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Brian81 · 06-09-2022, 02:33 AM

If one wants the original cut, is it better to go for the 2005 two disc edition or the original in the snapper case? Both appear to be anamorphic. But 2005 is too close to the Warner DVD rot period and after losing so many Warner dual layer discs to rot, I wonder if the old snapper edition may be the safer bet?

vector72 · 06-09-2022, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

So this 4K will be from the same restoration as the 2017 Blu-ray? I thought that release looked to dark.

Yes. The UHD stream is also dark. The latest restoration is the 2017 one. If you check the OP, it doesn't even say new, it says "previously restored". I'll credit Geoff D for advising that if you watch it, watch it in complete darkness.

Blu-ray Neo · 06-09-2022, 02:39 AM

I wonder if the 4K UHD will contain the extended cut as well...

vector72 · 06-09-2022, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-ray Neo

I wonder if the 4K UHD will contain the extended cut as well...

Nope.

KubrickKurasawa · 06-09-2022, 03:21 AM

Heat will be on a BD-100.

Agent Kay · 06-09-2022, 05:39 AM

Disney know how to encode and don't need a 100 for this

OutOfBoose · 06-09-2022, 05:50 AM

Plus it doesn't have crapton of audio tracks. So BD-66 should be enough for a 3-hour movie.

KubrickKurasawa · 06-09-2022, 06:01 AM

Just stop, they know how to encode CGI and CARTOONS.

NOT FILM.

Gmamalis6 · 06-09-2022, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

So this 4K will be from the same restoration as the 2017 Blu-ray? I thought that release looked to dark.

Never say never. Perhaps with HDR the picture will be improved.

Farerb · 06-09-2022, 06:12 AM

I never had any issue with any of Disney's 66GB discs unlike other studios with their 100GB discs, most notably Warner and Lionsgate. And you can even check the Sony or Panasonic threads on the hardware sub forum, and see people constantly complain about freezing in LOTR, Dune, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, etc... And people telling them that it will be fixed in the next software update but it never ever will, and it's time to put this into light and stop ignoring the that there's an issue with 100GB discs. Good for Disney for not falling for the populist decision and giving the consumer a reliable technology, I wish other studios would have done that.

Agent Kay · 06-09-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Just stop, they know how to encode CGI and CARTOONS.

NOT FILM.

Yep, Speed is a disaster of a disc....

Nosferatu31 · 06-09-2022, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gmamalis6

Never say never. Perhaps with HDR the picture will be improved.

Hopefully. I just grabbed a brand new copy of the 2009 Blu-ray from ebay. Always regret getting rid of that one after purchasing the 2017 release.

Agent Kay · 06-09-2022, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Hopefully. I just grabbed a brand new copy of the 2009 Blu-ray from ebay. Always regret getting rid of that one after purchasing the 2017 release.

It's the best of the HD masters

Pieter V · 06-09-2022, 06:47 AM

Amazon.co.uk

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Number of discs ‏ : ‎ 2

Boooooooooo, if true.

Also made changes to IMDb and removed Dolby Atmos and was approved.

Mierzwiak · 06-09-2022, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by overmang5

Tell that to the 3D IMAX release

Wow, somehow, by quoting wikipedia, you've made your statement even more nonsensical!

Once again: Avatar was released in full 1,78:1 (you know what it means, right?) aspect ratio on DVD, Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D and it's available in such version on digital, including Disney+.

The question is: WHAT IMAX SCENES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

JG7 · 06-09-2022, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I have very little faith in the majors doing anything with their properties anymore. Other than Paramount, none really seem to care...and even Paramount aren't doing much with 4k

Sad Sony noise. WB and Universal are also nowhere near Disney level bad.

Pieter V · 06-09-2022, 08:52 AM

Amazon.com

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Best Sellers Rank: #2 in Movies & TV (See Top 100 in Movies & TV)
#1 in Blu-ray

TravisTylerBlack · 06-09-2022, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieter V

Amazon.com

Just saw what's at number one (Movies & TV) and now I feel sick.

Geoff D · 06-09-2022, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Plus it doesn't have crapton of audio tracks. So BD-66 should be enough for a 3-hour movie.

Three hour movie that’s shot on digital is one thing to squeeze into a UHD66, but a three hour movie shot on film - with plenty of fine grain - is a different challenge. Even Fox broke their own no-triple-deckers rule when they released Braveheart on UHD outside the US.

The average bitrate for the whole transport stream inc audio and video will have to be ~50 Mb/s to fit Heat onto a UHD66. Not great, not terrible. But Disnee just seem to have the knack for making it work.

Rollo Tomassi · 06-09-2022, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Three hour movie that’s shot on digital is one thing to squeeze into a UHD66, but a three hour movie shot on film - with plenty of fine grain - is a different challenge. Even Fox broke their own no-triple-deckers rule when they released Braveheart on UHD outside the US.

The average bitrate for the whole transport stream inc audio and video will have to be ~50 Mb/s to fit Heat onto a UHD66. Not great, not terrible. But Disnee just seem to have the knack for making it work.

Hate to be pessimistic about this, but apply enough DNR then there be no more grain left to worry about! Hope Stinkey Mouse doesn't repeat the "Pirates of the Caribbean" debacle with one of my all-time favourites!

06-09-2022, 02:33 AM	#1601
Brian81 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:4	If one wants the original cut, is it better to go for the 2005 two disc edition or the original in the snapper case? Both appear to be anamorphic. But 2005 is too close to the Warner DVD rot period and after losing so many Warner dual layer discs to rot, I wonder if the old snapper edition may be the safer bet?

06-09-2022, 02:39 AM	#1603
Blu-ray Neo Special Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Duncan, SC USA 4K collection:186 Blu-ray collection:2087 DVD collection:71 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:156	I wonder if the 4K UHD will contain the extended cut as well...

06-09-2022, 03:21 AM	#1605
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	Heat will be on a BD-100.

06-09-2022, 05:39 AM	#1606
Agent Kay Banned Member since:May 2018 4K collection:57 Blu-ray collection:57	Disney know how to encode and don't need a 100 for this

06-09-2022, 05:50 AM	#1607
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Plus it doesn't have crapton of audio tracks. So BD-66 should be enough for a 3-hour movie.

06-09-2022, 06:01 AM	#1608
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	Just stop, they know how to encode CGI and CARTOONS. NOT FILM.

06-09-2022, 06:12 AM	#1610
Farerb Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Oct 2018 4K collection:93 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I never had any issue with any of Disney's 66GB discs unlike other studios with their 100GB discs, most notably Warner and Lionsgate. And you can even check the Sony or Panasonic threads on the hardware sub forum, and see people constantly complain about freezing in LOTR, Dune, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, etc... And people telling them that it will be fixed in the next software update but it never ever will, and it's time to put this into light and stop ignoring the that there's an issue with 100GB discs. Good for Disney for not falling for the populist decision and giving the consumer a reliable technology, I wish other studios would have done that.

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