Superman: The Movie 4K UHD (1978)

[JonZ]

I really wish Donner had gotten rid of the "Can you read my mind" voice over for his Dir Cut.

Can remember the day I saw this in theaters. One of my fav films that deserves a proper 4k release.

[Christian Muth]

Originally Posted by JonZ

I really wish Donner had gotten rid of the "Can you read my mind" voice over for his Dir Cut...

No.

Chris

[anephric]

Yeah, that sequence is so totally 70s, I suppose it's Marmite but I absolutely love it. My missus gives me funny looks when I start reciting the lines along with Lois whenever we watch it.

It helps that John Williams' cue accompanying it is so sumptuously, utterly beautiful.

[spaceball-one]

Does anyone else sing it along with the theme while watching?

"Can you read my miiiinnnnndddd...., do-you-know what-it-is yooooouuu do-to-meeeeeee?"

[anephric]

Voiceover aside, it also completely sells Lois and Kal's kismet far better than any of the following iterations. Call me an old fool (YOU'RE AN OLD ROMANTIC FOOL) but that sequence totally sells them falling (no pun intended) for each other. Is there anything like that in Superman Returns or Snyder's films? NO THERE IS NOT. Not unless you're a fan of stalking.

[suspiciouscoffee]

There’s a hint of an idea in Snyder’s of Lois the journalist falling in love with Superman the story before she meets him which could have been great if she was the POV character and the movie was told in order of events as she learned them, but instead it’s just messy and scattered.

Anyway I love the voiceover too. It’s a comic book, back when those still had thought balloons rather than caption boxes detached from the narrative present.

[JonZ]

The visuals and music would sell the scene, as Donner originally intended.

The voice over is unnecessary, odd and probably because Donner didn't want to do it... badly done.

Blade Runner, the final scene in Coppolas Dracula, Can you read my mind.... examples of how the studios seem to think we're stupid and can't understand what's happening without being explicitly told so.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by JonZ

Blade Runner, the final scene in Coppolas Dracula, Can you read my mind.... examples of how the studios seem to think we're stupid and can't understand what's happening without being explicitly told so.

What was studio-mandated about the final scene of Bram Stoker's Dracula? I hadn't heard that story.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by spaceball-one

Does anyone else sing it along with the theme while watching?

"Can you read my miiiinnnnndddd...., do-you-know what-it-is yooooouuu do-to-meeeeeee?"

[Christian Muth]

Originally Posted by JonZ

The visuals and music would sell the scene, as Donner originally intended.

The voice over is unnecessary, odd and probably because Donner didn't want to do it... badly done...

No.

Chris

[Christian Muth]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

What was studio-mandated about the final scene of Bram Stoker's Dracula? I hadn't heard that story.

Nothing. In fact, Coppola reshot the end of it just a few weeks before release to make it MORE graphic (

[Show spoiler]the decapitation was added in the reshoot

), apparently at the suggestion of Steven Spielberg when Coppola screened him the almost-finished film deep into post-production.

Chris

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

The only extras I want:

TV cut of Part II
Two hour cut of Part IV

I’m not sure a two hour cut of part 4 would help though? Don’t know!?
I suppose it would be worth a look although some of those deleted scenes that I watched years ago did look ropey.

I’m up for the tv cut of part 2. I had it once. Picture quality was very poor though.

[Martoto]

The voice over gives the audience an insight into a different side of Lois from the one she usually presents. Does Lois the reporter seem like the romantic poet type? Sure she looks fairly derpy when Supe is around but she was still cynical about most of his responses in their interview.

"Can you read my mind?" is a great question too. Is there nothing this man can't do? Am I so smitten and is he so awesome that the tough persona I show to the world useless in his presence? Can this guy see who I really am inside in spite of my efforts to hide it?

Of course it's neatly balanced with Kal-El's desire to share his secret with her. It would be so much easier if she could just read his mind.

[rockin]

I'll take Superman the movie and all its flaws over some of rubbish that is made today.

