I must learn that this thread doesn't require a poll

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by PH3AR

Both Movies Are Great but i like Braveheart more!

Same here. Gladiator was a blatant rip off.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Same here. Gladiator was a blatant rip off.

How is it a rip-off? Totally different stories. One mans plight is completely different than the others.

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

How is it a rip-off? Totally different stories. One mans plight is completely different than the others.

Both their greatly loved wives are killed thus they have to get revenge on the empires who rule over their people and directly led to their loved ones death.

If Troy won an Oscar they'd be heralding that as the new best thing. Also we probably have teenagers here who don't know and movie before 2000 because, they were still in middle school then listening to AWESSOME Linkin Park. They're awesome because, they don't follow the rules. The spell Lincoln wrong because, they're tough.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Gladiator was a blatant rip off.

That comment is intriguing... I may not remmber the movies that well so could you pease elaborate how Gladiator is a blatant rip off?

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by cvm

That comment is intriguing... I may not remmber the movies that well so could you pease elaborate how Gladiator is a blatant rip off?

Both their greatly loved wives are killed thus they have to get revenge on the empires who rule over their people and directly led to their loved ones death. Both have to get pesants/slaves to rebel against an army/country. Both die for their cause in the end. I think the ending of the movies are very similar too. When William Wallace is about die/be decapitated he sees his dead wife in the crowd. When Maximus dies his spirit flows through the fields to his dead wife and child waiting for him, if I remember that one right.
Braveheart:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6iS8oPlM44

Gladiator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svE2DRRopzE

[blu1183]

Both are midevil war epics with one man who stands up for his people (scots and slaves0 who lost their wives to the ruling empire. Except william wallace really lived. And yes william wallace would kick the shit out of max.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Both their greatly loved wives are killed thus they have to get revenge on the empires who rule over their people and directly led to their loved ones death. Both have to get pesants/slaves to rebel against an army/country. Both die for their cause in the end. I think the ending of the movies are very similar too. When William Wallace is about die/be decapitated he sees his dead wife in the crowd. When Maximus dies his spirit flows through the fields to his dead wife and child waiting for him, if I remember that one right.

I just don't see Gladiator as a rip-off (although I personally voted for Braveheart as the much better movie). I don't remember Max getting peasants and slaves to rebel against their country. He never sought to expose tyranny - he only wanted revenge against one man. Wallace took his revenge out on one man, then continued to right the bigger wrong on a much more epic scale.

As for their wives dying as a catalyst for their motives - that's half the movies out there. I wouldn't call Braveheart a rip-off any more then calling Gladiator a rip-off for using this highly used plot device (not sure if that actually happened to the real William Wallace).

To me, they were vastly different movies.

Originally Posted by blu1183

Both are midevil war epics with one man who stands up for his people (scots and slaves0 who lost their wives to the ruling empire.

Again, I'm sure we could find many movies set in many time periods with the same generalized plot. To me, both of these movies were fantastic in their own right.

[Vincent Vega82]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

I just don't see Gladiator as a rip-off (although I personally voted for Braveheart as the much better movie). I don't remember Max getting peasants and slaves to rebel against their country. He never sought to expose tyranny - he only wanted revenge against one man. Wallace took his revenge out on one man, then continued to right the bigger wrong on a much more epic scale.

As for their wives dying as a catalyst for their motives - that's half the movies out there. I wouldn't call Braveheart a rip-off any more then calling Gladiator a rip-off for using this highly used plot device (not sure if that actually happened to the real William Wallace).

To me, they were vastly different movies.



Again, I'm sure we could find many movies set in many time periods with the same generalized plot. To me, both of these movies were fantastic in their own right.

I agree I loved both but, Gladiator is like the step son you knew from 5 and Braveheart is like your own son. Sure you love them both but, your blood son will always be loved a little more.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

I just don't see Gladiator as a rip-off (although I personally voted for Braveheart as the much better movie). I don't remember Max getting peasants and slaves to rebel against their country. He never sought to expose tyranny - he only wanted revenge against one man. Wallace took his revenge out on one man, then continued to right the bigger wrong on a much more epic scale.

As for their wives dying as a catalyst for their motives - that's half the movies out there. I wouldn't call Braveheart a rip-off any more then calling Gladiator a rip-off for using this highly used plot device (not sure if that actually happened to the real William Wallace).

To me, they were vastly different movies.



Again, I'm sure we could find many movies set in many time periods with the same generalized plot. To me, both of these movies were fantastic in their own right.

+1

Both are great. However, Wallace is attempting to unite his people against tyranny, while Miximus' quest is simply personal (and depicted that way from the very begining).

To me, they are very different stories.

[ScarredLungs]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega82

Both their greatly loved wives are killed thus they have to get revenge on the empires who rule over their people and directly led to their loved ones death. Both have to get pesants/slaves to rebel against an army/country. Both die for their cause in the end. I think the ending of the movies are very similar too. When William Wallace is about die/be decapitated he sees his dead wife in the crowd. When Maximus dies his spirit flows through the fields to his dead wife and child waiting for him, if I remember that one right.
Braveheart:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6iS8oPlM44

Gladiator:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svE2DRRopzE

I see what you are sying but I never viewed it in that way

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

I just don't see Gladiator as a rip-off (although I personally voted for Braveheart as the much better movie). I don't remember Max getting peasants and slaves to rebel against their country. He never sought to expose tyranny - he only wanted revenge against one man. Wallace took his revenge out on one man, then continued to right the bigger wrong on a much more epic scale.

As for their wives dying as a catalyst for their motives - that's half the movies out there. I wouldn't call Braveheart a rip-off any more then calling Gladiator a rip-off for using this highly used plot device (not sure if that actually happened to the real William Wallace).

To me, they were vastly different movies.



Again, I'm sure we could find many movies set in many time periods with the same generalized plot. To me, both of these movies were fantastic in their own right.

I seem to agree with CYMBOL, they may have some similar apects, but overall they are way different.

[surfdude12]

both great movies, both similar themes as everyone has said (avenging lover, and i do thikn Maximus cares about Rome, as he cared about Caesar's legacy very much).

the reason i'd give a slight nod to Braveheart? it had more balance of fun and humor to balance out the massive killing. like stephen the irish guy was a blast. gladitoar didn't have any laughing or joking at all from what i remember. not a huge point, but enough of a tiebreaker for me.