The Official Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Thread

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

Unless you also think those people should be eliminated???

That would be a conversation better off in PMs

[Penitus]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Well, as with Shia's statement, I would have to say that every word of Megan's is dead-on as well.

I feel sorry for you and anyone out there who wishes anyone was dead.

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

If she feels that way, she should express it. There's no sense in hiding who we are. One thing she needs to realize though is that it's not only middle-America that is full of moronic dregs, they are spread all over

she has every right to say what she wants, and I agree that their are a lot of people out there who can be moronic at times. That doesn't mean I wish them harm, though.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by Penitus

I feel sorry for you and anyone out there who wishes anyone was dead.

If eliminating the ones that contribute to the decay of society and retard the growth and maturing of the human race would satisfy an evil robot hell-bent on blood-shed, so be it.

[Hep]

Originally Posted by Penitus

I feel sorry for you and anyone out there who wishes anyone was dead.

Give it up! The comment was obivously toungue-in-cheek; I mean who really seriously threatens the lives of others with Megatron.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

she has every right to say what she wants, and I agree that their are a lot of people out there who can be moronic at times. That doesn't mean I wish them harm, though.

Have you been inoculated against diseases? Do you eat meat?

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

she has every right to say what she wants, and I agree that their are a lot of people out there who can be moronic at times. That doesn't mean I wish them harm, though.

It has nothing to do with wishing them harm, it has more to do with wishing them not able to cause harm, and talking sense to them is a futile effort.

[statikcat]

I am surprised at how many people here are not giving him proper respect for his acting. I mean sure he has not had any forest gump roles but for what he has done .. he has done it all perfectly. Imo he had a few great scenes in Eagle Eye .. especially at his brothers funeral. There were hardly any words but was still a pretty powerful scene.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by Hep

Give it up! The comment was obivously toungue-in-cheek; I mean who really seriously threatens the lives of others with Megatron.

Nope, I'm certain she was serious. She worked with Megatron so she's the only one that would really know if he's real or not

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Have you been inoculated against diseases? Do you eat meat?

Yes and yes

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

Yes and yes

Well then you contradict yourself.

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Well then you contradict yourself.

How so, and please don't tell me that eating meat because you are killing animals and being inoculated with vaccines had to first be tested on animals is the same as causing harm to other humans, because it is not.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

How so, and please don't tell me that eating meat because you are killing animals and being inoculated with vaccines had to first be tested on animals is the same as causing harm to other humans, because it is not.

I'm not saying they are the same.

To inoculate yourself you have to kill the life that is what you are trying to protect yourself from, and that is equivalent to her reasoning. It's not like she was saying that all people who's fav color is blue should be shot because hers is pink. She is against people that happen to have a negative effect on other peoples lives simply because they are the majority, not because they have any right to be.

And killing to eat when you don't have to is worse than killing to protect yourself.

And taking life is taking life, no matter how you justify it to yourself. If you are pro-death on any level then you can't really be against anybody else being pro-death just because the details vary slightly.

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

I'm not saying they are the same.

To inoculate yourself you have to kill the life that is what you are trying to protect yourself from, and that is equivalent to her reasoning. It's not like she was saying that all people who's fav color is blue should be shot because hers is pink. She is against people that happen to have a negative effect on other peoples lives simply because they are the majority, not because they have any right to be.

And killing to eat when you don't have to is worse than killing to protect yourself.

And taking life is taking life, no matter how you justify it to yourself. If you are pro-death on any level then you can't really be against anybody else being pro-death just because the details vary slightly.

Sorry, but taking a human's life and taking the life of an animal that is lower on the food chain that you eat is not the same.

And technically, you are not killing the life of something when you inoculate yourself because most of those are viruses and viruses are not considered living since they can't reproduce on their own

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

Sorry, but taking a human's life and taking the life of an animal that is lower on the food chain that you eat is not the same.

And technically, you are not killing the life of something when you inoculate yourself because most of those are viruses and viruses are not considered living since they can't reproduce on their own

Well you can't reproduce on your own either, so are you not living?

And yes, taking life that you consider lower on the food chain is the exact same as a sheltered xenophobe taking the life of a homosexual or other person with another characteristic that he doesn't approve of and considers to be a lower form of life
Just because you are used to it, and comfortable with it, doesn't make it any different. Animals are not plants. They may not be able to engage you in deep conversation but they do think and feel and love and hate and fear and feel pain just like you or I.

[Hep]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Nope, I'm certain she was serious. She worked with Megatron so she's the only one that would really know if he's real or not

Bested by pEgLeG!

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Well you can't reproduce on your own either, so are you not living?

You're right, I can't reproduce on my own, but I can with someone else of my species. Viruses, on the other hand, cannot. They must incorporate their viral DNA into a host and sometimes merge their DNA with the host DNA to replicate. So, technically speaking, viruses aren't living

And yes, taking life that you consider lower on the food chain is the exact same as a sheltered xenophobe taking the life of a homosexual or other person with another characteristic that he doesn't approve of and considers to be a lower form of life
Just because you are used to it, and comfortable with it, doesn't make it any different. Animals are not plants. They may not be able to engage you in deep conversation but they do think and feel and love and hate and fear and feel pain just like you or I.

Again, that person who kills a homosexual is not going to eat that homosexual. Also, killing your own species has been deemed morally wrong and is actually like that in many animal species. However, how do you think carnivores get their food? They don't usually eat their own, and they're aren't a ton of fleshy animals that do so. They eat animals lower on the food chain. A cow is lower on the food chain, so I have the choice to eat that animal because it is not deemed morally wrong to do so.

Also, eating meat provides a great deal of nutrients and amino acids that would have to be supplemented if I didn't get it from meat. For some people that could be more expensive.

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

You're right, I can't reproduce on my own, but I can with someone else of my species. Viruses, on the other hand, cannot. They must incorporate their viral DNA into a host and sometimes merge their DNA with the host DNA to replicate. So, technically speaking, viruses aren't living




Again, that person who kills a homosexual is not going to eat that homosexual. Also, killing your own species has been deemed morally wrong and is actually like that in many animal species. However, how do you think carnivores get their food? They don't usually eat their own, and they're aren't a ton of fleshy animals that do so. They eat animals lower on the food chain. A cow is lower on the food chain, so I have the choice to eat that animal because it is not deemed morally wrong to do so.

Also, eating meat provides a great deal of nutrients and amino acids that would have to be supplemented if I didn't get it from meat. For some people that could be more expensive.

Look, we could be arguing all night and into next week but the bottom line is I'm right and you're wrong J/K I jest, I jest. But I do have to go, I'm tired as hell so I'm off for the night

[drobswim13]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

Look, we could be arguing all night and into next week but the bottom line is I'm right and you're wrong J/K I jest, I jest. But I do have to go, I'm tired as hell so I'm off for the night

Agree to disagree. Good talkin to ya, and see you soon on this site

[pEgLeG]

Originally Posted by drobswim13

Agree to disagree. Good talkin to ya, and see you soon on this site

Ditto