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[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

He's a druggie so therefore his music is garbage? Are you f'n serious? Almost every single musician, actor/actress is pretty much a druggie. I can't believe you would put such an asinide comment associated with music. And what pisses me off is because he is a pothead he is a druggie... have you any idea on the medical components to marijuana? Have you any ideas on the number of overdoses from marijuana? Oh 'cause it's 0... that's throughout life. It is decriminalized in many states and some states have even legalized it for medical purposes. So I guess all those cancer patients are druggies huh?

For starters, read the rest of the thread before making ASININE responses.

Secondly, Toefer was being sarcastic.

Thirdly, don't hand us the 'medical properties of marijuana' garbage. They kill pain, they're not chocker block full of vitamins.

Using your logic, we should legalize morphine and sell it over the table. After all, it's a painkiller that's legally used for medical purposes too right?

Drugs ARE bad, I'm not going to argue this... but to label somebody a druggie because they smoke something that comes from the Earth is absolutely RIDICULOUS! Do some fact checking before you make comments like that!

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and gets the munchies like a duck on pot... then it's not a water buffalo.

By your accounts, 80% of the WORLD is a druggie... but alcoholics that kill people drunk driving are just... what, cool guys?

I'm not sure if you're insinuating that 80% of the world smokes pot... if you were to say that then you'd be wrong... perhaps 80% of the folks you know need Doritos in the middle of the night, but the rest of the world it's a small percentage that smoke pot.

Oh and I don't even like Crosby Stills and Nash all that much anyways!

You should check them out. I've heard that while you're high they're actually quite good.

Logan

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

You should check them out. I've heard that while you're high they're actually quite good.

Logan

HIM....you should check HIM out. Crosby Stills Nash Young is a nice guy.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

HIM....you should check HIM out. Crosby Stills Nash Young is a nice guy.

He was a nice guy, until his Pot-rage took over his life...

Logan

[ht_skinny]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

For starters, read the rest of the thread before making ASININE responses.

Secondly, Toefer was being sarcastic.

For this I apologize... I did not read the entire post... I just skimmed it and came across that comment.

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Thirdly, don't hand us the 'medical properties of marijuana' garbage. They kill pain, they're not chocker block full of vitamins.

Using your logic, we should legalize morphine and sell it over the table. After all, it's a painkiller that's legally used for medical purposes too right?

What? Don't hand us the medical properties of marijuana garbage? How is it garbage that is has been proven to help with people's pains? I mean when you are in CHEMO? and your body is ravaged with poisons and all you want to do is throw up and die, weed calms the sytem and takes that pain away.

Can you grab some morphine from the ground and just use it? No it has to be chemically made. Morphine IS used in hospitals correct, so therefore I believe it is LEGAL. But to give it out over the counter is just a dumb comment... you can't even buy cough medicine over the counter anymore, so to say that morphine would be over the counter is absurd.

Using my logic... anything you do to yourself should be legal... in this country, the land of the free, it seems that there are a lot of laws against what I do to MY body. Which IMO, is wrong.

Originally Posted by jadedeath

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and gets the munchies like a duck on pot... then it's not a water buffalo.

What? So you've seen a duck on weed? WOW! Something I never seen. So it looks like a substance that helps people, relaxes people, and does not cause deaths, it must be WEED! I really just don't get your analogy.

Originally Posted by jadedeath

I'm not sure if you're insinuating that 80% of the world smokes pot... if you were to say that then you'd be wrong... perhaps 80% of the folks you know need Doritos in the middle of the night, but the rest of the world it's a small percentage that smoke pot.

That's funny because everywhere I read, it says about 80% of the world has or is smoking pot. But you don't care about facts do you? You just want to sit there and degrade people that smoke weed because they get the munchies? WOW! That is something that is going to put our country in peril.... a stoned guy eating Doritos. Is it that big of a deal that someone gets hungry after altering their mind?




And to the other person... heroin is from the Earth, but it must be processed and chemically altered to become the drug you know as Heroin. Same with cocaine!

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

What? Don't hand us the medical properties of marijuana garbage? How is it garbage that is has been proven to help with people's pains? I mean when you are in CHEMO? and your body is ravaged with poisons and all you want to do is throw up and die, weed calms the sytem and takes that pain away.

Keep reading...

By that logic we should legalize Morphine too. That helps with people's pain and makes them mellow.

Can you grab some morphine from the ground and just use it? No it has to be chemically made. Morphine IS used in hospitals correct, so therefore I believe it is LEGAL. But to give it out over the counter is just a dumb comment... you can't even buy cough medicine over the counter anymore, so to say that morphine would be over the counter is absurd.

Actually depending on where you live you can buy cough medicine over the counter.

