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Robert Zohn · 04-21-2022, 08:49 PM

Our 2nd allocation of Samsung S95B QD OLED TVs is arriving tomorrow morning and D-Nice and I will be checking them out.

Robert Zohn · 04-22-2022, 12:05 AM

We're Sony's launch partner for the moist highly anticipated 2022 TVs.

Today we started shipping Sony's new 2022 75" and 85" X95K MiniLED TVs with Sony's Backlight Master Drive and the 2nd generation XR processor.

samlop10 · 04-23-2022, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Samsung S95B QD-OLED vs A90J Review with Benchmark Disc for 10K Nit TV - YouTube

I kind of got angry at myself for watching that video lol. I kind of skipped around but I don’t believe he ever mentions how closely/accurately Samsung was tracking the colors and brightness curve. They definitely look different but it just seemed to me Samsung was pushing everything brighter like they usually do with their other TV models. And knowing Sony, the brightness was probably more accurate in that set.

Penton-Man · 04-23-2022, 10:23 PM

tomorrow and next week - https://flandersscientific.com/news/...article=042022

significance of the XM312U - https://amplify.nabshow.com/articles...dr-mainstream/

I DO BLU · 04-24-2022, 08:13 PM

Deadend45 · 04-24-2022, 10:40 PM

A lot of superlatives and zero technical details. I am far more interested in grayscale and color DeltaE values and calibration abilities.

And stop using Samsung demos as 'proof' of anything. Reminds me of the cartoon demos flogged to show how LCDs are the 'best'.

Deadend45 · 04-24-2022, 10:53 PM

Oh wait I know whats missing. Show us some Dolby Vision demos!

I DO BLU · 04-24-2022, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadend45

A lot of superlatives and zero technical details. I am far more interested in grayscale and color DeltaE values and calibration abilities.

And stop using Samsung demos as 'proof' of anything. Reminds me of the cartoon demos flogged to show how LCDs are the 'best'.

You do realize you can’t show movies nor anything else copyrighted? So they can only show certain things without a violation.

gkolb · 04-25-2022, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

tomorrow and next week - https://flandersscientific.com/news/...article=042022

significance of the XM312U - https://amplify.nabshow.com/articles...dr-mainstream/

Fascinating. (Intoned in Spock’s voice).
A 5000 nit grading monitor. Check it out if you skipped this post.

GODHOOD · 04-25-2022, 07:06 AM

The lack of Dolby Vision on the Samsung S95B QD Oled is what's holding me back from buying it even though the top YouTube influencers are going gaga over it.

Most of my 4K UHD discs have Dolby Vision / standard HDR rarely do I get a HDR10 / HDR10+ disc except when I receive a movie from overseas.

The Sony A95K QD Oled has Dolby Vision / HDR10 so I'm waiting for reviews on that one.

On a side note I suspect LG isn't too happy with these QD oleds, they're probably already planning something for next year.

Geoff D · 04-25-2022, 12:06 PM

If the top “influencers” are going crazy for it then that’s a definite sign to steer clear!

Robert Zohn · 04-25-2022, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadend45

A lot of superlatives and zero technical details. I am far more interested in grayscale and color DeltaE values and calibration abilities.

And stop using Samsung demos as 'proof' of anything. Reminds me of the cartoon demos flogged to show how LCDs are the 'best'.

We'll be thoroughly testing and evaluating Samsung's S95B and later in May Sony's A95K QD OLED TVs. These are true and reliable 1st impressions from YouTube a/v speciality channel owners that agree on the new and stunning image quality, specifically in color saturation and peak luminance.

I can also tell you that myself and every video enthusiast and the every day TV shopper that have visited our showroom all love our Samsung S95B store demo TV. We'll soon know if it's just blown out and oversaturated by the presets and how accurate the EOTG PQ Curve and Color Gamut measure.

MechaGodzilla · 04-25-2022, 12:40 PM

Sony have put up the Swedish prices for their TV line-up and WOW. The 65" X95K isn't far behind the same size A95K, and it's even closer in price to the 85" X90K.

I mean, I understand it, though. Mini LED backlight, Backlight Master Drive, a big increase in local dimming zones... that stuff doesn't come for free.

avs commenter · 04-25-2022, 01:36 PM

Is Samsung typically competitive (sales vs other brands) in the premium market? I assumed the bulk of their business was their midrange and budget units.

