Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by bladerunner6

I feel there is a fascinating story there.

Absolutely.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by bladerunner6

That is a big question I want answered. Why did the Engineers create such a horrific weapon? What was the threat that made them create something so incredibly and viciously destructive?

I feel there is a fascinating story there.

Exactly. Why do what they did? Whos the enemy? Why make an Alien thing like that to combat said enemy? See, this is where some narrative & backstory would have been amazing. Maybe standard weapons wouldnt have worked? Maybe they tried that already? Ridley/Lindeloff = you guys got anything on this extremely important stuff?

This whats so frustrating about the movie. There are possibilities in there that never go anywhere.

[levcore]

Originally Posted by bladerunner6

That is a big question I want answered. Why did the Engineers create such a horrific weapon? What was the threat that made them create something so incredibly and viciously destructive?

I feel there is a fascinating story there.

They've had two opportunities to address these questions and didn't each time, big missed opportunity.

[bobbyh64]

No one ever talks about the xenomorph that popped out of the space jockey’s chest in Alien. I’m guessing it went around looking for food and died of starvation. How sad…

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

No one ever talks about the xenomorph that popped out of the space jockey’s chest in Alien. I’m guessing it went around looking for food and died of starvation. How sad…

Spaceballs Dancing Alien - YouTube

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

No one ever talks about the xenomorph that popped out of the space jockey’s chest in Alien. I’m guessing it went around looking for food and died of starvation. How sad…

I wonder if that was the same fate that the things created by David dropping the black liquid on the engineer planet suffered. It seemed weird to me that the only neomorphs we see in Covenant were the ones created due to the crew themselves. Maybe they wiped out all the edible life-forms on the planet and starved or something.

[FiendishlyInventive]

From everything we know the Pathogen's purpose's to cleanse a planet of life entirely, the first stage being the highest dosage upon deployment causing instantaneous death, the second stage being it contaminates the air and water causing various instances of Trilobites and Deacons to appear because of the remaining living things procreating, the third stage being the remaining lifeforms turning into Abominations, the final stage of the process being Pods and Motes within being created from microbes in the atmosphere laying dormant for anything to contaminate to create a Neomorph. Granted though, depending upon the circumstances stages II and III, and the final stage perhaps often overlap with each other, but in all likelihood it happens in such an order. It is ultimately unknown, but I believe the Pods and Motes then expire after a length of time, resulting in the planet being empty, such as we see in the beginning of Prometheus' prologue, ready for it to start again.

We know the Pathogen's not a creator of sustaining life, or a habitat changer, considering the outbreak on LV-223 over 2000 years ago by the time of Prometheus, as all the Engineers perished apart from a single one sealed away and evidently a Neomorph or Deacon's scream's heard when the hologram system first activates in the tunnel system.

"The Deacon" (In essence a Neomorph itself in all but the origin) only exists because by David's own admission the Pathogen reacts to human sexual organs in an alternate way, hence he uses Doctor Elizabeth Shaw's to fashion the Alien, and bring an equally worthy artificial intelligence in his eyes into existence.

Because in terms of function it's all in essence identical:
A Pathogen infected zygote/Pod/Egg
Trilobite/Mote/Facehugger
Deacon/Neomorph/Alien

[Phillip c. Niethe]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

No one ever talks about the xenomorph that popped out of the space jockey’s chest in Alien. I’m guessing it went around looking for food and died of starvation. How sad…

Someone should turn that into a really emotional short film lol.

[Zivouhr]

Aliens eat people, right? I know the embryo infant chest burster feeds off the internal blood and body of the host before bursting out like a special wasp larvae from a caterpillar, but it's rare in an Alien film if we see them actually devouring a person.

How they gain energy to function and survive being the main question.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Aliens eat people, right?

I like to think that they don't.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I like to think that they don't.

I can imagine they eat other living things, or gain energy to survive sometimes through cannibalism possibly.