The point is, pot and morphine are both used by the medical types to ease people's pain, so why can't you use the same excuses for morphine that people use for pot all the time? It eases people's suffering so why can't we completely legalize it so you can head over to your friend Chet's place and get yourself some sweet sweet morphine...?

Using my logic... anything you do to yourself should be legal... in this country, the land of the free, it seems that there are a lot of laws against what I do to MY body. Which IMO, is wrong.

Here we go.

It's the classic argument from people who don't have a clue what they're talking about.

There's also laws against attempted suicide, you have a problem with those too?

What? So you've seen a duck on weed? WOW! Something I never seen. So it looks like a substance that helps people, relaxes people, and does not cause deaths, it must be WEED! I really just don't get your analogy.

I'm not surprised.

That's funny because everywhere I read, it says about 80% of the world has or is smoking pot.

Sorry, you'll have to quote that article, and Weed Subscriber Conspiracy Theory Monthly unfortunately doesn't count.

But you don't care about facts do you?

Facts I care about, when you use them, be sure and let me know.

You just want to sit there and degrade people that smoke weed because they get the munchies? WOW! That is something that is going to put our country in peril.... a stoned guy eating Doritos. Is it that big of a deal that someone gets hungry after altering their mind?

Have some Doritos, you're getting a little agitated.

And to the other person... heroin is from the Earth, but it must be processed and chemically altered to become the drug you know as Heroin. Same with cocaine!

They're both restricted substances, it's the same concept.

Logan

[ht_skinny]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Keep reading...

By that logic we should legalize Morphine too. That helps with people's pain and makes them mellow.

MORPHINE IS LEGAL! They use it at hospitals worldwide. They also use syringes and IV drips in hospitals, those are not available over the counter. What is your trip with morphine? Okay... I say legalize morphine, happy?

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Actually depending on where you live you can buy cough medicine over the counter.

The point is, pot and morphine are both used by the medical types to ease people's pain, so why can't you use the same excuses for morphine that people use for pot all the time? It eases people's suffering so why can't we completely legalize it so you can head over to your friend Chet's place and get yourself some sweet sweet morphine...?

I was never arguing the point that morphine and pot are the same. I do not know where this came from.

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Here we go.

It's the classic argument from people who don't have a clue what they're talking about.

There's also laws against attempted suicide, you have a problem with those too?

How do I not know what I am talking about? I am in control of my body, therefore I believe I should be able to do whatever I want with it? Whether that be good or bad in your eyes. If no one is hurting anybody else why does the goverment care about what I put into my body?

Yes I do... if your life is so horrible that YOU want to commit suicide, why the hell should the goverment be involved in that? It is your body that you take care of/not take care of, so why is it the goverment's job to determine what is illegal for my body? I mean McDonald's is bad for my body as well but that is not illegal. You really think someone should be put in jail because they attempted to commit suicide?

That sounds good, so rather than let the poor person who can't stand life anymore kill themselves, we should put them in jail and have taxpayers pay for them to live miserably in a cell. That makes sense.

Originally Posted by jadedeath

I'm not surprised.



Sorry, you'll have to quote that article, and Weed Subscriber Conspiracy Theory Monthly unfortunately doesn't count.

That's a new one... maybe you were looking for "High Times" or "Cannabis Culture" but hey, whatever name you wanna use is cool. As far as facts, okay, then if I can't use my conspiracy theory magazine, then you can't use goverment blastphemy. Because o yeah, me buying a bag of weed from someone that either grew it themselves or got it from Canada, is DEFINATELY going to help Terrorists buy supplies. Gimme a break. I will say that both sides do skew their numbers... but as someone who has smoked for about 10 years now, I can tell you, I know a LOT of people that smoke... not just 20 year olds with "their face stuck in a bag of Doritos." But 40 year old real estate agents, 65 year old grandmothers, 37 year old housewives. A lot of upstanding citizens.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

MORPHINE IS LEGAL! They use it at hospitals worldwide. They also use syringes and IV drips in hospitals, those are not available over the counter. What is your trip with morphine? Okay... I say legalize morphine, happy?

Again, you go WAY out of your way to miss the point.

I mean legalize it by way of selling it over the counter to anyone who wants it.

I was never arguing the point that morphine and pot are the same. I do not know where this came from.

Read the thread.

How do I not know what I am talking about? I am in control of my body, therefore I believe I should be able to do whatever I want with it? Whether that be good or bad in your eyes. If no one is hurting anybody else why does the goverment care about what I put into my body?

I don't care what you put in your body, the facts are you should really come up with a good reason for it other than 'just cuz I wants to'

Yes I do... if your life is so horrible that YOU want to commit suicide, why the hell should the goverment be involved in that? It is your body that you take care of/not take care of, so why is it the goverment's job to determine what is illegal for my body? I mean McDonald's is bad for my body as well but that is not illegal. You really think someone should be put in jail because they attempted to commit suicide?

