Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I had a great time watching Blade Runner with a Hi-Fi VCR and a 19" tube TV with stereo sound circa 1987. Later, I watched Blade Runner on laserdisc with a 32" tube TV and still with stereo sound and so on until now I can watch it on 4K disc with a 85" 4K TV and a 9 speaker surround sound set-up. The movie stayed the same, but the presentation sure improved and along with it the overall viewing experience.

For us, that one has been a multi purchase. Hats off to the people responsible for making the UHD BD available. Great picture and a Atmos track that is better than several recent Disney titles.

From about 2001 to 2004 we had to watch HD content in our home office on a 19" NEC CRT computer monitor or a 17" Samsung flat panel computer monitor. Source was some edited OTA, PBS via satellite and D-VHS. That NEC was a monster.

[gotmule]

Speaking of presentation, my new projector gets installed tomorrow. It is the only piece of gear I phone a friend to help with since it is best as a two person job. Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Speaking of presentation, my new projector gets installed tomorrow. It is the only piece of gear I phone a friend to help with since it is best as a two person job. Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

That sounds exciting. Congrats!

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Speaking of presentation, my new projector gets installed tomorrow. It is the only piece of gear I phone a friend to help with since it is best as a two person job. Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

Congrats. Which one are you getting? NZ8/RS3100 like mine?

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

What stupid statements for someone that is clueless to make. Thought about asking Jason Rosenfeld (member here) of Scenic Labs to weigh in on disc manufacturing cost but have not done so.

I know you think you are smarter than anyone and know everything, but why resort to name calling you should be above this. By all means I'd like to hear from someone that knows cost for setting up Disc Replication and Manufacturing of DVD's, BD, and UHD. Jeff from Films-at-Home has brought in people from Independent Studios to talk about Budgets and Cost, which are very slim but their love for Film makes it all worthwhile. Jeff also talks about which Major Studios put out the Best and Worst Discs, and why!

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

The wait and the high cost are both.dreadful.

I’m very happy for you and excited to know how it goes. I have been loving my RS3100. JVC set a new standard with these models.

And, a new song from Pink Floyd was released yesterday which also has me over the moon.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Congrats. Which one are you getting? NZ8/RS3100 like mine?

Yup. NZ8. I feel like a kid on Christmas morning right now. I will be using your setup video you shared awhile ago, so thanks again!

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by bhampton

The wait and the high cost are both.dreadful.

I’m very happy for you and excited to know how it goes. I have been loving my RS3100. JVC set a new standard with these models.

And, a new song from Pink Floyd was released yesterday which also has me over the moon.

The wait was a bit much, but I don’t focus too much on things I can’t control. Plus I was pretty content with the Epson/Panamorph combo for the time being.

I was stoked to see a new song from them as well. Hopefully it lights a fire under Gilmour to do something bigger.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I’m 47 in 2 hours and 16 minutes!

Watched Gog in 3D. Really cool 3D once again by 3DFA.

happy belated Bday

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by unberechenbar

I didn't expect churn to be that high. I thought it'd be like 10-20% at most.

this is one industry where it makes perfect sense. Eat all that you can eat and move to the next one and do the same....

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

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April must be a good month for Birthdays, I just had one and I'm holding at 69. Spent it here at the Bellagio in Las Vegas, went to Lago for dinner. Had a Big Beefeaters Martini up Olives with my Cioppino....Cheers!

happy bday

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

C'mon now; how old are you really? Do we need to Carbon 14 date you? Did you need a fire permit to light the candles on your cake?

these where the voice activated phones he was installing when he started

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

happy belated Bday

Cheers mate.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

I know you think you are smarter than anyone and know everything, but why resort to name calling you should be above this.

No name calling here, you keep making statements about disc production cost and studio profits without any proof. That is against BD.COM rules. It makes you appear as nothing more than trolling here, also against the rules.

By all means I'd like to hear from someone that knows cost for setting up Disc Replication and Manufacturing of DVD's, BD, and UHD.

Why would a self professed all digital person give one hoot about that?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by alchav21

At least we agree that enjoying a Movie is Subjective, and even though the Quality can be different the enjoyment is the same.

For you the enjoyment might be the same. For me and many others it is not. I don't enjoy a film if it looks/sonds like crap because the whole time I am wondering how much better the presentation can be, the same way I don't enjoy as much a badly cooked meal.....

Many people have the false understanding that in order to enjoy a Movie the presentation has to be on Disc.

I prefer physical in general because of true ownership (no matter the format)

but no that is your own delusion. Because in your own mind there is a war that people need to pick a side on.
DVD cannot have a presentation that is as good as Kaleidescape 4k even though the first is a disk and and other is not. On the other hand none of the streaming providers offer anything even remotely close to UHD BD. It is not how the movie is distributed that matters but the specs of those distributions and what is the best each can offer that affects presentation.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Let me clarify my position. I watched Child’s Play on my phone last night. Because I was on a plane. The plane had Spider-Man No Way Home but I’m waiting till I get home to watch on Disc when I see it for the first time
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If Joe has an $800 phone and enjoys watching movies on it then I’m all for that. Do with what you have. I’m happy if you enjoy whatever.

I wouldn’t have watched something on the plane thing but I snooped some looks at what others were watching.

I’ve been enjoying movies all my life and at home I put together something good with Panasonic UB9000 and JVC laser projector. I don’t need something to be on disc to enjoy it but it sure helps me relax knowing I am most likely getting a first class presentation.

exactly When I used to travel a lot I used to pack films and watch them on my laptops, to me that was not about "watching" a film but about making the flight less tedious. If I am with friends at their place, if they want to watch something on streaming then we do that, but it is not about watching the film (and I don't count it even if it is a disk I brought from home which friends have asked me to do) it is about hanging pout with friends. There are only a couple of other places that count as watching a film then the best presentation in my HT (and even my family room and bedroom don't count)

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Speaking of presentation, my new projector gets installed tomorrow. It is the only piece of gear I phone a friend to help with since it is best as a two person job. Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

Did your dealer honor the price when ordered or did you have to pay the new price? Would like to see pictures when finished mounting.

Ordered a Zappiti NAS, additional external disc drive and Zappiti Neo media player many weeks ago. Supposed to be delivered this coming Wednesday. Fixing to order 9 WD Red Plus 14TB HDD's, in RAID 5 this will give me 98TB of storage. Will have an extra drive, just in case.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Speaking of presentation, my new projector gets installed tomorrow. It is the only piece of gear I phone a friend to help with since it is best as a two person job. Only took about 5 months to get and JVC has also raised pricing by $1000.

congrats and enjoy

[cheez avenger]

Watched "France" on BD last night. It's pretty cool film with Lea Sedoux. Funny enough, its currently streaming on Criterion Channel.

I watched War of the Worlds (2005) and it's definitely a demo disc. I did not hate it as much as I did back in 2005. I always hated the Robbie character. Speaking of War of the Worlds, I'm going to have to watch the series on EPIX.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Happy Birthday, alchav!
C'mon now; how old are you really? Do we need to Carbon 14 date you? Did you need a fire permit to light the candles on your cake?

Originally Posted by Anthony P

these where the voice activated phones he was installing when he started

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Pretty close, but more like this phone. Lets just say I was in the Cusp of the Baby Boomers!