From Avatar to Light Fields: 3D’s Making a Comeback

[Interdimensional]

From Avatar to Light Fields: 3D’s Making a Comeback

I'm not sure that I agree with all of the claims in this article (at least in terms of assessing the recent history of 3D cinema), but it's not the usual hatchet-job. The potential of microlens arrays is the more interesting subject here.

[Joe D.]

I don't know if the complaints would hold water today. Those who come to our house and experience 3D television for the first time are wowed by the immersion more than finding anything to complain about with glasses or eyestrain.

If 3D was introduced again simply as an added, optional feature, am sure it will have a slow but steady growth WITHIN the field that buys bluray discs. That's the rub. It has to be seen within that category, not all television buyers.

[dhvsfan]

Originally Posted by Joe D.

I don't know if the complaints would hold water today. Those who come to our house and experience 3D television for the first time are wowed by the immersion more than finding anything to complain about with glasses or eyestrain.

If 3D was introduced again simply as an added, optional feature, am sure it will have a slow but steady growth WITHIN the field that buys bluray discs. That's the rub. It has to be seen within that category, not all television buyers.

I have the same reaction when people come to my house to experience 3D.
I have 3D movies and oftentimes play 3D games. The WOW factor is always high.

I agree with your comment about the re-introduction of 3D.
If someone out there is going to OEM Samsung QLED sets, I'll work on the software for the added 3D feature

Please get a hold of me!!

[Interdimensional]

What they discuss in the article isn't just glasses-free technology, but really a different type of medium to the stereoscopic 3D we have to more of a holographic 3D in which you could shift position to get a different view or look behind foreground objects.

There's also talk about stereoscopic 3D and what 'went wrong', as if various technological advances are required to make it palatable for audiences. Including the dubious notion that you can't look anywhere other than the point of convergence without getting a headache and the worrying suggestion that content should accommodate for this. I don't think it's a question of technology, it's how the technology is used. There will always be a certain contingent that can't be bothered with 3D, as well the vocal detractors, no matter how polished things get technologically. I look forward to seeing new developments, but what we have right now works just fine for me. At this point in time, whether 3D is impressive or not is almost entirely down to the content.

[presidentevil3d]

Originally Posted by dhvsfan

I have the same reaction when people come to my house to experience 3D.
I have 3D movies and oftentimes play 3D games. The WOW factor is always high.

I agree with your comment about the re-introduction of 3D.
If someone out there is going to OEM Samsung QLED sets, I'll work on the software for the added 3D feature

Please get a hold of me!!

I noticed that in the 2017 and 2016 service menus, you can enable or disable 3d but it had no effect assuming software needed

Shame as the demo for the 2018 qleds has a flying turtle thing that looks made for 3d, its sharp, but too flat to amaze in 2d

[Lee A Stewart]

Amazing 3D Wrangler Ad - YouTube

3D digital billboard image of a giant cat draws attention in Tokyo - YouTube

[unberechenbar]

Pretty cool but I wonder if this can translate to glasses-free 3D on a consumer level, especially if it requires a curved screen.

[Lee A Stewart]

3D Digital Billboards

https://www.adhaiwell.com/what-is-re...d-display.html

[Lee A Stewart]

3D LED billboards and OOH advertising amazing Trends 2021, The best 3D LED board in the world - YouTube

[WaverBoy]

So…is there any realistic hope for glasses-free 3-D TVs? I’ll be fine with my lovely 65” 4K Sony Bravia XBR65Z9D (which now has nigh-perfect, usually-crosstalk-free active 3-D reproduction thanks to a few firmware updates) and the wealth of classic and new 3-D Blu-rays already released and some still in the works, but if there’s any way that glasses-free 3-D TVs could bring about a comeback…

[Lee A Stewart]

I don't know a whole lot about how those billboards work. But as you can see, they are not flat panels. They are two and three sided which might preclude them from ever being in a home environment.

They are called Naked Eye 3D Billboards.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

I don't know a whole lot about how those billboards work. But as you can see, they are not flat panels. They are two and three sided which might preclude them from ever being in a home environment.

They are called Naked Eye 3D Billboards.

Those "3D Billboards" only look good from a certain angle/vantage point. If you look at them from a different point/angle, they look like distorted 2D images.
https://gizmodo.com/3d-billboard-of-...-ot-1847233568

Not to mention it only works for certain content, which has been designed to be something within the "box" of the display.