I think someone should be restrained from hurting themselves or other people.

That sounds good, so rather than let the poor person who can't stand life anymore kill themselves, we should put them in jail and have taxpayers pay for them to live miserably in a cell. That makes sense.

Sometimes that miserable person is suffering from a disease and need treatment, so you're saying instead of treating someone and helping them become a productive member of society we should just put a bullet in their head and let them die?

Does pot take away your compassion? I'm not sure.

That's a new one... maybe you were looking for "High Times" or "Cannabis Culture" but hey, whatever name you wanna use is cool. As far as facts, okay, then if I can't use my conspiracy theory magazine, then you can't use goverment blastphemy. Because o yeah, me buying a bag of weed from someone that either grew it themselves or got it from Canada, is DEFINATELY going to help Terrorists buy supplies. Gimme a break. I will say that both sides do skew their numbers... but as someone who has smoked for about 10 years now, I can tell you, I know a LOT of people that smoke... not just 20 year olds with "their face stuck in a bag of Doritos." But 40 year old real estate agents, 65 year old grandmothers, 37 year old housewives. A lot of upstanding citizens.

I'm still waiting for that article, or anything other than anecdotal evidence that 80% of people smoke pot.

And waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting........

Logan

[ht_skinny]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Again, you go WAY out of your way to miss the point.

I mean legalize it by way of selling it over the counter to anyone who wants it.



Read the thread.



I don't care what you put in your body, the facts are you should really come up with a good reason for it other than 'just cuz I wants to'



I think someone should be restrained from hurting themselves or other people.



Sometimes that miserable person is suffering from a disease and need treatment, so you're saying instead of treating someone and helping them become a productive member of society we should just put a bullet in their head and let them die?

Does pot take away your compassion? I'm not sure.



I'm still waiting for that article, or anything other than anecdotal evidence that 80% of people smoke pot.

And waiting...

and waiting...

and waiting........

Logan

I'm done with this... I NEVER SPOKE ABOUT MORPHINE... you did!

And you will keep continuing to wait, cuz there are no polls where the entire world is asked if they smoke weed. Maybe I misspoke on that one, but for you to be that abnoxious about it. WOW! I guess you could use a blast of the green.

But honestly you should try some weed and then tell me how you feel about this conversation, because at this point talking to you about marijuana is like talking to an Ethiopean Carpenter about Japan's HVAC problems.

[ht_skinny]

I was wrong... 60 - 75 % of the world smoke weed.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_p...orld_smoke_pot
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_p...moke_marijuana
http://www.blurtit.com/q145758.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8134130AA4kQuV

You want me to keep going?

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

I'm done with this... I NEVER SPOKE ABOUT MORPHINE... you did!

And you will keep continuing to wait, cuz there are no polls where the entire world is asked if they smoke weed. Maybe I misspoke on that one, but for you to be that abnoxious about it. WOW! I guess you could use a blast of the green.

And waiting...

But honestly you should try some weed and then tell me how you feel about this conversation, because at this point talking to you about marijuana is like talking to an Ethiopean Carpenter about Japan's HVAC problems.

No thanks.

Some things you don't have to experience to know that it's a dumb@$$ thing to do.

Using that logic, you could say that since I've never shot myself in the foot with a nail gun I can't tell someone that they're an idiot for having done so.

Logan

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

For this I apologize... I did not read the entire post... I just skimmed it and came across that comment.



What? Don't hand us the medical properties of marijuana garbage? How is it garbage that is has been proven to help with people's pains? I mean when you are in CHEMO? and your body is ravaged with poisons and all you want to do is throw up and die, weed calms the sytem and takes that pain away.

Can you grab some morphine from the ground and just use it? No it has to be chemically made. Morphine IS used in hospitals correct, so therefore I believe it is LEGAL. But to give it out over the counter is just a dumb comment... you can't even buy cough medicine over the counter anymore, so to say that morphine would be over the counter is absurd.

Using my logic... anything you do to yourself should be legal... in this country, the land of the free, it seems that there are a lot of laws against what I do to MY body. Which IMO, is wrong.



What? So you've seen a duck on weed? WOW! Something I never seen. So it looks like a substance that helps people, relaxes people, and does not cause deaths, it must be WEED! I really just don't get your analogy.




That's funny because everywhere I read, it says about 80% of the world has or is smoking pot. But you don't care about facts do you? You just want to sit there and degrade people that smoke weed because they get the munchies? WOW! That is something that is going to put our country in peril.... a stoned guy eating Doritos. Is it that big of a deal that someone gets hungry after altering their mind?