Geoff D · 04-25-2022, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Sony have put up the Swedish prices for their TV line-up and WOW. The 65" X95K isn't far behind the same size A95K, and it's even closer in price to the 85" X90K.

I mean, I understand it, though. Mini LED backlight, Backlight Master Drive, a big increase in local dimming zones... that stuff doesn't come for free.

The 65 seems to be coming in at 3000 britpounds, slightly lower than I expected.

samlop10 · 04-25-2022, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Is Samsung typically competitive (sales vs other brands) in the premium market? I assumed the bulk of their business was their midrange and budget units.

I would say they’re the brand with the most inaccurate picture renderings compared to other brands. At least with other brands you can calibrate them into something more accurate, but with most, if not all, Samsung TVs even a calibration will still leave you with higher inaccuracies compared to other brands. I expect these new QD-OLED models will be the same.

MechaGodzilla · 04-25-2022, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

The 65 seems to be coming in at 3000 britpounds, slightly lower than I expected.

40,000 Swedish crowns, which equals around £3,230. So it's close.

I think I was expecting it to be lower, but I'm not shocked. Especially with inflation adding to it. Here all the 2022 models are a bit more expensive than their 2021 predecessors.

I DO BLU · 04-25-2022, 06:47 PM

Waboman · 04-25-2022, 09:26 PM

I wonder how the Swedish bikini team looks on this? Talk about *pop*

samlop10 · 04-25-2022, 09:44 PM

Called it.

Not that it would be surprising, though, given it’s Samsung. It is worth noting how Samsung is going out of their way to trick/lie to calibrators by ‘massaging’ the results when typical pattern windows are used. Kind of messed up.

Another reason to avoid Samsung even more.

Sony’s QD OLED should be better/more accurate hopefully.

04-24-2022, 10:40 PM	#906
Deadend45 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2019 Location:Canada 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	A lot of superlatives and zero technical details. I am far more interested in grayscale and color DeltaE values and calibration abilities. And stop using Samsung demos as 'proof' of anything. Reminds me of the cartoon demos flogged to show how LCDs are the 'best'. Last edited by Deadend45; 04-24-2022 at 10:46 PM.

04-21-2022, 08:49 PM	#901
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	Our 2nd allocation of Samsung S95B QD OLED TVs is arriving tomorrow morning and D-Nice and I will be checking them out.

04-22-2022, 12:05 AM	#902
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	We're Sony's launch partner for the moist highly anticipated 2022 TVs. Today we started shipping Sony's new 2022 75" and 85" X95K MiniLED TVs with Sony's Backlight Master Drive and the 2nd generation XR processor.

04-23-2022, 10:23 PM	#904
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	tomorrow and next week - https://flandersscientific.com/news/...article=042022 significance of the XM312U - https://amplify.nabshow.com/articles...dr-mainstream/

04-24-2022, 10:53 PM	#907
Deadend45 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2019 Location:Canada 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:-	Oh wait I know whats missing. Show us some Dolby Vision demos!

04-25-2022, 07:06 AM	#910
GODHOOD Special Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Orlando, Florida U.S.	The lack of Dolby Vision on the Samsung S95B QD Oled is what's holding me back from buying it even though the top YouTube influencers are going gaga over it. Most of my 4K UHD discs have Dolby Vision / standard HDR rarely do I get a HDR10 / HDR10+ disc except when I receive a movie from overseas. The Sony A95K QD Oled has Dolby Vision / HDR10 so I'm waiting for reviews on that one. On a side note I suspect LG isn't too happy with these QD oleds, they're probably already planning something for next year.

04-25-2022, 12:06 PM	#911
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	If the top “influencers” are going crazy for it then that’s a definite sign to steer clear!

04-25-2022, 12:40 PM	#913
MechaGodzilla Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Sweden 4K collection:96 Blu-ray collection:660 DVD collection:234	Sony have put up the Swedish prices for their TV line-up and WOW. The 65" X95K isn't far behind the same size A95K, and it's even closer in price to the 85" X90K. I mean, I understand it, though. Mini LED backlight, Backlight Master Drive, a big increase in local dimming zones... that stuff doesn't come for free.

04-25-2022, 01:36 PM	#914
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	Is Samsung typically competitive (sales vs other brands) in the premium market? I assumed the bulk of their business was their midrange and budget units.

04-25-2022, 09:26 PM	#919
Waboman Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2009 Location:In a van down by the river 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:500 Trading Score:3	I wonder how the Swedish bikini team looks on this? Talk about pop

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