street and ask them if they set the overscan on their TV to zero.

Disney+ has 113 million subscribers. Care to take a guess as to how many are savey when it comes to setting up/calibrating their TV?

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Who cares?

They won't. "Look Peter - no more black bars! Hooray!"

cheez avenger · 11-08-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

And Joe and Jane Public know this?

I dare you to walk up to a stranger on the street and ask them if they set the overscan on their TV to zero.

Disney+ has 113 million subscribers. Care to take a guess as to how many are savey when it comes to setting up/calibrating their TV?

As long as that soap opera effect is turned on, they don't have a clue.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Still, if these do big viewing figures on D+ then you never know re: a UHD disc release. Disnee follow the money, always have.

Right - that's why they haven't released The Mandalorian on physical media. Disnee does follow the money and the path leads to Disney+

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What's baking my noodle is that these will have Dolby Vision as well?!? But what about all dat IMAX special sauce that goes into making the image so much betterer?

That is saved for the IMAX Enhanced 4K UHD Blu-rays - the best that movies can look.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cheez avenger

As long as that soap opera effect is turned on, they don't have a clue.

And make sure you set the Sharpness Control to 100 caused you want the sharpest picture you can get!

Ernest Rister · 11-08-2021, 05:59 PM

I know Brad Bird's Tomorrowland and the live-action Beauty and the Beast had IMAX opened-up sequences.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 06:07 PM

Wonder Woman 1984 had opening and closing IMAX sequences which showed on HBO Max as 1.78 while the rest of the movie was 2.39.

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Pieter V Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:14	No longer the floating aspect ratio like seen on the 3D Blu-rays.

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Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I know Brad Bird's Tomorrowland and the live-action Beauty and the Beast had IMAX opened-up sequences.

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Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	Wonder Woman 1984 had opening and closing IMAX sequences which showed on HBO Max as 1.78 while the rest of the movie was 2.39.

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