And to the other person... heroin is from the Earth, but it must be processed and chemically altered to become the drug you know as Heroin. Same with cocaine!

I just cant understand a persons need to escape their reality.

Fix it, or deal with it.

[Teabaggins]

it's not just used as an escape, it enhances experiences as well.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

it's not just used as an escape, it enhances experiences as well.

It dulls, not enhances. I dont know how long you have been smoking, but a few years after you quit, you will see what I mean. I've been on both sides of the fence, and this side is clearly more real and better. Clarity allows you to enjoy things to their fullest. I am not criticizing you or your choices, and I believe that one should be allowed to do what one wants to his own body. Freedom of choice all the way. Do what you enjoy. In hindsight, I strongly wish I had never touched the sh!t.

[Teabaggins]

some of it dulls and some enhances. depends on what strain you smoke
because you regret your choices doesn't mean it's bad for everyone

[GoYanks]

What the hell does anyone of that crap have to do with Conan O'Brien?

I used to chief (5 years). I stopped. It was great while it lasted. I could rip a bong like no other. Now, I'm in grad school doing what I love.

As far as the topic of this thread goes, I didn't get to see the show. Completly blanked on it. How was it?

[ht_skinny]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

some of it dulls and some enhances. depends on what strain you smoke
because you regret your choices doesn't mean it's bad for everyone

That's why I love Sativas for the daytime and Indicas for night...

Sativas is more of a body high causing me to want to do physical things... like cleaning, walking, sports.

Indicas are more of a head high, great for relaxing at the end of the day to melt in your couch and watch some BLU's.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Teabaggins

some of it dulls and some enhances. depends on what strain you smoke
because you regret your choices doesn't mean it's bad for everyone

Like I said, I'm all for freedom of choice. You are happy with yours, and I am happy with mine.

[ht_skinny]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I just cant understand a persons need to escape their reality.

Fix it, or deal with it.

Fix it sounds good, but how do you really do that? Go to a shrink, get some pills, and call it a day? Sometimes there is no way to FIX things... for an example... if you have a wonderful girlfriend that you are in love with and she means THE WORLD to you, and the two of you are driving down a road when someone swirves and smashes head on with you in a car. Your girlfriend gets tossed from the windshield and dies. Now how would you fix this? Go after the guy who did it? That will get you in jail. Personally if that happened to me, I would think I should have the RIGHT to choose whether or not I would like to die as well, and maybe join my girlfriend in the after life.

And dealing with these problems is part of the reason why we have so many people with such pent up anger inside of them that when someday someone says something to put them over the edge, they snap and go on a murderous rampage or something like that. Not always but every cerial killer I have read about has had some HUGE issues that they just tried to DEAL with.

To each their own I guess, these are just my views!

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by ht_skinny

Fix it sounds good, but how do you really do that? Go to a shrink, get some pills, and call it a day? Sometimes there is no way to FIX things... for an example... if you have a wonderful girlfriend that you are in love with and she means THE WORLD to you, and the two of you are driving down a road when someone swirves and smashes head on with you in a car. Your girlfriend gets tossed from the windshield and dies. Now how would you fix this? Go after the guy who did it? That will get you in jail. Personally if that happened to me, I would think I should have the RIGHT to choose whether or not I would like to die as well, and maybe join my girlfriend in the after life.

And dealing with these problems is part of the reason why we have so many people with such pent up anger inside of them that when someday someone says something to put them over the edge, they snap and go on a murderous rampage or something like that. Not always but every cerial killer I have read about has had some HUGE issues that they just tried to DEAL with.

To each their own I guess, these are just my views!

Funny you should mention that. I had a very similar (worse) experience with the (16 year long) love of my life wife. And no, that cant be fixed. It must be dealt with.

It was a brutal time in my life...but I made it. I was distraught for months, and affected for years, but I knew that giving up on myself would be a waste of a SECOND life. I pushed on everyday, sometimes sleeping only an hour or two per day. There is no magic pill for dealing with grief. You just have to go through it. Some times it takes days, weeks or even years. Numbing the pain is not the answer. You have to feel it in order to come out the other side.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Funny you should mention that. I had a very similar (worse) experience with the (16 year long) love of my life wife. And no, that cant be fixed. It must be dealt with.

It was a brutal time in my life...but I made it. I was distraught for months, and affected for years, but I knew that giving up on myself would be a waste of a SECOND life. I pushed on everyday, sometimes sleeping only an hour or two per day. There is no magic pill for dealing with grief. You just have to go through it. Some times it takes days, weeks or even years. Numbing the pain is not the answer. You have to feel it in order to come out the other side.

very very well said squid


sorry to hear that happened to you though