Red Sonja

[kdawq]

that steelbook artwork looks incredible! pre ordered!

[CouncilSpectre]

1. Saw the announcement
2. Saw the pre-order link
3. Ordered
4. Watched the trailer
5. Saw it had been Ritrovata’d
6. Cancelled pre-order

When will this obsession with yellow-tinting movies end? Teal was bad enough but nowhere near as f***ing irritating as this.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

1. Saw the announcement
2. Saw the pre-order link
3. Ordered
4. Watched the trailer
5. Saw it had been Ritrovata’d
6. Cancelled pre-order

When will this obsession with yellow-tinting movies end? Teal was bad enough but nowhere near as f***ing irritating as this.

And where are all the filmmakers who campaigned so vigorously against colorization - which is exactly what it is when you change the original colour scheme, and with it the mood, emotion or even weather and season the filmmakers sought to evoke to ones that have different values, whether its the piss filter, orange and teal or warming up - while this abomination ravages library after library's back catalogue?

[CouncilSpectre]

Originally Posted by Aclea

And where are all the filmmakers who campaigned so vigorously against colorization - which is exactly what it is when you change the original colour scheme, and with it the mood, emotion or even weather and season the filmmakers to evoke to ones that have different values, whether its the piss filter, orange and teal or warming up - while this abomination ravages library after library's back catalogue?

We’re living through the age of revisionism.

The Ritrovata stuff in particular, I don’t see how anyone looks at that and thinks it looks good.

I saw an AI-colourised version of PENNY SERENADE a few days ago. Grading looked better than this…

[Yami]

I seem to remember reading a theory that the restoration houses apply these LUTs not because of aesthetic revisionism but because their technical workflow is set up for output to 35mm and it compensates for the colour value shift. Which makes sense but you'd imagine that digital masters are their primary market now, so you'd think they'd have changed course in the past decade

[CouncilSpectre]

It’s a damning indictment on their workflow practices if that is the reason. Even QA should be picking up that output and saying “Hey fellas, this doesn’t look quite right”…

Screenbound have PANDORA coming soon, that’ll be another one if they’re using the Cohen restoration

[indisposed]

It reminds me of their Rambo III and Flash Gordon transfers (though Flash Gordon wasn't Ritrovata) ; looks like it might be a strain on the eyes with how flashed it looks. I wouldn't be surprised to see the use of the kind of "automatic dirt removal procedure" that confuses actual details in the film with specks... All three of their Rambo transfers suffered from that in varying degrees.

[pulpmattman]

Originally Posted by Aclea

And where are all the filmmakers who campaigned so vigorously against colorization - which is exactly what it is when you change the original colour scheme, and with it the mood, emotion or even weather and season the filmmakers sought to evoke to ones that have different values, whether its the piss filter, orange and teal or warming up - while this abomination ravages library after library's back catalogue?

I blame Peter Jackson, the Wachowskis, and Wong Kar-wai. The only thing worse than a studio doing this is a filmmaker supervising it.

[NeilZ]

In my opinion the reaction is a bit much. The trailer was very promising in my view. Yes there's a new grade in town, but it's not as dramatic as the usual Ritrovata job.

[indisposed]

Originally Posted by pulpmattman

I blame Peter Jackson, the Wachowskis, and Wong Kar-wai. The only thing worse than a studio doing this is a filmmaker supervising it.

I'm glad you didn't mention Wild Bill Friedkin... it would have set Aclea off.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

In my opinion the reaction is a bit much. The trailer was very promising in my view. Yes there's a new grade in town, but it's not as dramatic as the usual Ritrovata job.

Yeah, there's a bit of yellow and teal but it looks punchy at least, whereas Ritrovata's stuff is super dull with zero contrast.

[pulpmattman]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

In my opinion the reaction is a bit much. The trailer was very promising in my view. Yes there's a new grade in town, but it's not as dramatic as the usual Ritrovata job.

Yeah it doesn't look as bad as those imo, based on that trailer. This movie has always had a grimy transfer and this does look like an improvement. We'll see what the reviews say.

[Aclea]

Originally Posted by indisposed

I'm glad you didn't mention Wild Bill Friedkin... it would have set Aclea off.

You mean Hurricane Billy? Beloved by all and a model of restraint: you won't hear a bad word from a soul who's dealt with him.

[supes78]

I am especially looking forward to the bonus documentary about Renato Casaro. He is such an underrated movie poster artist. At least in the USA. His new artwork for the Red Sonja 4K is just incredible. He really hasn't lost his touch even in his mid 80s!

[mjvmovieman]

Originally Posted by Aclea

And where are all the filmmakers who campaigned so vigorously against colorization - which is exactly what it is when you change the original colour scheme, and with it the mood, emotion or even weather and season the filmmakers sought to evoke to ones that have different values, whether its the piss filter, orange and teal or warming up - while this abomination ravages library after library's back catalogue?

Where is the trailer for the 4k release?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by mjvmovieman

Where is the trailer for the 4k release?

RED SONJA (1985) | 4K Restoration | Trailer | Dir. by Richard Fleischer - YouTube

[Muyfa666]

Just pre-ordered a copy. Kind of a guilty pleasure, this one. :-)

[BiggusDickus]

Originally Posted by kdawq

that steelbook artwork looks incredible! pre ordered!

Same!

[TK_171]

My Steelbook got dispatched yesterday so hopefully be here a bit earlier than release day

[Socko]

Can you imagine how Conan the Barbarian would look like in 4k. Those costumes would get a lot of detail and the scenery would pop.

It would be a crime against humanity if Conan the Destroyer is the next one to get a 4k release.
Unless they save the best for last