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Old 04-13-2022, 11:35 AM   #3321
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Apple does have their own Spatial audio mixing toolset, but it must be converted if you go to render a master file. Even the same with MPEG-H as only 4k PAL region tuners in Europe have MPEG-H decoders. In order to have backwards compatibility, the final file must be converted to Dolby Atmos for other regions.



The Trinnov may have MSS and even MPEG-H, but how many people are going to shell out over $10,000 for even a basic Altitude16? I mean, come on!
Wait, what? You keep mentioning Trinnov during other discussions about Atmos e.g. https://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=58314307 but when someone else does it to support their argument suddenly it's out of bounds? I'm not following this discussion closely so I can't quite tell what you're both disputing, but still...
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12 Monkeys (1995) Arrow USA: MEL - 0.08 Mb/s

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Moonfall (2022) FEL - 7.56 Mb/s

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Uncharted (2022): MEL - 2.1 Mb/s (assuming MEL since Sony)

Code:
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Uncharted (2022): MEL - 2.1 Mb/s (assuming MEL since Sony)
Metadata says it's MEL also

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Metadata says it's MEL also

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Beverly Hills Cop II (1987): FEL - 14.8 Mb/s

Code:
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Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -27dB
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -24dB
Dolby Digital Audio French 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -28dB
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What tool did you use to get this metadata?
Quietvoid's dovi_tool

https://github.com/quietvoid/dovi_tool

Run 'extract-rpu' then 'list' to display the metadata for a frame. Compare the output with the table in paragraph 6.2 of Dolby's DV profile and levels specification to determine if MEL or FEL.
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The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) FEL - 11.58 Mb/s

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Disc Size:      62,066,431,663 bytes
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AUDIO:

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The Batman (2022) MEL - 2.10 Mb/s

BDinfo:
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