Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Cobra Kai’ Star Jacob Bertrand Was Vehemently Against Hawk’s Turn to the Good Side - Hollywood Reporter 1/7


Sounds like the show still has some life on Netflix.

Yes I'm a big Cobra Kai fan, just finished Season 4 and waiting for Season 5. I did go back and watch all the Karate Kid Movies! Fun Series with a good story line.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Cobra Kai’ Star Jacob Bertrand Was Vehemently Against Hawk’s Turn to the Good Side - Hollywood Reporter 1/7

Of interest is this last comment.



Sounds like the show still has some life on Netflix.

Originally Posted by alchav21

Yes I'm a big Cobra Kai fan, just finished Season 4 and waiting for Season 5. I did go back and watch all the Karate Kid Movies! Fun Series with a good story line.

Surprisingly fun, agreed. Quite addictive!

[lgans316]

To the projector people out here, keep a tab on Youthman's YouTube channel. He will stream projector shootout which will include most top of the line projectors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5oN...ature=youtu.be

[bhampton]

Projectors are where the fun is.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Nice choice on screens. How big could you go?

It will be a tight fit but I can do the 56" X 132" (143.4" diag.) 2.35 screen. Drawings shown have several layers visible that would not normally be. Color and B&W version.

[Show spoiler]

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Projectors are where the fun is.

I had the Epson 6050UB. Great projector. Served well for 3D and can get plenty bright. Sadly had to sell after my recent home move. I am happy with my 77A80J and ZD9 TVs. The ZD9 can do 3D but not properly.

Shame that 3D is virtually dead. It had plenty of scope for expansion and enhancements which never materialised and got ditched by the people who produced them.

Not many across the pond can afford bigger homes. So projector and bigger audio systems are like a pipe dream which means we got to settle for bigger sized TVs and smaller speakers / soundbars which nowadays are close to medium end separates unless you are one of those guys appearing in Youthman's videos (like the guy with.4 18 inch subs on in the ceiling.). Absolutely crazy but at least I am happy some are able to pursue their dreams and not kept dreaming like me.

[bhampton]

I ordered the 3D emitter for my RS3100 (NZ8) and both my arrive next week.

I'm excited again.... hope to be watching just about all my stuff over again soon.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Another point is that subscription streaming services may pull the plug altogether on third party EST. Films might end up exclusively on streaming services as a PVOD then as a regular fixture. In that case, digital collections would go up in smoke.

let's see if we can see a bit more eye to eye

if a studio rents me a copy of a film it makes some money (which pays after the fact for making the film) if it sells me a copy (be it digital or physical) it makes a lot more money and if I bring my family to see it in theatres it makes even a lot more money.

Streaming can't pull the plug on EST and if the person is willing to pay more for it why would studios pull the plug on EST.

The problem is not there the problem is on the other side.

when it comes to physical copies if the studio believes they can sell 10M copies they will replicate 10M copies and will pay for 10M copies on the other hand if the studio thinks they can only sell 10k copies they will pay for 10k copies the only way this can backfire is if the studio thinks they can sell 10M copies and they only sell 10k copies.


cinema now, target ticket, did not close down and walmart sold Vudu because of external forces (studios or subscription streaming) but because they had enough of hemorrhaging money

On the other hand with digital the computers, the storage, the electricity.... are all the same if they sell 10M copies or 10k copies of the film and unlike physical media where it is a one time thing (unless you replicate more copies) that cost is recurring (actually growing because salaries, electricity rate.... go up over time) every month.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I guess Music should give us the heads up. Though it's not entirely similar.

that is the problem Apple was on the verge of bancrupcy when they bought a small unheard of company and rebranded it as itunes, add to it that it was a propriatary format playable on ipods and it made it the juggernaut it is today.


Many assume lightning can strike twice and they want to be the one.

But like you said they are not entirely similar


1) itunes gave a way for people to be able to buy 1 song instead of an album and people could have hundreds of 1$ songs on something that fits in the pocket instead of needing to make mix cds and have a multi disk holder with them

2) in one case you have very small files in the other they are very large that means there is a huge difference in infrastructure in every way possible and so in the cost of it

3) they had a monopoly so they were able to squeeze record labes and keep more of that 1$

4) it was a different time, there was no subscription streaming when it was a young format. like you said to many

and there's kind of no point as I have access already

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by lgans316

To the projector people out here, keep a tab on Youthman's YouTube channel. He will stream projector shootout which will include most top of the line projectors.