[JonZ]

Originally Posted by Christian Muth

Nothing. In fact, Coppola reshot the end of it just a few weeks before release to make it MORE graphic (

[Show spoiler]the decapitation was added in the reshoot

), apparently at the suggestion of Steven Spielberg when Coppola screened him the almost-finished film deep into post-production.

Chris

Correct. There wasn't anything "studio mandated".Saying " the studios" was a lousy choice of words on my part.
My point was, they were examples of being spoonfed what happening on screen without giving rhe audience some credit, and allowing them to figure it out for themselves.

[david_blu]

Originally Posted by Bolty

The actor Pepper Martin who played the bully in Superman 2 just passed away. In his commentary Donner mentioned him fondly.
What's kind of interesting is that everybody who played a "good" character in the first two movies for the most part has passed away.
Christopher Reeves Margot Kidder Jackie Cooper all the kryptonians Glenn Ford Phyllis Thaxter Marlon Brando Susannah York EG Marshall. The only exception is Marc McClure.
But up until recently all the actors who played the villains were alive. The three Kryptonian villains and Luthor Otis and Miss Tessmacher. But sadly in the last year we lost Ned Beatty and now Pepper Martin.

It's sad that any of the fans of this film like I have seen these actors pass, such great childhood memories of this film. I love now as much as I did then.

Character, good or bad just remember when it came to the film "We're all part of the same team Goodnight"

[CompleteCount]

I just finally got around to watching the 4K edition of Supes (where the hell did the last 18 months go?) and thoroughly enjoyed it. When it's possibly the very first film you saw at the cinema when it came out, the movie means a lot to you - and it certainly does.

I know the film intimately (I was one of the merry band involved with getting the RIC version of II out there) and even I noticed a couple of honking-great optical-related problems I hadn't seen before - be that imperfectly transferring it to 4K or that the format exposes things previously hidden, I don't know.

It contains one of my favourite moments of Atmos-use, even if it's nothing particularly showy. When Kidder's car breaks down in the desert during the earthquake, the rocks in cliff formations around her start to shake loose. This is heralded by the sound of a couple of them falling, placed in the Atmos speakers and perfectly in sync with them appearing onscreen, really selling the illusion that that have just fallen from directly above her. Bits like this impress me more than that swirling, sweeping examples of the format.

Enjoyed with Jim Beam Red Stag and coke, Superman: The Movie was bliss.

[Ben_UK]

Originally Posted by CompleteCount

I just finally got around to watching the 4K edition of Supes (where the hell did the last 18 months go?) and thoroughly enjoyed it. When it's possibly the very first film you saw at the cinema when it came out, the movie means a lot to you - and it certainly does.

I know the film intimately (I was one of the merry band involved with getting the RIC version of II out there) and even I noticed a couple of honking-great optical-related problems I hadn't seen before - be that imperfectly transferring it to 4K or that the format exposes things previously hidden, I don't know.

It contains one of my favourite moments of Atmos-use, even if it's nothing particularly showy. When Kidder's car breaks down in the desert during the earthquake, the rocks in cliff formations around her start to shake loose. This is heralded by the sound of a couple of them falling, placed in the Atmos speakers and perfectly in sync with them appearing onscreen, really selling the illusion that that have just fallen from directly above her. Bits like this impress me more than that swirling, sweeping examples of the format.

Enjoyed with Jim Beam Red Stag and coke, Superman: The Movie was bliss.

Someone needs to get onto WB to actually do a proper Donner Cut or should that be "extended cut" of SII, that is one without the £5 cheap CGI and audio sound looping that a music student could do better. I understand that there needs to be Lester footage in there, so I have made my peace with that, however the Donner Cut is a broken movie in its current form.

[suspiciouscoffee]

How exactly would someone make a “proper” Donner Cut when the man himself could only get the extant version out while he was still alive? At best you might someday get a remaster of the same idea a la Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

[Hammerlover]

Saw this when it came out in theaters back in December of 1978. Yeah, I'm old.