News: displays and their technologies

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

So it’s okay to receive continual ego boosts (like spamming Top Gun 2 every chance they get, and doing it for what seems like forever) from fawning ‘minions’ on forums as long as you’re a champion of your chosen industry and are “mansion comfortable”. Got it.

lol Geoff, no ego boost from past posting about technical matters - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post18526501 nor Top Gun 2. If anything, except for a couple members like perhaps Agent Kay or gkolb, despite BTS pics, most marginalized the Top Gun: Maverick contributions by ignoring them shortly after the time (other than here, unknown to social media) the carrier got underway - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post16930910

For the dopamine receptors (https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-...ay-to-pleasure ) to be stimulated by ego boost, I reckon I need an agent, e.g. Vincent T. has I Do Blu and you have Staying Salty.


Alas, I’m only a guy with a cat - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post18978888
who rides bikes - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post18822891
and enjoys educating - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post18713839
and learning, even in places where few or no one is actively listening - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post20164143

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PaulGo

When I was a Broadcast Engineer for NBC many years ago we had the first color monitors and TV cameras which were quite expensive. I did not work on the cameras, but I did tweak the huge tube based monitors. What I learned then is that there was no such ting as perfect. You get is as close as possible with alignment and color. That more or less is my current philosophy. No alignment needed on current TVs, but I do adjust the setting on all inputs to what I like the best (which may take some time) and then I leave it alone.

Geared more toward broadcast and streaming (nevertheless insights gained which can be applicable to other types of distribution like movies on physical media), there was a workshop recently having a session which covered:

Effect of different TV display technologies on HLG viewing (OLED vs. QLED)
Effect of different TV display technologies on PQ viewing (OLED vs. QLED)
Side-by-side native HDR vs. SDR to HDR converted material on consumer displays
Effect of the use (or not) of metadata

I hope this session eventually becomes publicly available either in document form or video. A setting up pic from the May event –

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by lgans316

In AVS, most owners are not movie watchers and sadly most of them are Ill informed when it comes to picture quality.

All too common mentality of, "Everything I watch on my screen should be a big, clean window with lots of pop."

[I DO BLU]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

lol Geoff, no ego boost from past posting about technical matters - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p#post18526501 nor Top Gun 2. If anything, except for a couple members like perhaps Agent Kay or gkolb, despite BTS pics, most marginalized the Top Gun: Maverick contributions by ignoring them shortly after the time (other than here, unknown to social media) the carrier got underway - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...y#post16930910

For the dopamine receptors (https://www.health.harvard.edu/mind-...ay-to-pleasure ) to be stimulated by ego boost, I reckon I need an agent, e.g. Vincent T. has I Do Blu and you have Staying Salty.


Alas, I’m only a guy with a cat - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post18978888
who rides bikes - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...a#post18822891
and enjoys educating - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post18713839
and learning, even in places where few or no one is actively listening - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...o#post20164143

Since I was mentioned I can only say

The oracle offers Neo a cookie - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by I DO BLU

Since I was mentioned I can only say The oracle offers Neo a cookie - YouTube

Don’t mind me, being a big fan of On Any Sunday, Friday night after the dinner I wanted to win the auction for the original show art painting of this (to the right) - https://stevemcqueencarshow.com/about-the-show/ ,

but some guy who owns 2 or more TVs (can you imagine anyone owning more than 1 TV?), outbid me for the item. He must be a multi-millionaire to splurge so much on consumer TVs.

[Lee A Stewart]

Samsung caught cheating in TV benchmarks, promises software update

Samsung has been caught cheating by designing its TVs to recognize and react to test patterns used by reviewers. The company promises to provide software updates to address the situation.

Reviewers, calibrators and certification bodies typically use a 10% window for HDR testing, which simply means that it takes up 10% of the screen. In this window multiple steps from black to white as well as a set of colors are measured. Samsung has designed its TVs to recognize this and other commonly used window sizes, after which the TV adjusts its picture output to make measurements appear more accurate than the picture really is. When using a non-standard window such as 9% (everything else equal), the cheating algorithm can be bypassed so the TV reveals its true colors.

This is deliberate cheating, an orchestrated effort to mislead reviewers.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1654235588

[unberechenbar]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Samsung caught cheating in TV benchmarks, promises software update



https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1654235588

Good to see someone calling them out on it.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Samsung caught cheating in TV benchmarks, promises software update



https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1654235588

Anyone buying Samsung anything in 2022, truly deserve what they get.

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hmmm. Getting seriously twitchy now the 75Z9J is down to £3600. If only there were more proper reviews and more than three fookin people who actually own one! Trawling through the AVS/AVF threads is utterly useless.

LCD TV in 2022? Sad…

[Farerb]

Does anyone know anything about SONY LED KD-85X85J? Is it recommended?

[Robert Zohn]

For it's price category I like Sony's 2021 85" X85J.

Sony's new 2022 X85K series is a very nice upgrade from the X85J series, but you can't beat the final closeout price, just $1,699 for the 85" X85J! I have both 85" X85 series in stock.

[Farerb]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

For it's price category I like Sony's 2021 85" X85J.

Sony's new 2022 X85K series is a very nice upgrade from the X85J series, but you can't beat the final closeout price, just $1,699 for the 85" X85J! I have both 85" X85 series in stock.

Thank you.
I'm considering buying it, but I might only be able to buy it in October.

[Robert Zohn]

Sony's 2021 X85J TVs will be sold out shortly.

[Robert Zohn]

Check out Robert Archer of CEPro's Podcast of the ‘Video Guys’ Discuss New Sony Projectors, Theater Setup Tips.

The "Video Guys" include Joel Silver of ISF, Jason Dustal of AVPro/Murideo, and me, Robert Zohn of Value Electronics.

‘Video Guys’ Discuss New Sony Projectors, Theater Setup Tips - YouTube

[I DO BLU]

OLEDS FATAL FLAW? IT ISN'T BURN IN! TECH THERAPY - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Busy times out and about in SoCal pour moi. From last weekend at -


(show theme celebrating the back in the day Oscar nominated movie On Any Sunday)

my fave display from there ^ introduced by calamity jean - https://www.instagram.com/accounts/l...p/CecuBNwr_vI/

to this weekend at CineGear in L.A.,
my fave display being from FSI -
https://twitter.com/FSImonitors/stat...16911973715972
^ which is an upgrade from Shane’s XM310K - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post18622791

Addendum:
Recently Shane became the Advanced Imaging Systems Creative Lead in the Office of the CTO of Dolby Laboratories

[lgans316]

Anyone knows if this is no longer an issue with QD-OLEDs?

This is slowly getting on my nerves.

Below is from Edge of Tomorrow 4K Dolby Vision iTunes - on this scene, ATV developer HUD is showing 28 Mbps which is reasonable.

I have noticed this with few other films including 4K discs and used to ignore but not any longer.

[Geoff D]

That’s OLED for you, WRGB panels anyway. Near black will always be its Achilles heel.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That’s OLED for you, WRGB panels anyway. Near black will always be its Achilles heel.

Actually I find vertical banding bothersome than this but off late this NBC overshoot is driving me a bit mad. YMMV

I read this problem is almost gone with QD-OLEDS and to be frank this is handled quite well in the Panasonic GZ1000 OLED.

I

[lgans316]

Conservative HDR peak brightness.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1655279478