I thought everyone is a projector person. The difference is some have one and others want one

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

It will be a tight fit but I can do the 56" X 132" (143.4" diag.) 2.35 screen. Drawings shown have several layers visible that would not normally be. Color and B&W version.

[Show spoiler]

Love the detail Wendell. I am assuming you measured for this, but I couldn't tell if the frame of the screen would interfere from an off axis dispersion sort of way from your left and right speakers.

So my guess is you are leaning towards the bigger screen and the NZ8 / RS3100?

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I thought everyone is a projector person. The difference is some have one and others want one

I love projectors but I bet some people have no interest in them at all.

However, the fun factor of the new Samsung Freestyle will create a new wave of projector lovers.

https://youtu.be/6lnY8oqVh3A

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Love the detail Wendell. I am assuming you measured for this, but I couldn't tell if the frame of the screen would interfere from an off axis dispersion sort of way from your left and right speakers.

So my guess is you are leaning towards the bigger screen and the NZ8 / RS3100?

Thanks.

The L/R speakers are toed toward the MLP and the front of the speakers are in front of the screen frame. A compromised arc, as in trying to achieve = distance between L/C/R and MLP. Have yet to do my overhead view.

Measurements = many . Also use laser levels, laser pointers and non stretch string.

Waiting to see a NZ8 vs NZ9 comparison.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I love projectors but I bet some people have no interest in them at all.

My guess, most people can not accommodate a front projector and/or the expense of a projector (hardware, light control, install, etc.).

Observation: at work we used to invite people for screening some of our content. Normally done in the auditorium which had a large front projection screen and professional grade direct view monitors (30"). Virtually everyone would be looking at the the projection screen. Size does matter .

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I thought everyone is a projector person. The difference is some have one and others want one

Maybe in the US but not so much in the UK where you don't have big houses and basement unless you earn millions or inherited it. Most houses in the UK (In densely populated areas) are semi detached which means you share one side of the walls with the neighbours and you have to be mindful about volume levels as most houses are poorly insulated and not sound proofed.

I am having a major problem with insulation in my ground floor flat as my ceiling is acting like an echo chamber which is resonating bass badly in the flat upstairs. I am looking at spending £4000 to insulate the ceiling thermally and to trap low frequency sounds from tarvelling upstairs. Once this is done, I can look at cranking up the master volume. Sometimes you have the money but don't have the space and sometimes it's the other way around.

[slimjean]

Originally Posted by lgans316

I had the Epson 6050UB. Great projector. Served well for 3D and can get plenty bright. Sadly had to sell after my recent home move. I am happy with my 77A80J and ZD9 TVs. The ZD9 can do 3D but not properly.

The Z9D 65 inch is horrible 3D. The good thing is that cheap Vizios put out much better 3D and being plain ol HD, they still do a great job while not cutting quality that bad.

I mounted my tv above the other like you do with the fireplace. It works great to just pull it down for the occasional 3D experience and having an HDMI switch box.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Maybe in the US but not so much in the UK where you don't have big houses and basement unless you earn millions or inherited it. Most houses in the UK (In densely populated areas) are semi detached which means you share one side of the walls with the neighbours and you have to be mindful about volume levels as most houses are poorly insulated and not sound proofed.

I am having a major problem with insulation in my ground floor flat as my ceiling is acting like an echo chamber which is resonating bass badly in the flat upstairs. I am looking at spending £4000 to insulate the ceiling thermally and to trap low frequency sounds from tarvelling upstairs. Once this is done, I can look at cranking up the master volume. Sometimes you have the money but don't have the space and sometimes it's the other way around.

You don’t need to earn millions to own a big house. In the North East, 250,000-400,000 can buy you a pretty big home. Maybe London it’s way more expensive but certainly not true in the North.

[sapiendut]

In my area a 1700 sq ft town home is $1.1 mil

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

In my area a 1700 sq ft town home is $1.1 mil

My area that is cheap, take a look at this recent example, also it’s in $US.

https://www.siliconvalley.com/2021/1...0-over-asking/

And yet this area is still mostly suburban. Now as far as projectors, most wouldn’t because they tend to make all room multifunctional with smaller sq ft homes.

[PenguinInfinity]

I have absolutely no interest in a projector. My close-up vision is superior to my distance vision so I prefer using a small screen at a close distance.

After testing various sizes and positions I've found that my ideal set-up is a 28 inch screen at a distance of 23 inches from my eyes.