Or maybe they're really like Vampires, since they have that inner jaw, which would get in the way of eating probably, so they lock the inner jaw onto the victim and absorb all their blood. That makes sense.

They're not machines so they have to consume something for energy and nutrition.

How long can an Alien Xenomorph live for?
Having a queen, are they like wasps or hornets?

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

...

Some of it goes in her mouth, but it doesn't look enough like sodomy.

I HATE when it doesn't look enough like sodomy...

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

I can imagine they eat other living things, or gain energy to survive sometimes through cannibalism possibly.

The 1979 alien grows to full size without eating anybody. Shaw's "baby" grows to a massive size while locked in a room.

How long can an Alien Xenomorph live for?

Unknown.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The 1979 alien grows to full size without eating anybody. Shaw's "baby" grows to a massive size while locked in a room.



Unknown.

That's true, thanks. So they're able to grow rapidly with just a minimal amount of food source. Maybe they can make the food cells triple themselves, and consume that triple amount in their reserve stomach.

Probably questions I have that don't need answers, since these are just movie monsters.

If there is a queen, I imagine she lives the longest, being the largest and producing many eggs.

If Liz Shaw didn't cut out that Xenobaby, it probably would've forced its way out through her stomach, which is much easier to exit than someone's chest or back. No bones in the stomach.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

If Liz Shaw didn't cut out that Xenobaby, it probably would've forced its way out through her stomach, which is much easier to exit than someone's chest or back. No bones in the stomach.

Considering her inability to bear children was a plot point, she was inseminated by her infected husband, and the critter was gestating in her uterus, if the filmmakers followed the theme through, it would have come out the old-fashioned way, if you know what I mean.

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Considering her inability to bear children was a plot point, she was inseminated by her infected husband, and the critter was gestating in her uterus, if the filmmakers followed the theme through, it would have come out the old-fashioned way, if you know what I mean.

I hear what you're saying. That would've been painful for her I bet but much easier than if it ripped through her stomach. Then if her motherly instincts kicked in for some odd reason, she could raise it as her own or have that linked connection that Ripley has with Aliens in Alien 3. Then when the Engineer walked in, she'd tell it to fetch.

[EvaDK]

Originally Posted by bladerunner6

That is a big question I want answered. Why did the Engineers create such a horrific weapon? What was the threat that made them create something so incredibly and viciously destructive?

I feel there is a fascinating story there.

I'd like to think they encountered an authentic alien species and never discovered its true dark origin. Hence being bio-mechanical engineers, they recreated them instead and among other things, designed a variant as an insidious biological weapon.

That could explain why there's a mural of the creature in the room with all the black goo containers, almost like a mural of worship. They admired it.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by EvaDK

I'd like to think they encountered an authentic alien species and never discovered its true dark origin. Hence being bio-mechanical engineers, they recreated them instead and among other things, designed a variant as an insidious biological weapon.

That could explain why there's a mural of the creature in the room with all the black goo containers, almost like a mural of worship. They admired it.

Admired it….like Ash?

Still love to get way more about this. As we’ve discussed, a weapon like that seems extreme and wouldn’t be anyones first choice due to the unreliability and danger it presents to those that attempt to manage it. If the goal is to destroy and then create…. Some good bombs handle the destroy part quite efficiently and with little or no potential harm to the bomb droppers. You get the idea.

[DR Herbert West]

Maybe the alien is the end goal.

[Zivouhr]

If you watch Aliens, notice how the opening credits and blocks of credits last for not more than 3 seconds from fade in to fade out for each section of opening credits?

So you'll see about 3 lines to read through, and they give you literally no more than 3 seconds before it's gone after being visible in that time too. They clearly wanted to rush through the credits but I wish they didn't. I'd have to pause the movie just to read all of the credits in the start.

Executive Producer
Some Name

Director of Photography
Some Name

Editor
Some Name

They show all of that, and you have to read it all in 3 seconds or less flat. I am surprised I never noticed that before. So about 1 second to fade in/out, and the other 2 seconds to read it all before it disappears.