[globalimages2]

Originally Posted by WaverBoy

So…is there any realistic hope for glasses-free 3-D TVs? I’ll be fine with my lovely 65” 4K Sony Bravia XBR65Z9D (which now has nigh-perfect, usually-crosstalk-free active 3-D reproduction thanks to a few firmware updates) and the wealth of classic and new 3-D Blu-rays already released and some still in the works, but if there’s any way that glasses-free 3-D TVs could bring about a comeback…

Sorry to say but, in spite of ANYTHING you read about it, not at all.

"Glasses-free" 3D-TV at home the way we think about it/want it to be, will NEVER happen, as it's mostly a physical impossibility, rather than a technological one. SIMILAR things with lots of restrictions are possible, but a "TV" that performs just about exactly how our current (well, now discontinued) 3D TV's but without glasses, compatible with current un-altered 3D films, it's not possible to be made. Ever. At any cost. Not without both, cost AND restrictions.

We can debate this to death, but let's just save some time and agree to meet here again in 10 years and then continue the argument. Surely, if it's possible, Apple or Intel or Microsoft or Samsung or Sony or Panasonic or LG or Canon or some chinese company will do it and grab the market by then, right? They'll make billions$$$$. It's only been some 75 years trying to make one. So let's just wait another 10.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by globalimages2

Sorry to say but, in spite of ANYTHING you read about it, not at all.

"Glasses-free" 3D-TV at home the way we think about it/want it to be, will NEVER happen, as it's mostly a physical impossibility, rather than a technological one. SIMILAR things with lots of restrictions are possible, but a "TV" that performs just about exactly how our current (well, now discontinued) 3D TV's but without glasses, compatible with current un-altered 3D films, it's not possible to be made. Ever. At any cost. Not without both, cost AND restrictions.

We can debate this to death, but let's just save some time and agree to meet here again in 10 years and then continue the argument. Surely, if it's possible, Apple or Intel or Microsoft or Samsung or Sony or Panasonic or LG or Canon or some chinese company will do it and grab the market by then, right? They'll make billions$$$$. It's only been some 75 years trying to make one. So let's just wait another 10.

Are you a fortune teller?

You have too much certainties that manufacturers aren't near of what has already been achieved.

If there is a future to it after release is another story. 3D has to be main focus to thrive instead of 2D most tv workstations do to make 3D a thing in the present and future.

[globalimages2]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Are you a fortune teller?

LOL, I wish. I would be so rich then!

Fortunately or not, when it comes to the laws of physics, it's about the only time when we mere humans can accurately make predictions and there is pretty much no way around it.

I guess we'll find out in 10 years if we can buy a glasses-free 3D TV to watch our current, un-altered 3D blu-ray collection with a similar quality (i.e. HD) and reasonable lack of artifacts and problems (i.e. low or no "ghosting") in a living room filled with 6 or 7 audience members in random places -- near, far, left right, lying on the floor, standing up, a child sitting on a mother's lap -- and still get the appropriate left&right eye pair images like we do today for each person ... that wears the 3D glasses ...

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by globalimages2

LOL, I wish. I would be so rich then!

Fortunately or not, when it comes to the laws of physics, it's about the only time when we mere humans can accurately make predictions and there is pretty much no way around it.

I guess we'll find out in 10 years if we can buy a glasses-free 3D TV to watch our current, un-altered 3D blu-ray collection with a similar quality (i.e. HD) and reasonable lack of artifacts and problems (i.e. low or no "ghosting") in a living room filled with 6 or 7 audience members in random places -- near, far, left right, lying on the floor, standing up, a child sitting on a mother's lap -- and still get the appropriate left&right eye pair images like we do today for each person ... that wears the 3D glasses ...

Lenticular curved 3D screens(the curve was designed to eliminate cross talk) and there are being in exhibition some holographic 3D projectors/screens.

The tech already exists. What lacks is a real will to make content by broadcasters and studios after the big cinema's boom.

These people(investors and corporations) have near sight for profit, they can't think long term, they can't make real investments without panicking because they can lose some bucks.

Avatar came and then it was their golden goose... every trash they touched was supposed to turn gold on their hands, but costumers are tired of schemers that just want to get rich without effort and lose interest on their plots. That's why this 3D era is losing momentum and stopping.

But let me tell you something, if it weren't for this 3D era, because Marvel and DC movies and others that grabbed it by the Bs, we wouldn't have the best 3D storytelling and cinematography instead of some movies throwing things to the screen without meaning.

Things don't have to be instantaneous like junk food... not even junk food is instantaneous. Good things burn slow and keep burning longer. 3D needs to be thought in a long term with planning and more content than sports and throwing things to the audience.